lol, yeah, it might be ready, but not actually selling...

Well, it might be ready for betas but not ready to sell. I figure end of july like the mm came out. Honestly from what i hear around the forums, This esc might go unloved, because of the drag in producing this esc/setup. I just got a couple Quarks, Because i got tired of empty talk and stringing along. If these esc's work for me, I might not even think about the MMM.

Can't do much but wait it out.

One side note though: Is a Fegiao XL smooth can (8xl) under the MM warranty?

Yeah, people are getting tired of waiting and waiting and waiting (and waiting) for a product that is "coming soon". But, I think you'll find that the same people belly-aching about it will be the first ones in line to buy one. It's just making people irritable at CC, that's all. Of course, some will boycott the MMM out of sheer principle, but they will be the minority IMO.

right now i dont really give a crap. i would like them to be out next week so the bugs could be worked out by this time next year. maby a price drop also, my revo will remain a roller until i have the cash to get a system.....urgg stupid billz

I was planning on waiting for it, to put in my buggy. But like you said, I got "tired of waiting"... so i went with the MM. Waiting for it to get here too. :)

I made my decision based on having a gap in my finances now, so i got the quarks. If i am able to when they come out i'll get a MMM, but had to get something now

I know the feeling. I finally caved and bought the MM as a temporary solution. I need/want a more capable esc for the future.

I got the esc plate and Neu 1515 2.5d coming as well

Whats up guys--new to the forum and the brushless 8 scale as well. I have been checking out your site and all of its great info, and definately want to make my buggy brushless. I a buddy who sent Tim Mohr with castle a letter about the MMM, and he said that the esc is done, but the problem they are having is with the motor. He said they may decide to release just the esc and farm out the motor at this time. He said that by the time i was to get all my stuff running and tested that the esc should be on the market. Don't know how accurate this is--but thought some of you may be interested.:027:

Welcome to the forums!

That is good news! However, many here (myself included) are skeptical about any statement from Castle containing the term "soon". Soon to them apparently means years. Don't get me wrong, I like their stuff, but this wait is just rediculous!

Yup, Patrick said that just a bit over a month ago and there really hasn't been any updates since then. I'd be surprised to see it on the market in under a month now, considering it hasn't (AFAIK) gone to beta yet.

Sleeb

I like castle products.
I have got disappointed in them.
I not sure if I would buy one now.
They really have to have something to grab my attention.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the MMM. Heck, I'd be satisfied (for now) with a software fix for the MM so that I could run Neu motors.

The MM is a fine controller and does well on 4S, especially in a buggy. I'd track down a Lehner 1930 hi amp in about a 2000kv or so flavor to run with the MM. I doubt that the combo would leave you disappointed.

Heck yeah. About time! Never thought it would take them so long for that software upgrade... I beginn to doubt if they'll ever manage to fix that.




BTW, when was the first time they had the "coming soon" ad of the MMM on their site???:007:

I don't think we will see a software upgrade for the Mamba Max until sometime after the release of the Monster Max. No need to buy the Monster Max if your little Mamba will run the Neu motors just fine!

Oh gosh, you just might be right. I'd be glad with the MMM too, though. But when? WHEN??

They've been saying the same thing for over a year now................


Nothing like vaporware huh?!

Although I am hoping for the software fix for the MM, the business side of me tells me that they won't release it until some time after the MMM is released. I would imagine that there would be at least some percentage of potential customers who would take a pass on the MMM (for now) if the MM ran four pole motors.

I have seen some interest in the MMM system (including the motor) on other forums, but I think that many here are more interested in the esc side of things. I know that if my MM would run the Neu motors, I'd have all that I really need for now, until I move the 1/5 scale stuff, and it would take a while before I blew up all of my MM controllers and HAD to buy a MMM.

I hope Tekin would do it faster. I'm gonna buy whichever one is gonna come out first.

CC has talked about the MMM for easily way over a year. I was originally planning to wait for it for my buggy, but grew tired. I just went with the MM, and if it works out all right, then there will be no need for the MMM for me.

The only way I would buy the whole CC package (esc and motor) is if besides for running as well as a Neu or Lehner, the price was lower for both together, than a MM and Neu/Lehner.

Does anyone here live near to the CC head quaters? I think a little night-time recon mission is in order. A knowledge of alarm systems & door locks would come in handy....

LMFAO!! :005:

We could get Serum to put on his anteater outfit and run around, while Dafni dances on a table, that should give the guards enough to watch while the rest of us get in and out

What about getting a job there, then conducting some industrial espionage....

Hey guys I have not been following the thread, but heres an awesome update.

I was talking to CC today about my 1/18 BL because it was having problems, so I decided to ask about the MMM.


