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Jahay 09.17.2010 07:53 PM

that is fair enough! you know what you like, and i know exactly what you mean! the flux is a lot more fun being a ballistic and hard to control sort of truck... keep us posted

Freezebyte 09.17.2010 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 380551)
that is fair enough! you know what you like, and i know exactly what you mean! the flux is a lot more fun being a ballistic and hard to control sort of truck... keep us posted



I really don't like the XL conversion due to the fact that it makes it much harder to control the truck in the air and wheelies are hard to do and maintain. The wider wheel stance also makes crashes alot harder on the truck itself due to the increased leverage which resulted in me breaking the rear linkage today. And the truck doesn't recover as well from crashes and poor landings with the wider wheelbase, its less forgiving.

I basically miss the near out of control feeling the stock Flux has. I just got done taking off all the XL conversion parts tonight and im gonna go drive it tomorroo and see what I think



http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...brokeagain.jpg


http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...te2/basics.jpg

thzero 09.17.2010 10:45 PM

I would say that the arm could have broken in a X/Flux just as easily and really has little to do with the extended axles.

Go figure that wheelies are harder, you have a longer chassis which means that it is going to take more force to rotate the truck as the weight at the front has been moved further away from the pivot point. Pretty easy physics experiment to reproduce.

But you gotta do what you gotta do to have fun with it.

Btw is tomorroo related to a kangaroo?

josh9mille 09.18.2010 02:27 AM

Isnt that most of the reason people convert to XL is to help keep the front end down? I really dont think you can compain about not being able to wheelie or correct in-air antics untill you run at least 5s. The 4s you are running is barely enough on a standard flux, let alone an XL. Also if you are using punch control it greatly reduces the ability to correct in the air. Not sure if you are using punch control or not but its just an FYI

Nard Cox 09.18.2010 05:57 AM

I can still do standing backflips on 4S with my XL conversion, driving till topspeed on the rear wheels is also no problem. In the air I like it more than the normal Flux size, it's more stable. I hardly ever need to adjust the car while airborne and when I have to it's just a sqeeze away.

If you decide to go back to stock Flux length buy the TCS conversion, cheap and I've only read good things about it.

Nard Cox 09.18.2010 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 378801)
UPDATE: Steering mod and test run damage

How sure are you that your steering mod works??

I'm currently rebuilding my Flux from scratch so I wanted to try your mod on my stock parts. But when I turned to the maximum I saw the following:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_oXx8nzDDQME/TJ...2/P1070376.JPG
So there is actually room left before they will make contact.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_oXx8nzDDQME/TJ...2/P1070377.JPG
You didn't shave this which makes contact.

I remembered I saved the steering mod in my bookmarks so I dug it out:

Savage Steering Mod
Looking at those pics you need to be shaving a heck of a lot more than you did. So unless RPM parts differ from stock you didn't increase steering, you only weaked the part by a very small amount ;)

Muggydude 09.18.2010 12:30 PM

While doing the steering mod i did indeed shave that part off along with some other parts on the carrier. I have a lot of steering!

Freezebyte 09.18.2010 12:45 PM

I thought about it but I didn't wanna compromise the strength of the upright carrier and making it easier to break. If I want more steering, i'll sell the Flux and buy a truggy

Freezebyte 09.18.2010 03:18 PM

Well just got back having a BLAST with "Frostbyte II" without the XL conversion. I was amazed at the difference. With FB2 back in stock form, wheelies were now simply on demand as much as I wanted, so much so that I forgotten how easy it to flip it on its lid, the XL conversion definitely cuts down wheelies alot, under 4s power anyway. I now also had the ability to control my truck in the air alot quicker then with the XL conversion. I was now easily able to do backflips for all the kids in the park that were running from the birthday party and skate park to watch my truck in action. To bad I didn't have my camera to record my jumps, backflips and shit loads of crashes, but I was just too busy having fun with my truck at long last and watching little kids go "Whooooaaaaa!" as my truck did wheelies in the dirt, jumped around and did speed runs, not to mention my numerous crashes and bad landings which only resulted in breaking the front bumper support strut, thats it!

I also recieved my Duratrax temp gun this morning so I was checking the motor at random times. I never saw the temp go above 48c and the MMM fan was sometimes running, sometimes it wasn't. The XL conversion definitely puts more of a load on the motor on the stock 20/44 gearing.

That being said, i've got some major cleaning up to do as it rained last night so I got FB2 a wee bit dirty but I had a blast all the same. Now its just a matter of if I wanna jump up to 6s with the XL conversion kit or just leave it in stock chassis form and do a new body. Needless to say, alot more driving and having fun is needed!



http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m.../dirtyflux.jpg


http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...dirtyflux2.jpg

Arct1k 09.18.2010 03:21 PM

LMK if you want to hand off the axle extenders :)

JThiessen 09.18.2010 04:23 PM

NOW it looks right....dont clean it man!

I am in complete agreement with you on the effects of the XL conversion. I'd say now you should get a pair of 3S packs, and run it with those too. I think you will like it. You dont have to run it on those all the time, but I have found that I rarely run mine on 4S anymore. Of course I did just have the ESC go up in flames........:whistle:

88gtanotchback 09.18.2010 04:54 PM

does this mean the FLM chassis is for sale? lol

Freezebyte 09.18.2010 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 380630)
NOW it looks right....dont clean it man!

Like hell I ain't cleaning it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 88gtanotchback (Post 380634)
does this mean the FLM chassis is for sale? lol

Dunno, I need to do further driving and testing before I make my decision.

Muggydude 09.18.2010 08:02 PM

Well if you keep it stock wheelbase, get some TCS TVPS! $20 is a killer price, and I love mine. I would keep it un-XL even if you go to 6s or 5s

josh9mille 09.18.2010 08:10 PM

cleaning is highly overrated lol. I agree get 2 3s packs and then you can experiment between 5s and 6s. I think you will be very happy with 5s myself.


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