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skellyo 03.06.2009 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by E-Maxx Sweden (Post 267473)
skellyo, I think people will pay if it is of good quality, if it helps their driveline. We need part's that can handle power of 2200KV with 6s LiPo.

I have 2 E-Maxx with 2200kv and Novak 6.5 with alum chassi myself.

just my 2 cents
I have no doubt that people will pay for it. However, I think it won't sell as well to folks with stock chassis E-Maxx's and E-Revos as it will to folks with buggies and truggies. With Mike being as busy as he is, he's likely going to concentrate on what will sell best for him (what has the most demand). I doubt that's going to be folks wanting slipperentials for their stock plastic chassis on an E-Maxx or E-Revo.

You do mention that you have an aluminum chassis...FLM or GMaxx? I'd bet that Mike will have something available for the FLM or GMaxx chassis well before anything to bolt onto the stock plastic chassis.

Arct1k 03.06.2009 12:28 PM
Mike has a G3R :) So i know its on the cards...

E-Maxx Sweden 03.06.2009 12:38 PM
I have the FLM and KERSHAW DESIGNS New E-Maxx HGC Chassis :-)

My thread: http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?t=444391

E-Revonut 03.06.2009 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 267458)
It's not that easy Jerry. The way the driveline is positioned at the center of the diff, you really have to lower the center diff a lot in a vehicle that was originally designed for a tranny. In most vehicles, this is no trivial task. It would take an awful lot of work on Mike's part to make it an easy fit all of the various vehicles. I imagine his primary goal is to make it an easy drop-in for buggies and truggies first, then migrate to other vehicles.

You also have to consider that most folks running an E-Revo or E-Maxx with the stock plastic chassis are not going to be willing to buy a $130 slipperential and a mount that may run in the $75-100 range. Guys that do will certainly be in the minority, but with that in mind, I've got to think that providing mounts for the plastic chassis of those vehicles isn't high on Mike's priority list.
I think most memebers of this forum meet the requirements for that "minority"! I would shell out the money if a mount can be made to work on my E-revo! My "brushless ready" transmission is on it's way out!

E-Maxx Sweden 03.06.2009 06:12 PM
It is both frustrating and expensive in the long run to buy new parts that do not hold up with the power of 2200kv and like. Therefore, I think it is a sensible investment if you see it in the long term.

just my two cents

skellyo 03.06.2009 08:26 PM
Here's something else to think about with the E-Revo and E-Maxx...
Unless Mike comes up with some trick design for them using more than just a diff, gearing is going to be a pain in the butt if the stock diffs are used. Even if his slipperential comes with something like a 51T spur, using a 10T pinion on 4S stills gears the truck for ~40mph. So if someone wanted to gear for about 45-50mph on 6S, it's just not possible with the stock diffs. Just some food for thought.

What's_nitro? 03.06.2009 08:28 PM
They could use a slower motor..... :neutral:

skellyo 03.06.2009 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 267589)
They could use a slower motor..... :neutral:
That's true. But I do believe most folks looking for this kind of drop-in E-Revo solution are already running a 2200kv MMM combo.

JERRY2KONE 03.06.2009 09:04 PM
Always right.
 
One of life's little lessons is knowing that trying to be right all the time is a wasted battle. Driving your point home is not going to help anyone, if they want to try or do something that you do not agree with they are going to do it wheather you like it or not. The statement was made that this is going to end up as a universal unit. Why would you want to argue about wheather or not it will work or not work for someone elses vehicle on his forum. This forum sells parts to make a living. Why don't we let Mike wade through those questions as to wheather his Patent pending item will work for someone or not????

Arct1k 03.06.2009 09:11 PM
Well i chatted to him today and as mike has a grevo - its coming...

skellyo 03.06.2009 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 267600)
One of life's little lessons is knowing that trying to be right all the time is a wasted battle. Driving your point home is not going to help anyone, if they want to try or do something that you do not agree with they are going to do it wheather you like it or not. The statement was made that this is going to end up as a universal unit. Why would you want to argue about wheather or not it will work or not work for someone elses vehicle on his forum. This forum sells parts to make a living. Why don't we let Mike wade through those questions as to wheather his Patent pending item will work for someone or not????
I don't disagree with any of the points being made on here. If Mike makes special mounts for each of these vehicles, that's great for anyone using one of them. However, a slipperential by itself is not a direct replacement for a tranny on an E-Maxx or E-Revo. My impressions were that some folks believe it would bolt right up to their E-Maxx or E-Revo without needing a vehicle specific mount and that's just simply not the case.

The post I made about gearing with a 2200kv motor is something for anyone to take into consideration when thinking about going with a center diff in a vehicle that originally had a tranny to aid in gear reduction. I have a center diff E-Maxx with a RCM mount and have that problem myself with gearing and I have 13:43 diffs. The stock diffs on an E-Revo or E-Maxx will only exacerbate the issue of having to go to very small pinions when trying to gear down.

JERRY2KONE 03.06.2009 09:33 PM
Yes
 
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Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 267614)
I don't disagree with any of the points being made on here. If Mike makes special mounts for each of these vehicles, that's great for anyone using one of them. However, a slipperential by itself is not a direct replacement for a tranny on an E-Maxx or E-Revo. My impressions were that some folks believe it would bolt right up to their E-Maxx or E-Revo without needing a vehicle specific mount and that's just simply not the case.

The post I made about gearing with a 2200kv motor is something for anyone to take into consideration when thinking about going with a center diff in a vehicle that originally had a tranny to aid in gear reduction. I have a center diff E-Maxx with a RCM mount and have that problem myself with gearing and I have 13:43 diffs. The stock diffs on an E-Revo or E-Maxx will only exacerbate the issue of having to go to very small pinions when trying to gear down.
Yes and everyone knows that once you upgrade your system to improve the power output that the stock diffs just will not hold up no matter what the upgrade is. This is not new info for anyone on RCM.

E-Maxx Sweden 03.06.2009 09:47 PM
Thats why we use UE diff or Hardened Differential and Pinion - From Hot Bodies Lightning PRO diff :-)

alangsam 03.06.2009 09:50 PM
Look at this from a business perspective
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 267478)
I have no doubt that people will pay for it. However, I think it won't sell as well to folks with stock chassis E-Maxx's and E-Revos as it will to folks with buggies and truggies. With Mike being as busy as he is, he's likely going to concentrate on what will sell best for him (what has the most demand). I doubt that's going to be folks wanting slipperentials for their stock plastic chassis on an E-Maxx or E-Revo.

You do mention that you have an aluminum chassis...FLM or GMaxx? I'd bet that Mike will have something available for the FLM or GMaxx chassis well before anything to bolt onto the stock plastic chassis.
If Mike is in business to sell as much of the slipperentials as he can then there are a LOT more E-maxx's and E-revos out there than FLM chassis or GMAxx;s. Maybe a 1000 to 1 ratio? Mikes a smart guy and will figure it out.

Bigdumredneck 03.08.2009 03:31 PM
Any chance of a "sneek peek" since its almost ready to be released?:intello:


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