Beta testing might be taking some other few months( 2 years). I hope I'm atleast 90% wrong.
That's not soooo good of an update, sorry to say this, though.

You gotta think positive! I know I'm positive it won't be ready until 2010. :smile:

It's basically like they started all over, "Now, we are close to being ready to beta the new design." Chances are it wont come out until another few years. What a disappointment.

come on, maybe 2009. :lol: thats why I would like a real update with specs. By now I really think I have to actually be able to see a working unit to really get my hopes up on anything from castle.

The way it looks now, Tekin, Novak and probably even Traxxas will have something out before them.

I think Traxxas will launch something impressive pretty soon..

If I was a betting man, I would put money on Tekin hitting the market first.

Hitting the market first?... or just hitting the market period?

I say hitting the market period. I've lost all hope for a MMM

Me too. :cry: I was hoping to run this in my 1/8 buggy, but settled on the MM which is running great BTW. Now I am hoping to use the MMM in my Revo and truggy, but I have a feeling that won't be happening either... time to look closer at the MGM, unless Tekin or Traxxas picks it up a little.

I still like the Quark despite the shortcomings...

Yeah I've heard great things about it and actually i've yet to run it but i hope its as silky smooth as people say, it'll be pushing a neu motor on 5s in an extremely heavy savage, I hope it lives up to the hype.

The first thing you'll notice is that it gets warm. That's why people do the internal mod and then add more heatsink area. Once you do that, it's fine. Which Neu are you running with that 5s?

And yes, the Quark is silky smooth at all times. Makes the MM seem jerky by comparison.

I believe its a 1515/1y but i'm not too sure as its completely up to Mike and what he thinks will work best in the sav. he's converting for me. Here it is. http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...?t=7916&page=2

Can't wait to prove you all wrong...

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....thanks, xmas is coming....:lol:


will it do 6s for sure???

We can't wait either.... Thats why everyone is buying something else already.

At this point I'd love it if you would prove us wrong.

PLEASE!!! prove us wrong

...i have waited this long...I can wait some more...I will stick with Castle and the Mamba...besides, i have grown to like the green :D

..I am waiting not to be proven wrong, but waiting to be proven RIGHT ;) Hows that for a sucky post :angel:

I'm betting on Traxxas. Hear me out. With castle and tekin, claiming thier stuff will be out soon, Traxxas has supposedly been testing the next step for them (there is a thread in the revo section, but i'm feeling lazy), so with the sucess of their secret testing with the velineon, I figure the new traxxas brushlessMT system will be out, Before the big two already mentioned.

Castle i'd like to be proven wrong as well, But with the redesigning, I don't see it till next summer

Pretty good. Never the less even though I've already bought a Quark, I'm willing to try a MMM if/when they come out, and hopefully its soon as I've just started to order parts for a 1/8scale buggy that's gonna need a serious ESC for some serious power.

we can only make our decisions based on the info given, or in castles case the lack there of. hopefully your statement means they will be soon even though we still dont even know projected specs.

Feigao were working with Traxxas on a larger motor...

If only they took one of their high amp boat controlers and put high voltage components in it with car software that worked with neu motors... they could make one model that could handle 4s to 12s and 240 amps that would do it for me, I would pay 400-500 for it. People pay 300+ for motors 300+ for lipo packs, 4-500 for a controler that is capable and servicable with a good waranty seems reasonable. I think a controler should outlast a lipo pack or motor. Upgradeablity would be the key not just USB software crap, I have a Valentine 1 radar detector when they have new software or hardware developments you send your detector in and they update it they have used the same basic model for like 10-15 years it does not become obsolete they, maintain their value and are continously rated best in their industry. A brushless controler could be the same way it would be brilliant.

There is a saying Joe "if you build it, they will come." This thread can take this saying a step farther. "If you build it, we "WILL" buy it." 650+ posts prove we want this product. Prove us wrong. We want you too! I can't speak for ever one here but I know a good number of us would put down money right now if castle asked. I am still a noobie around here but I would Volunteer to test your beta version. I know every one who posted in this thread would. I will take Brians advice:

:cry: I think you can, I think you can, I think you can, I think you can,...

Not only is that statement potentially combative to your client base, I have no idea what it means. What will we all be proven wrong about? Don't get me wrong here, I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything. I just don't understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying CC will be first on the market? Something we're wrong about on the specs?

In closing, CC has huge respect with me and many others from past experience in 1/18 and 1/10 scale performance. I gotta say though . . . that respect has been declining over the last 6 months. I guess it's not a huge deal for me though - I just installed a nice MGM 160 in my CRT and it's awesome.

Oops, I almost forgot . . . peace out.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...3/PeaceOut.jpg

Just my 2c..

I have to say that is seems like a deliberate attempt to pour gasoline on a smoldering fire - I think 99% people here are very supportive of castle and have just been dissapointed with the repeated promises of a controller and the lack of communication about design issues. Lets face it your an enthusiast if your active on this forum and understand the limits of the technology - We're pushing them every day!

It seems that Castle went down for the count with the BEC and the "new" version of the MM (which BTW you still can't get in the stores because of missed delivery dates).

I don't want to mix this thread up but I'd also add in the lead time for repairs has consistently been going up and up - It is now 4-5wks when a year ago it was measured in days - This is not a good trend... Having a car out of action for almost 2 months with shipping is a age...

The end...

Before we all pile on Joe, let's keep in mind that we couldn't hear the inflection or tone of his voice when he typed those words. Such is the biggest problem with written communication.

