I almost bought one of the F1 Yankee kits. I have the F201 from Tamiya that is tricked out to the max with after market goodies. I have never heard of Avioracing, do you have any links and info if they are still being made? I think 1/7 scale would be even nicer then the 1/8 scale.

I'm sorry I know it's off topics, but to answer lutach

It was made a compagny called, "Scientific France"

I have found this in my archive (french RC magazine that date back 1995 ...), I'm sorry the first page of the review is missing

http://pix.nofrag.com/9/c/f/258e9327...ab86c53ftt.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/8/6/8/ba09b3ed...00e67b1btt.jpg

i've got friends that follow nascar and i just dont get it. F1 i could get into, i wish it were more televised

Mister-T thanks man. I remember when I saw a Yankee servo in ebay and I lucked out on it. I think those servos are sweet. I will be keeping this thread off topic until the MMM comes out :lol:. Thanks again.

Huuh???
 

Well F-1 is surely unique and the drivers have to have a great deal of skill due to the open wheel racing. It is hard to get through a race because if you just touch another vehicle the day is overwith. In NASCAR there is alot more give to the vehicles when it comes to bumpin and grinding. Who wants to put a car on the track worth 1 million $$$$$$$ and have it trashed in 1 second with no chance to recover? The F-1 vehicle is so precise that if you get one scratch on it your done for. The cars are truly a work of art just like a funny car or rail dragster, but not very good for head to head racing.

I am not a fan of the NASCAE short tracks, but racing on the 2 to 2 1/2 mile circuits is pretty intense. When you can run flat out with your foot to the foor at 220 MPH and keep cruising even through the turns that is just way cool. If you have ever driven a vehicle on Daytona, or the Lowes Motor Speedway in Charlotte you will see how cool that can be. If you go to a NASCAR race you can watch the race from anywhere in the track. If you go to an F-1 race there is no place to watch the entire race except from the easy chair watching your TV. I've been to both and frankly watching F-1 is frankly a real let down. Goin to a NASCAR race is so much more fun.:lol::lol::lol:

Watching F1 from the chopper camera shots it amazing. The speed at which they accelerate and corner defies the laws of physics.

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Right you are, hence the only way to truly enjoy F-1 is to be seated comfortably in your easy chair at home watching it on the big screen. Not that there is anything wrong with that:lol:! ! ! ! ! BUT I do enjoy going to the track and watching at least one or two races a year, and F-1 racing just cannot provide that for us. There are other events that do like motocross, monster truck, drag racing, and even Xgames. You just cannot watch road racing from the stands and really enjoy it.:lol::yes::whistle:

Sports car racing is fun to watch. I sure hope the famous Group C cars would come back.

No you just need to position your self near one of the big screens at the track :yipi:.

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Thats my point. If you cannot sit right next to the big screen and still be somewhat comfortable your screwed. I have tried it several times both in the states and overseas and the feel of F-1 racing is always the same. There is no real comfort zone for watching the race unless you are in a suite with the big screen in front of you. Don't get me wrong I like F-1 as well, but it is just to difficult to actually see the race from the track. That is just the nature of road racing. I have been to dozens of NASCAR events and thr focus of the track owners has always been to try and set up the facilities so that a large % of the fans can see what is going on over the entire track no matter where they sit. Plus at most of the tracks when you get hungry there is no shortage of food stands near by to fee your face, choke down a beer, or even purchase fanatic gear. That is why the sport has become so darned popular.

You have apoint. F1 is the same, now with all the rules, but the last time I watched F1 it was still exciting. They should bring back the turbo charged engines. I would love to see a F1 go 300mph. I think Nelson Piquet had the fastest speed of over 220mph. I'm not 100% sure, I was just a kid in Brasil going nuts everytime I watched F1.

Good Stuff.
 

