FINALLY a half respectable industry expert giving a real reveiw of the pack!






We all knew it anyway.


And I have a conffession that I fit into the 'never owned a maxamps' group but my excuse is I have been guided by the 'creme del a creme' RMC:yipi::angel:

Just saw the video- MA are going to be frothing at the mouth about this video; and Im glad about it too.

Post it everywhere and drive those con-artists out of business!

Surprize!!! Not!!!
 

Well aren't we all surprized about these results? I mean come on even the Maxamps lovers would have to know that these packs are no better than any other packs, but yet priced as if they are made of real gold. How may people on here will rebut these results? Yes finally some one took the time to do some testing and comparison graphs up against some of the more reasonably priced packs and came up with real world results and we all knew what the outcome was going to be. So of course the whole warranty situation is also a bunch of crap, because who in their right mind would want to pay that much for a warranty return when you can purchase a better performing pack for much less. I wonder how the people who bought these packs prior and had to pay extra for this so called warranty feel about Maxamps now? Its like he stated you can purchase three or four packs from one of their competitors and come out much better performance wise and save yourself some money. From a consumer perspective I think that Maxamps should change their flame wraps to a steaming turd with flat tires on it.

i think i might make an account over at nitrokillers.com and post up this video. I wonder how long it would stay up there for?

MA is just form of legalized scamming for profiteers.
A fool and his money is easily departed<= That is how/why there business model works.

Most people Ive met with MA after discussing real world dynamics with them they dump that rump and score real Lipoes by selling there overprices POS to some other uneducated idiot on fleabay/Craigslist.
Then score 2+ of the "Made in China" lolz.

To quote the great Nelson muntz, "ha-ha!". Wow a 30amp bulb discharge, think I mentioned that before but about the results I expected. Pretty sad though couldn't get anymore runtime than a 5000 with that extra 1500 mah that's supposedly in there. Might have to throw this up on RC-tech just to piss people off.

already there...

noobs don't know how to embed vids...:diablo:

Is it wrong to enjoy watching that video.:lol:

Funny
 

yea isn't it funny I found myself smiling through most of it as well. It is kind of like what we already knew, but finally it is out there for everyone to see. Soon even the Maxamps fans will also abandon them, and in less than a year they will be much like an insect shot by RAID with their legs up in the air. I am sure most of the people had their doubts about Maxamps, but unless they can produce proof that this video is false they are doomed. Can any of you see this happening?:lol:

I don't see it happening, they have the magazines in their pockets with ads. All the mags say nothing but great things about maxamps (and pretty much everything else...). This does help get it out into the open though, and I'm really glad Jang did it.
So long as there are noobs that go out to buy a magazine to see what's new and hot, there will be noobs buying Maxcraps.

Come Back Brandon and show us those Graphs you promised! :lol::rofl:

Who reads those rags anymore? :lol:

Even if you do, you'll end up looking for info online and will come across these kind of threads eventually.

Hands up from who's watched that video from Jang more than ten times already.:lol:

I just find it so enjoyable to watch. Just feels like there is finally some form of retribution for all the poor noobs that have been ripped off by those con artists.

I dont think anyone was surprised about the C rating being wrong, but to lie about the capacity of the pack too??? Thats just going wayyyyyyy to far.

This is what I'm amazed by as well - I mean, anyone can see how much they put back into their lipo on their charger. And customers of MA are happy when they can only put 5000mAh back into their 6500mAh pack? If they have any experience with other brands they should be very unhappy with the overrated capacity of the MA packs. And yet some of them still buy more.

:neutral:

MA are just shameless Honey Badgers.

Where is Brandon to try and refute all of this?!?!

Swimming in a pool filled with money of course! The thread on rctech is the same old story with ma. People who swear by them will post once raving and flaming the suspicious but never come back with proof. Just my car is the fastest ever type stuff. Jeez. I'm about ready to buy a two cell and disassemble it and test the cells individually to have a few to work with. I'm sure it's a 2s2p setup so I could get some volume to test. Will need an eagle tree and a couple deans bulb dischargers but might be worth the money just to make myself smile and do a real review of some comonly used packs. Dunno maybe we can all start a fund and pitch in like ten bucks and buy a pack for someone to test that has a good eagle tree setup and such?

