Could it be a firmware / software issue- the newer MMs being deliberately incapable of 5s so people are less likely to cook them?...

All of my MMs are running the latest version of the firmware.

Not that then. There must be a difference in components used somewhere, but if some people bought the original models and they wouldnt do 5s either.... pass. Next question.

I think, like been mentioned, that they assemble them in house but out source the boards and got a better price on slightly lower quality

crazy i was trying to figure out what your avatar was, but then i noticed it was ghost rider. I actually bought and watched the movie last night as of 12 hours ago.

Killer movie huh? My sis did that with a cell phone cameraand her Email resize feature. I got one made with both ghostriders as well

i was told by a guy at my LHS that talks to castle a good bit, asked em about the MMM the guy at castle told him that the reason it isnt out yet is because they cat make the motor match the spedo and the weight of the truck. i dont know if there is any truth in that but its a possibility

Im thinking that means the system is over powered, and they're trying to find a motor that can tone it down a bit- must be really something special compared to an XL setup.... I still say all they need to do is reprogram one of their plane/boat speedos to have reverse & adjustable brakes, surely it cant be that hard can it?....

Overpowered?:032:

If that is the case, they should just release it and let me worry about toning it down. LOL

one time they were bragging about standing backflips, now they are worried?

There is no such thing as a system being overpowered...I doubt many companied are reluctant to release their product because it is just too good...doesn't happen that way...it's always the other way around.

DM

I dont necessarily mean 'overpowered', but a motor can only go so fast/draw so many amps before bad things happen- to the esc & the trucks driveline. Could be more to do with things like timing, power curves & stuff like that- getting the motor to behave how its supposed to.... Its all just guesses though unless Castle release a proper statement.

The mamba max will do standing back flips in a 1/10th. I know, I caught mine upside down in my lap the first time I nailed it (before adjusting slipper).

My MGT will do a standing backflip if I angle it right on the slope of the driveway. It's actually pretty cool. LOL

hahahah, here is my rc18 a few months ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZq2P76wz3I

Hey, that's was just like my MGT, only smaller. LOL

I got an associated T4 that with a 3700 2s pack (really light) that across the street the yard slopes off the sidewalk and i can execute a backflip off that, to the slope. Its mamba 4600 powered and got a 23 tooth pinion

I have an e-maxx that will do standing backflips with an mm and a hacker b50 10xl on 12 nimh cells with 17/65 gearing. it still goes faster than stock to boot. runtimes are awsome.

Anymore news on the MMM?:002:

As always, it's "coming soon". Everything else is speculation at this point.

come on castle. you are holding my BL revo project back......i dont wanna stray from such an awesome company......

Well, if you're gonna run no more than 14 cells/4s lipo and an LMT or Feigao motor, why not use the MM?

if ur talkin to me, the only reason i havent dont that is because i am somewhat new to this Bl market. i figure if the max rateing is 12 cells, why should i risk my investment and put more power to it. unless the warranty will cover those 2 extra cells or the 4 cell lipo. ...

It will handle 14 cells fine, just don't forget the ubec. If castle finds out, it will void the warranty. I run 5s in mine for a long time before going to quark. I'm not telling anyone to run 5s, just giving my experience

thats the thing, knowing my luck they would find out. and it would prolly void the warranty if it was on a MT also ....... just my luck to fry it then they find out the voltage

I was also planning on waiting for the MMM. But finally decided to go with the MM from everyone telling me to.... and I didn't regret it. It works great on 4s with a UBEC. I am not scared any more of possibly frying it. I think it will run strong for me for a long while.

it is a very solid esc, I still run mine in 1/10 apps. Just needed something stronger and more efficient that MM in the MT and 4pole motor area

thanks RC for the reassurance, it seems that u were in the same boai as i.

and crazy jr what do you meen by a solid ESC? and what is a 4 pole motor

if out of warranty they will just charge you $50 to repair it.

I mean its a great esc, always does great when pluged in and despite some programming problems (v2.23 castle link software) it has never let me down

what type of programming problems? as i strated before i am a total noob to this Bl setup. and does the v2.23 castle link come with the ESC?

i mentioned this to one of the guys at my LHS and he tod me that i would be looking at some major over heating problems, is this true and could it be fixed with a fan of some sort? i do have a rather large fan out of a powersupply but it is prolly to big, maby some 40mm style ones.

Don't listen to anyone telling you about how to run brushless, unless you are sure that they know what they are talking about. The LHS is usually the worst place to get brushless advise, especially when it comes to large scale.

The Mamba Max is a good controller. Just don't try to make it do what it doesn't want to. Don't go over 4S lipo. Some will do 5S, but that is pushing it. Stick with two pole motors. The MM doesn't like four pole motors.

If it starts to run a bit hotter than you'd like, try a fan. Fans are good for dropping the temps a bit, but are not a fix or overgearing situations.

thanks AAngel, if you dont mind could you explane the diffrence in 2 pole and 4 pole motors, i would likt to run a feagio 10XL, would that b ok for the MM?

A 2 pole motor has one norht pole & one south pole on the rotor magnet, whilst a 4 pole has 2 norths & 2 souths, IE: north-south-north-south. This means the esc has to work twice has hard to make the motor rotate, but I believe this equals a much smoother motor & less cogging, or something to that effect. The programming is different for a motor with more poles since the esc has to do extra work to get it to rotate, and since the MM motors are all 2 pole jobbies, the MM esc doesnt like 4 pole motors. Castle is ment to be releasing a programming fix for this issue but it is unlikely to happen until after the MMM is for sale, other wise people could run the brilliant Neu motors on the MM, so wouldnt need the MMM unless they wanted an insanely powerful/fast system.

thanks. i am still going to have to save my pennies to get a system. but all of this positive ressurance i am getting from you guys is exxalent. makes me rethink the parts list i had made up. you did however mention cogging, would i run into this problem with 12or 14 sanyo 2400 nicd cells? i know i know i need to have nimh but these were a gift a while back but i didnt have any thing to put them on.

The Feigao is a two pole motor and running the MM with the 10XL on 4S lipo, won't give you the fastest setup, but it will be dependable and torquey. It would do nicely in a monster truck with big tires on it.

cogging isnt so much to do with powersource, more about gearing & running at quite low speed, since the esc has trouble 'knowing' where the rotor is.Ebay?:005:

man i dont want to put nice batteries on fleabay.....and they should be fine until i go to lipo

that threas, smoke no fire(yet), has now got me worried. if i do the MM would i run the risk of that happening?