I used to be a big watcher of F-1 in my younger years, but with the advances of the NASCAR as a sport I made the change back in 1990. Even the NASCAR officials have put restrictor plates on every car for the big track races at tracks like Daytona, Charlotte, and Talladega to limit their speeds for safety reasons. Without the restrictor plates these cars will now run into the 230 MPH range on the 2.5 mile banked oval tracks. If you have ever driven over 150 mph or more you can appreciate that running in traffic over 200 mph is phsycotic, but hugely entertaining. Dale E was the most revered driver on the NASCAR circuit. While racing at Daytona a few years back He hit the wall in the 3rd turn on the last lap going about 200 mph and never recovered. He died in like 2001 and still today his offical gear outsells every other driver. You should try going to just one race with a few friends. We usually stay at the track in an RV for the weekend and party every night after the Bush and Nextel Cup races. We always spend a little time in the garage area, and the stunt shows are getting crazy as well. The whole event is a blast.

Let the cars go 230-300, overcoming (ok, battling) the fear of death to go as fast as possible is what made drivers heros. Keep up the safety improvements but let the cars go. Let the pit guys strive for more power, traction, and better drivers. Regulate the lower classes to keep them affordable but let the big dogs RUN!

I personally love road courses, gas, brakes, turn left, turn right, shift, all that good stuff. And give me lots of in-car camera with telemitry and radio chat, less announcers.

The problem is how do you survive an acident at those sorts of speeds. There will always be accidents and the forces at those speeds even with a glancing blow to the wall are enough to rip the car to peices. Say you loose only a third of your speed in a glancing hit on the wall, that's still 100mph when you are doing 300mph. Even with perfect safety features you are still loosing 100mph in an instant.

I don't know if you get to see the NASCAR racing down under:lol:, but that is why these kinds of racing machines are so important to the automobile industry:yes:. They are trying a lot of new things and breaking ground on new safety inovations that are being put into the every day automobiles that we drive:rules:. They have been calling it the car of tomorrow because the changes were brought into the sport gradually over the last 24 months, but now it is in full swing for the 2008 season:yipi:. These cars are built to take those kinds of speeds in an accident, and even help prevent major issues from becomming a huge catastrophy.:gasp: So do we want to see 230 mph, of course we do. That is just the nature of racing. :party::whistle:

The faster a race car driver drives the more attention he pays and the car is basically glued to the ground with so much down force. I remember when I told my grandfather my kart wasn't fast enough. Well the old guy came to the US and bought a small turbo (He said it was made for Harley) and the mechanic found a way to add it to my kart and let me tell you, it was fantastic to race a 125CC against the big dogs and we had to add a roll cage after I rolled a few times. With the higher speeds one would have to come out with new technologies to keep the cars safer and afterwards that technology would be used in our overweight unsafe road cars. Group C was safe and to see some cars go over 250mph was just amazing.

nascar announcer: he just made a beuatiful left turn and he's comin' up to a doozy of a left, after that left 3 which is real fast today, only left 4 is faster, :lol:

Wow this has gone a bit OT since last time I saw it... I guess it cant really stay on topic for 31p.

I do have a Q related to the MMM though. I know lipolys are at 4.2V/cell at full charge, and 4.2V is also their CV charge voltage. I think Life cells are 3.6V charge voltage, does this mean that they are 3.6V at full charge? If you want to know what this has to do with anything (or the MMM in particular) being a bit more of a basher at heart, I'm thinking of upgrading my battery systems to A123 cells soon, and was thinking of going from 6s lipo to 7s A123 in my revo... since 6*4.2 = 7*3.6 I'm kind of assuming the MMM should handle it fine... lol the questions kinda hidden in that rant up there... :P

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Well we had to find something to talk about while waiting for the MMM:oh:. One can only say so many times that they wish the MMM was here:yes:. Hopefully it will be released soon and you will have the specs that you need to make that decision.:lol: Until then anything is pretty much speculation and guess work.:eyes:

The quark 125B is rated for 6s (apparently it doesn't work properly for some people, but it has worked well for me), and zeropointbug has used his on 7s A123's. He did have some extra caps on it, so maybe that helped a bit, not sure.

7s A123 has the same unloaded voltage as 6s LiPo but I hear A123 drop more voltage under load so it should be a little easier on the ESC if it is truly 6s capable.