Hmmm, I could try to parallel discharge one pack for a total of 80A continuous with my two FMA chargers. Or if I could get my broken one replaced, I could discharge at 120A continuous. I would need a pair of car batteries to dump the power into though.

I would dre say that just one of your PowerLab8's would stress that battery quite enough.


Hey guys, didn't Arct1k say that he got similar run times from those MA packs as he got from the Turnigy 4S 4500mAh 30C packs in his Bajas. Or was he talking about performance? I could have sworn he said the same run time as well.

I seem to recall the same thing :yes:

Yes, it's "True" alright!

Maxamps thinks we can't tell the difference on "C" rating.

They've gotten by with that for soooooooo long, that they think we can't tell the difference on Capacity either!

Shame on you Maxamps for CROOKED Business!

They have even got the mods on RC tech to remove the jang test video and all related topics and posts from the forum. Pretty sad. Not suprised though after meeting Brandon wilcox at rcx. Smacked of arrogance and talked to me like I wouldn't know my ass from a hole in the ground, but I guess the people that are buying there stuff are that way. There were a few people on rct that were defending them but had no data or evidance to prove otherwise. Just the usual my car is the fastest in the world and dumb stuff like that.

He didn't come across that way when he started posting here. I reckon the amount of BS he has had to put up with might've changed his atittude some (not lots).

Pretty sad
 

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They have even got the mods on RC tech to remove the jang test video and all related topics and posts from the forum. Pretty sad. Not suprised though after meeting Brandon wilcox at rcx.


Now thats pretty sad. Using their clout to drowned out any comparible perspective just because it is not in their best interest. Facts are facts and you can not hide from the truth. It will always find you one way or another. Look I am sure that the Maxamps packs are useful to some degree, but in comparison to the rest of the market their cells are just not holding up very well. And the fact that they are charging more for a lower grade product is just down right dishonest. I wonder if anyone has reported them to the BBB?

Maxamps must have threatened a lawsuit or something!

It doesn't matter though. You have to see through the smoke.

In this sue happy society, you can sue anyone for anything, but that doesn't mean you're going to win!

That's because you have to Prove things. Just remember, it isn't slander if it's the TRUTH!

I wonder why that only happened on rctech? That video is posted everywhere. Are they a sponsor on rctech or something?

Its funny
 

Isn't it funny though. I mean think about this, really. If it were not true, then Maxamps would simply post a dispute and kill the rumors or posts that slander their reputation. The mere fact that all they did was have to video removed proves that the video shows the truth. They can not dispute the video, because there is no way to dispute what was in the video in the first place. We all knew their cells and advertisements were a bunch of lies, and not everyone can see it for real in this video. I see a sinking ship that is going down fast. So what do they put in their next resume'? Scam artist, liar, thief, flame sticker professional?:lol:

On No! You can bet that's going to be over-rated and exaggerated too.

More like "Marketing Professional".

With all the Misdirection truth burying and repeated lies they have a PERFECT Resume for a State senator or Congressional position.
Sad thing is they'd probably be hired ><

They never can dispute anything, only deflect and argue. Much like a politician as Team Pie so nicely pointed out.

I beat all of their arguments and Austin still never conceded to me.

The first major argument is that people simply can't afford them so bash them on that basis. Well seeing as I have owned their packs along with packs from Flight Power, Hyperion, Thunder Power, and Neu that argument hardly works.

The next is that I did something wrong. Well, seeing how the other packs stood up to the exact same setups the MA packs didn't, that argument falls flat.

Then it's I did not charge/balance them properly some how. I use the same hyperion balance chargers they sell so again, dead argument. Then add in the fact my other packs are fine.

Then you have the argument from them I am some how biased. I don't see how as I have no vested interest in any RC company. I am in it to play and that's it. The only ones who could possibly be biased in the argument is Austin since he owns MA.

As for the warranty, good luck with that. Even when I had an almost immediate failure (the pack puffed and would not charge to half the rated MAH and voltage would not peak) they only offered a slight discount on a new pack. Whoopee!

I even have some of their more recent packs that I got in deals with vehicles I bought and they are still poor performers. The 2000 mah 3s crawler packs from MA don't run any longer than my 1300 mah sky lipo 3s crawler packs. :surprised:

Anyway, none of this including the video surprises me one bit. It's all par for the course with MA.

actually, they recently became a sponsor of rctech, so that would be why anything negative against maxcraps is now being removed on rctech. the way i see it is they are buying out these forum sites because the truth is being pointed out about how bad of a value their packs are. if they are sponsors of a forum site, say, rctech, they can demand that anything negative about them is removed in order to maintain sponsorship. their goal with this is pretty obvious: block all negativity toward them while still making their outrageous claims, so that the noobs and "unaware" people continue to waste their money on their sub-par overpriced packs.

i am in no way biased toward brand names, but i have yet to see any maxamps packs perform anywhere near what they are rated for. i have a pair of their 2s packs that i acquired in a trade and while they are rated at "30c", they are actually more like 5-6c packs. in my evader ext2 (a very light 2wd 1/10 truck), they drop voltage so badly that they will start to hit the 3v/cell LVC on my sidewinder only 2 minutes into the run and slowly hit it more and more from there. my 3 year old tenergy 6 cell 4200mah ni-mh pack holds voltage better than those maxamps packs. i only use them in the evader because they simply cannot handle anything more and since the punch is so weak on them, i don't have to worry about drivetrain issues:yes:

also, by the way, they are 3000mah 2s packs that i run in parallel (6000mah 2s2p) in the evader and they will still temp at over 110F geared for only 40mph with a weak brushless setup. they are so weak that when i charge them at 1c, they will increase about 5-10F above their starting temperature. i usually only charge them at .5c. and they only take about 1800-2100mah in a full charge. i have a single 2200mah 2s 20c turnigy lipo that runs cooler and has more punch than those packs combined. surprisingly, they only puff slightly during the run and go back to almost solid after charging.

also, i once ran an almost new "60c" i think 6500mah 4s pack in my brushless 1/8 buggy geared for 38mph and it got up to 145F and swelled up pretty bad. i apologized to the owner of the pack, but he even agreed with me that that pack sucked, despite it costing over $200. i then let him run my 20c 5000mah turnigy lipo and he said the punch on it was waaay better than his maxcramps pack. he now only runs turnigy and hyperion packs.

i've also seen a pair of savage flux battery boxes ruined due to the maxcraps packs swelling to the point where the boxes broke open on the sides.

sorry about the ranting, but that is my experience with maxamps, not to mention the various escs and puffed/vented maxamps packs that i have seen and most of them were only run in slashes, rustlers, and other 1/10 vehicles.

You guys should enjoy this thread as well:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1434306&page=6

Check out my last post with a screen shot from RCTech.

I think its really funny that MA sends out thank you cards to their customers. People think that shows "excellent customer service" :lol:

I think it's funny there are maxamp bashing threads all over the net and they are laying low.:na:

Awesome people over there believing that relating and disusing TRUTH is considered BASHING.

Makes me wounder if they have ever TRUTHED A Maxamps battery to witness its BASHING upon there own R/Cs.

Please post facts and not your opinion. Myself nor anyone at MaxAmps.com had the thread or video removed. As far as responding to any of these posts, if any customers need any support please see our website, we are not actively checking forum posts.

Thank you,

Brandon

you heard the man...

SPAM THEIR INBOX!!!!

Facts, you mean like a 6500mah battery that only can do 5000mah? My bad...

Keep in mind that video was produced by 1 man. A man who accepts advertising on his site from the makers of Ace Batteries. (Put 2 and 2 together here) So I will let you use your own brain, instead of letting everyone else think for you. If all our 6500 packs were really only 5000mah packs we wouldn't still be in business, people would be calling and complaining and people would be posting negatively all over the internet. We never received any complaints about those cells being underrated. In fact we have numerous people that report putting 6700 or even 6800 in those cells. We sell 5450 capacity packs and the graph that he shows in his video, legit or not looks more like our 5450 cells. Have a great day.

Brandon