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Jahay 10.12.2010 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SV6000 (Post 383501)
Has anyone got an update on these controllers, Patrick could you release a pic so that we can see what it looks like. Will it look more like a MMM or Phoenix ICE HV controller???

+1 :whistle:

i want to plan ahead so i can figure out how i am going to mount it in my chassis

BIG-block 10.14.2010 03:44 PM

Come on Patrick. Throw us a bone here. Even a bread crumb would do. LOL.

A pic of what it would look like and maybe a definitive date of release would be very nice. Pretty please.

Pdelcast 10.14.2010 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG-block (Post 383965)
Come on Patrick. Throw us a bone here. Even a bread crumb would do. LOL.

A pic of what it would look like and maybe a definitive date of release would be very nice. Pretty please.

Sorry -- these have been released to production, just not in the production schedule yet. We expect them to be available to the general public in early-mid November.

Jahay 10.14.2010 03:54 PM

thanks for the update. early to mid november... I take it that is only for the 8s? will the 12s not be available till after christmas?

Semi Pro 10.14.2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 383969)
Sorry -- these have been released to production, just not in the production schedule yet. We expect them to be available to the general public in early-mid November.

thats great news:yipi:

BIG-block 10.14.2010 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 383969)
Sorry -- these have been released to production, just not in the production schedule yet. We expect them to be available to the general public in early-mid November.

WoooHoooo! :yipi:
I found my Christmas present. Thanks Pat. Anyway of pre-ordering through Castle? I bought all these 8S capable motors and have no 8S capable ESC to run them.:cry:

Arct1k 10.14.2010 10:40 PM

I believe its the 8S first the 12S needed a touch more tinkering IIRC.

Shonen 10.22.2010 11:25 PM

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...&ref=fbx_album

!!!

Not on the official site yet...cannot wait!

Jahay 10.23.2010 06:18 AM

GETTING EXCITED!!!

but is it still the case that the 8s controller will on work with 8s if using mechanical brakes?

and

6s with motor brakes?

And the 12s controller only can take 12s if you use mech brakes

and 10s if you use motor brakes?

Pdelcast 10.23.2010 08:38 PM

Ll
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 385069)
GETTING EXCITED!!!

but is it still the case that the 8s controller will on work with 8s if using mechanical brakes?

and

6s with motor brakes?

And the 12s controller only can take 12s if you use mech brakes

and 10s if you use motor brakes?

The 8s controller will work with 8s and brakes... The 12s controller with 10s with motor brake, 12 s with mechanical brakes.

Jahay 10.24.2010 06:56 AM

Thanks Patrick...

I most definitely will be wanting to run 9s on the 1520.
Due to my savage now being more of a fatty since i have added the GH Alloy Bulks and put the lipo boxes back on... i have had to gear the top end down a bit to keep the truck from getting hot. So i now need to run more voltage to get my desired speeds... so i will definitely be wanting to run 9s.

Patrick, i know that these neu motors are well made, and i have heard people running 10s on a neu 1520! obviously this exceeds the reccomended RPM.
I used a calculator and have the figures here assuming the following.

Neu 1520 (1600 kv)
Motor Resistance = 0.008
Current draw = roughly 120 amps?

Voltage Vs Rpm
Voltage---@3.7V-------@ 4.2V
8s--------45,824-------52,224
9s--------51,774-------58,994
10s-------57,664-------65,664

If i can i would ideally like to run 10s and gear my top end down to compensate.
I have heard of few people running their motors on the limit like this with no problems.
Do you think this would be ok to run? obviously i would expext premature motor failure...

What do you think?
Your advice is more appreciated
Thanks

Josh

brian015 10.24.2010 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 385168)
Thanks Patrick...

I most definitely will be wanting to run 9s on the 1520.
Due to my savage now being more of a fatty since i have added the GH Alloy Bulks and put the lipo boxes back on... i have had to gear the top end down a bit to keep the truck from getting hot. So i now need to run more voltage to get my desired speeds... so i will definitely be wanting to run 9s.

What is your rtr weight? Why don't you think that 8s will be enough for you (I can tell you from experience that 8s gives lots of power).

Jahay 10.24.2010 07:18 AM

im not sure... but it used to be 14.3lbs fully loaded with 6s worth of lipos

Now it has GH Alloy bulks, Nylon Roll Cage, lipo boxes... so i would say around 15.5-16lbs? maybe more? i will weigh it properly very soon.

Oh i know 8s will give me MORE than enough power... But i want to go all out with this setup. I have spent a lot of money thus far and i think i should just max it out and be happy. Otherwise after i buy the 8s controller i will want the 12s one anyway! we all know how it is in this hobby :)

also considering...

i know many that run the 2650kv on 6s... on 6s at 3.7V its at 58,830 and 4.2V at 66,780

also i heard somewhere that, these motors are fine for higher RPMs but the bearings are only rated to 60,000rpm...
What would a bearing failure do to the motor? Would it be repairable or do you usually want to catch bearing failure before it happens? Can i replace the bearings with some decent ceramic bearings that are rated to higher rpms?

brian015 10.24.2010 08:28 AM

For my 19lb truck, I didn't see any real advantage to 10s over 8s, so I'm sticking with 8s. I can gear it for 50mph and with good batteries it has almost uncontrollable acceleration.

BIG-block 10.24.2010 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 383969)
Sorry -- these have been released to production, just not in the production schedule yet. We expect them to be available to the general public in early-mid November.


Soooo, that's like three weeks now Patrick. Right? Can we RC-Monster power hungry freaks pre-order one (or two)?:whistle:


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