He could simply be really excited about his upcoming product blowing us all away. Maybe it's like 8s 300A and he's can't wait to make us all jump out of our skin. (Let's hope, right? :smile:)

My point is that we don't know exactly what he meant by it, so let's not rush to any judgement before he explains himself better.

Word.

Word, homie.

8S would be awesome!

well said....i've been meaning to put something similar. let's give poor joe a break - at least he's taken time out of his busy day to post here personally.

i'm very happy with my MM - so happy that i bought a 2nd one for my crawler (i picked it over a 'dedicated' crawling esc from novak). if the day comes when the MMM comes out, and the specs really do blow us away - handle a lot of power and stay cool, with programming and castle's system stability, i'll buy one. be it next month or next year.

I don't think anyone is jumping on Joe specifically. It's just that the MMM has been said to be "coming soon" for the last couple of years now and any email responses received are ambiguous at the least. People are just getting tired of waiting - especially when other companies (Traxxas) doesn't breathe a word and then, BAM, comes out with a totally new system out of the blue. A little marketing to boost anticipation is good, but it's starting to wear on not just a few people.

One bad thing about CC's marketing scheme is that people will have very high expectations thinking that since it took sooo long to create that it MUST be a kick @$$ ESC. Let's just hope that IS the case...

Couldn't have said it better myself. I must say my intention isn't to bash anyone, and this forum is excellent for it's level of maturity . . . however, I was hoping to point out in my post that Joe's comments could easily spark some responses in a negative way. Especially given the current climate of people on the MMM topic. If he (Joe) would like to clarify his thoughts, I'm sure everyone here would love to hear it.

you don't think anyone is jumping on joe (or castle in general)? :surprised: i've read some pretty testy statements in this thread. maybe people have a different definition of 'jumping on' than i do. :smile:

i guess that's not really my point though - my point is that all we really have to fall back on is impatience, and it's not because we don't have other options. after all, we didn't put a deposit down on a MMM. i agree with most of the points made, but just thought i'd throw joe (and castle) a life boat. and to say that even it it takes them another year, i'll buy one if it's good. :yes:

Just to clarify my point. I wasn't referring to peoples' feelings about the status of the MMM or any comments relating to it. I am equally as frustrated with the whole situation.

I just noticed a couple of specific statements reacting to Joe's post like "...seems like a deliberate attempt to pour gasoline on a smoldering fire..." and "Not only is that statement potentially combative to your client base...", and I wanted to make sure that "seems like" and "potentially" didn't become any stronger as the thread grew.

For the record, I agree with both posts that it does seem like Joe could have worded his post more clearly, and that it seemed potentially inciteful.

I'm honestly weary of talking about the MMM. I'm just going to try and forget about it until it arrives ... whenever that happens to be.

Well said. Especially the weary part. :mdr:

Well until it is produced.
I am not going to worry.
I will spend the money with others until then.
One day I may have the mmm.

I am still awaiting the release of the MMM with anticipation. From my perspective, the delay in its release has only affected the number of them that I will buy. If the MMM had been released two months ago, I'd have at least four of them. If the MMM is released tomorrow, I'll have one MMM and the four other controllers that I have.

I suppose that it's just a case of it being here when it gets here. I'm sure that it'll be nice. As for bashing Castle, I'm sure that no one is sitting around on their hands just letting time go by. Although their marketing plan has left something to be desired, I don't think that anything has been done with ill intent.

Not to "jump on Joe Ford" But if i relied on castle to produce the MMM this summer, i'd have had a bad summer RC wise. I had to get two quark 125's because my MM's were overheating and i don't like fans (one more thing to go wrong , or possibly cut a wire and lose control). I am not bashing Castle, I absolutely love my MM setups (In T4, B4 and academy sbv2 pro). I am disappointed though, that while they were having problems, they failed to keep us in the loop so we might not have gotten so sore at them.

One thing we all have to remember is that "Joe" works for Castle. He doesn't not own Castle or even run Castle for that matter. I am sure there are plenty of issue's that have been posted in this thead he agree's with. I am sure "Joe" would do things different if he owned or ran Castle.:yipi: He is only a worker on a giant totam pole. Crap still runs down hill.:oh: The one thing I can say about "Joe" is he is loyal to the company he works for. As is every one who posts in the forums. Loyalty in my eyes stands for something. Way to go JOE FORD!!!!:party::yipi:

Besides "Castle's" faults you all are going to buy one be it tomorrow or next year. Come on and admit it.:no: Don't be shy about.:oops: You are all going to be pushing, bumping, fighting, kicking, swearing at each other to get your hands on one "when" they are released. Did I mention nashing of teeth? Not that I have to after read some of the posts in this thread.:whistle:

I was gonna say something similar... I think Joe wants the MMM just as bad as anyone... or more so because he's the face of CC for many. He has to keeping dealing with the quesitons. When it finally is here, all that crap is over.

We don't know what's going on behind the magic curtain at CC, but Joe is NOT the one pulling the strings.

Also don't forget he's only been there for like 6 months?... so the MM predates him by a looonnnggggg time. :)

This has been suggested before.. but perhaps CC would be more productive in getting their stuff done if they spent less time on stuff like Burning Man projects and Barbie doll ride-ons. I know it may be a "break" for the guys but it's not good that it actually has been given as an excuse for why the engineers are behind.

At any rate, they will get it done when it becomes a priority for the company... then and only then.