Back on topic, I am a F1 fan too and don't really get nascar, ok from a road track like monaco or Phoenix you can only see a few corners but with nascar its the same even if you can see the whole track, most F1 tracks dont have buildings either side of the street, hockenheim in germany is quite wooded and also doesnt offer a good view but most of the tracks are out in the open and you can see quite a lot of the trackfrom a grandstand. I've never seen F1 in person as tickets are very expensive but I have seen groupC, and sportscar racing at silverstone the English F1 track and from the grandstand at stowe corner you can see about half the track and a big screen for the other half and there is 2 other positions that you can see about a third of the track from, you can probably view of more corners in 1 race than the entire season of nascar.

I lament all the restrictions they put in F1 especially the underfloor aerodynamics that are a lot less affected by the car in front than wings are, which hampers overtaking. But in this litigious society we live in it is needed for the drivers and spectators safety, shame as when F1 started drivers wore leather helmets and had no seatbelts, spectators had no crash barriers or catch fences and there was no shortage of either, people accepted the risk to play there part in racing at the highest level.

I have long thought there should be a TV only unlimited computer driven unmanned class with only 1 rule which is a maximum car width so there can still be overtaking, get the squishy diver and trackside spectators out so there are no safety concerns, then release the hounds! Think you can get a 10,000hp methonol burning V8 to stay together for 200 miles? Go for it. Want a turbocharged 30litre diesel giving 10,000lb/ft? No problemo. Want a 1500hp turboed F1 engine in a 100kg car? Your welcome to get it a light as you can. Fan assisted underfloor aerodynamics giving 5G whilst stationary, good idea. Pop up variable camber wings for 300mph top speed and 20G cornering that would kill a driver instantly, that will be a sight to see. Lets see what the best creative minds can do with the pinnacle of modern technology, not how can you best optimise a car to a set of rules.

Did anyone notice in rcgroups that patrick's pumped out the prices for the MMM with a "don't quote me" - apparently street price 180...

Last post from Patrick, so the first run is close. Maybe

Time to get back to the topic. Pictures are available. :yipi::yipi::yipi:. http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/show...=1#post2327885 I bfinally beat everyone and got secod post :yipi::yipi:.

Monster Mike,

Patrick Del Castillo wants to join your forum.

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Just a beautiful site. That is awesome. Thank you Patrick. Please post something is RC-Monster's forum as well.

Edit: After the 6S Monster is done, will you offer a 12S as well like you said in rcgroups?

I'd like to, but I applied for a password on RC-Monster and never got one. I guess they didn't believe I was who I said I was...

Patrick

Here are the pics... Weird design - no exposed heatsink - those are 6.5mm bullets for 10ga wire

Wow! I didn't expect that....pretty cool! I imagine it'll look better once the stickers are applied to add that Mamba touch to the controller...but finally! The 6.5mm solder buckets/plugs are a great idea too.

I think they intend you to use the 6.5mm castle plugs which I hope they supply...

yes they supply them:
http://www.castlecreations.com/products/ccbullet.html

CC Bullet 6.5mm CC Bullets - Set of 3 each female and male 6.5mm connectors
$5.24

Oh right...yeah, that'd make sense. Apparently their connectors are a LOT more reliable than normal bullets, so hopefully there won't be any issues with dodgy motor connections.

According to my admin panel, Patrick IS a member - joined on 03/17/08 and shows as a registered member - username Pdelcast

I am thinking his password is stuck in a spam filter or something. :)

I emailed Patrick his new password. :)

Wow, this is awesome news about the MMM!! :party: Just in time for my birthday at the beginning of July and a full summer to test it!! :yipi:

**Mr Burns voice**

Excellent....

You are the man Mike.

is this the new expected eta?

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That controller looks very nice. They did a good job on the case. If it works as good as it looks, this thing is going to be the new staple of our hobby for speed control. Great looking job CC. Way to go. Now if we can only get it on the shelves and released to the people.:lol:

No mamba green!?!?!?!?!

Dang it, now I have to redecorate everything! :na:

Finally.
 

Finally a new thread has been started "SNEAK PEAK" MMM Check it out.

No, I don't think there has been an ETA yet. I was just thinking that since there are already official pictures out and the mold has been received by CC (from what I've been told), the release can't be too far away. So right now, I am only assuming that it will be out by the time I mentioned (July/summer). :party: