What I don't understand is.....
Yea you can get a wide range of speed out of the 2200 KV motor. But it requires that you buy the proper batteries, pinion etc..

If you already have batteries and pinions then you may want to buy a motor with a KV that matches your need. (3s guys want something totally different then 6s guys).

Why would Castle rather us buy new battery packs at 200.00 a peice rather then buy a new motor with proper KV from them.

Me thinks they bought stock in Lipo suppliers!!!!

Highflier

Yeah, that is an annoyance I must admit, and changing the voltage/gearing will result in a motor spinning way outside its optimum efficiency range, which for the is somewhere around 35,000rpms. The stock motor will be great on 4s, fast on 5s, but probably too much on 6s to stay cool during a long run/race/bash session. I dunno, but Im sure Castle had their reasons (price point to reach and such).

No point in buying the MMM if you only want to run 3S anyhow. A regular MM will handle that fine.

Guys, I'd quit complaining if I were you. I'd say we're all lucky to have a manufacturer actually producing such a system for us at the price point they've stated. There currently is no other system on the market that should perform this way for even 1 1/2 times the price. Also, with the ability to buy the ESC separate from the motor, you guys can buy any Neu you want to run with it.

I just don't see the point to complaining about it. There will always be new products being introduced to the market. If they don't fit your specific requirements, simply don't buy it...but please don't bitch about it.

I'm sure you didn't mean to be negative in your post, and I'm not attacking you highflier, but comments like this just erk me the wrong way:
They dont want you to go buy new battery packs, they want you to buy their speed controller, and a motor that suites your needs.

They will come out with different kv motors in a later day (Just like they did with the mamba max and mamba 25).
You DONT have to buy their 2200kv motor. It is just the first one they will sell.
They believe it to have the widest capability. and will release it first.

Joe and the boys at Castle are not happy about the motor situation either. They want more options just like we do. I have no idea why they can only do one... it makes no sense at all.


I don't want a 1515 size motor period... I would rather have a 1512 :)

Hopefully it won't take long to come out with more sizes and winds once the ball gets rolling.

BTW, don't expect anything in March... sounds to me like the real date is mid-April. Also, the ESCs aren't in production yet so don't look for and early release of them either. (before combos, motors...)

But... it's coming :nod:

:gasp: DONT EVER SAY THAT! Dont EVER say that again:neutral::neutral:
hehe

Gee... I'm shocked.:whistle:

What's up with that GD? Sounds like you know something CC isn't letting on to. Are you serious that the MMM probably won't be available until April? If so, how do you know that?

It is Feb 21st...it'd be a miracle if they could manufacture, QA, package, and distribute by the end of March...that only leaves about 37 days to get all that done. I am not saying that it is impossible...just very unlikely. Hope for the best...prepare for the worst.

They're getting the packaging produced right now (out of house)...for all we know, they could have a huge delivery of boxes and manuals for it arrive tomorrow. We know the controller is finished too...though beta testing is an unknown. Don't condemn them yet...after all the flak Castle have had for missing deadlines, I very much doubt that Joe would be saying March unless he thought they had a pretty good chance of meeting that deadline.

But then again...do you have some kind of inside scoop, GD?

Repeatedly eluding to the things that are "out of our control" is the tip that there is a possible slip on the horizon IMO. I do consumer product development project management for a living and that’s a sure fire bet that there is something (and all it takes is one little thing to delay it all) that has a high likely hood of slipping or has already slipped and they are in fire drill mode trying to right the problem and still pull off the March date.

Not saying that this is the case as I know nothing about what is actually happening, but that’s what it sounds like to me.


I hope they do pull off the March date as it would give me just enough time to get my truggy ready in time for the spring racing season. It starts April 13th and it would be nice to have the final setup, installed and tested for a week before the season starts, rather than trying to change it all over sometime in the middle. I have been holding off buying another speed controll anticpating the MMM, but its sounding like I might have to borrow a Quark from another truck and get it ready to go. Oh well I have 4-5 weeks before I have to make that call. Hopefully CC has some more definitive info by then.

Keep plugging Guys!!! Whenever it gets here I'll still be planning to get my hands on one as soon as its released! It sounds like it very close whether its march or April, at least its in the home stretch.


Is there some sort of Pre-Order waiting list we can get on?

One more question... Is the motor going to be a smooth can or a finned can? I'm personally hoping for the smooth can because it fits in more places.

I beg your pardon?!

I'd say it would be a smooth can too for that reason. Plus all their other motors are smooth can. You can always slap a heat sink on even though it wouldn't be as efficient.