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Takedown 09.20.2008 09:40 AM

I still have to figure out what I'll be using for a mount. It needs to be somewhat light but very rigid to hold up the 4.5lb motor.

BL_RV0 09.20.2008 10:33 AM

Where are you going to get a 13t spur?

Takedown 09.20.2008 12:45 PM

#25 chain driven sprokets aka "pinions"- http://www.electricscooterparts.com/sprockets.html

BL_RV0 09.20.2008 12:47 PM

How are you going to mount it to the centre diff?

Takedown 09.20.2008 12:49 PM

Should be pretty damn easy. Im most likely going to purchase an 8mm shaft of the proper length along with some 8mm beaings and grind some flat spots on it. Should be quite easy.

BL_RV0 09.20.2008 12:51 PM

So its going to be a spool?

Takedown 09.20.2008 12:57 PM

Ill be running a 90' angled mount directly mounting to the chassis nitro engine mounts. This way it wont stress the center diff.

BL_RV0 09.20.2008 01:09 PM

I mean how are you going to retain the centre diff function and have basically a pinion rather than a spur mounted onto it?

Takedown 09.20.2008 06:01 PM

Spur/center diff will be gone. It will be a pinion on an 8mm shaft for the center driveline. Basic easy and strong.

Mister-T 09.20.2008 07:48 PM

Litlle off topic maybe
A well built brushed motor can have decent efficiency, at my job the largest brushed motor does have only 246 KW output, enjoy your torque monster :P. and the whole motor is just warm after few hour of running, however there is a permanent cooling over brush.

SpEEdyBL 09.20.2008 09:45 PM

Make sure your pinions gears are wide enough so the can of the motor doesn't hit the driveline. For mod 1.0 to be used and if there is 5 cm of space between the motor shaft center and the driveline you, need more than 100 teeth total (pinion + spur). For 13 and 14 tooth pinion gears to be used, your pinion gear must be at least Mod 4.0 pitch. I still don't see how you get 2440 watts out of that motor or how it will pull 81 amps. I've never heard of scooter motor making anywhere near that amount of power as the human body can easily out run and out accelerate anyone on any electric scooter ive seen and were talking less than 500 watts. I can output about 550 watts on a rowing erg which uses all the major muscles in your body and an olympic rower does about 750 watts during a race.

Takedown 09.20.2008 09:50 PM

Like I said before its not an amp hawg. Amps x Volts= Watts and if the motor doesnt pull any amps then its not making sufficient watts over the spool up period. The motor is all torque and if geared enough the watts will go up bigtime because of the fact that it will be trying to gain its full potential with a higher ratio which in return equals more amp draw meaning more watts. All depends on what your setup is....

BL_RV0 09.21.2008 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takedown (Post 214595)
Spur/center diff will be gone. It will be a pinion on an 8mm shaft for the center driveline. Basic easy and strong.

Ooooooohhhhhhh.......

SpEEdyBL 09.23.2008 02:07 PM

[QUOTE=Takedown;214664]Like I said before its not an amp hawg. Amps x Volts= Watts and if the motor doesnt pull any amps then its not making sufficient watts over the spool up period. The motor is all torque and if geared enough the watts will go up bigtime because of the fact that it will be trying to gain its full potential with a higher ratio which in return equals more amp draw meaning more watts. All depends on what your setup is....[/QUOTE

Higher amp draw does not mean more watts. In fact, the motor draws the most amps when its not moving or stalled, which means its making 0 power and has 0% efficiency. And as you may notice, motors have a limit to the current they can pull.

brushlessboy16 09.23.2008 03:05 PM

[QUOTE=SpEEdyBL;215515]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Takedown (Post 214664)
Like I said before its not an amp hawg. Amps x Volts= Watts and if the motor doesnt pull any amps then its not making sufficient watts over the spool up period. The motor is all torque and if geared enough the watts will go up bigtime because of the fact that it will be trying to gain its full potential with a higher ratio which in return equals more amp draw meaning more watts. All depends on what your setup is....[/QUOTE

Higher amp draw does not mean more watts. In fact, the motor draws the most amps when its not moving or stalled, which means its making 0 power and has 0% efficiency. And as you may notice, motors have a limit to the current they can pull.


That is incorrect, motor draws the most amps at startup, and because its pulling high amps and the batterys can deal with the load (no voltage drop) your making the most watts possible getting everything spinning... and for the split second where it is drawing the most amps-dont quote me on this one- but the whole motor wouldnt heat up that fast-making it more efficient.


just my dueces


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