He explained how they are in the testing process and trying to find nice motors (2 pole) that are within budget. They were working out a deal with Neu, but the final price ended up being too high, and Mike the head of Neu was not looking to expand his company much larger.

They thought about feigao, but wanted a more quality motor. Apparently they found some great motors from a company that sells them at a good price, and are currently in testing. These motors are 2 pole sensorless, and they are aiming for the price range comparable to the HV-Maxx.


He explained how way back in the day when castle wanted to start making BL setups for cars, everyone said...Theres no way it would move, brushless isnt possible. Eventually after testing there were so many esc's and motors fried, to fill up a 50 gallon barrel! Now, obviously it has exploded in popularity. In the last year, the amount of sales has DOUBLED, puting CC at the top of the line for aircraft and car controllers.

All in all, it gives a good insight as to what the design and price is going to be. I hope that helped...I also got some nice specs on the MM i will post.
-Pat

I would like to know what this mystery BL motor supplier is, sounds very intrigueing. *goes to do thorough search for BL motor manufacturers*

I believe it was some overseas manufacturer...not sure. He mentioned a lot of brushless systems, he said there was one that was junk that was comparable to a feigao except with a foreign name. Apparently this company has the specs they are looking for.

redhatman, I don't find that to be good news at all. It looks like Castle is back peddling now. At first, they had us all in suspense with this MMM system. Then the word was that it was going to be a nice four poler similar to a Neu. Now we're hearing that they can't come up with a motor so they're going to sub it out to some foreign manufacturer.

If that's the case, who's gonna buy a MMM system at the price point of an HV Maxx system when they could buy a MM with a Feigao for around $200.

If Castle wants to break into the large scale market, perhaps they should concentrate on what they do well, and this is controllers. If the controller is ready, let's have it. I'll be quite PO'd if I've been waiting all of this time just so that they can stick a mediocre made in China motor in the box with the controller. We already have the Feigaos, with all of their problems and then there are the Align motors with the rotors that self destruct and shafts that snap.

Redhatman, thats what they been telling us for well over a year

Hey! Congrats on your new avatar Jr. Finally, my eyes will not go hay wire while looking at the old geezer..:)

Who says it's a made in china product Aangel? perhaps it's a German manufacturer. Who knows. I guess time will tell, it's not hard to judge the brand of motor once they launch it. my guess is they are aiming for segmented magnets. that's the only reason what makes the feigao motors less good.

I will chime in with my two cents on CC quality. I have purchased three MM ESCs. My first purchase was shortly after the product was released for sale to the public. I recently purchased two additional units. I have to say that I was a little disappointed. It appears that Castle has made a few trade-offs with regards to quality in an effort to meet demand and keep pricing low. Maybe its just minor stuff...but I noticed the quality of wire and the solder joints were not as good as earlier models. I hope the MMM doesn't follow that approach. BTW...I also have a few Mamba 25s and I noticed similar deficiencies there. Has anyone else seen this? What are your thoughts?

Count me in, i'll wash my socks for that special occasion..

I haven't noticed that SS. i had 3 mm 25 controllers, all where the same, got one when they where freshly launched and one of the latest models. can you be more precise on what changed?

More more note....
 

I wonder...has Monster Mike established enough of a following to R&D and market his own signature line of ESC? I know folks have talked but it seems to me that there is ample expertise here to atleast design a good product. The problem is getting it thru production and to market...

I can't speak for everyone, but I know I don't mind spending top dollar as long as I know I'm getting the best product.

I havent seen that but I sure can see what you are talking about, meaing I understand why that might happen. Castle's business has doubled in the last year, and they are most likely very busy, and would rather just produce them cheap and fast, then repair later down the road. Of course they probably don't plan on it, but they are probably aware of it.

Perhaps they found another manufacturer/assembler and it's more of a coincidence than a cost down solution.

It seems to me that the first series of MM had "better" quality of wire. You know the wet noodle stuff that Novak and Quark uses. I no longer have the older MM so I might be wrong. It just seems that when I opened up the box of my new MM escs, they felt cheap in comparison to what I remember from my first purchase. It might be me too. In the interim I had purchased the Quark and the HV Maxx and maybe I just got used to working with those units....however, I don't usually miss the details like that.

I guess it doesn't matter as long as the product performs as well as it always has.

I don't know about better wires and such, because I replace the stock wires with 12 gauge before I even install my MMs. I can say this tough, of the five mamba maxes that I do have, the very first two that I got when they were first released are the only ones that will run 5S. The other three that I got in the last few months won't do 5S.

That is very interesting AAngel. I guess CC just took more time on there products when they weren't as widely known...