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david lamontagn 09.30.2008 01:47 PM

With the Neu 1512, 3200Kv, in my slash, i'll use a 58T Jato spur with a 13T pinion, with proline badlands tire (4.8"), and i'll have (theorically:lol:) the same speed that i had with my feigao 10L, geared 54T/17T.
But i'am sure that the efficiency and heat will be different.

Another question, maybe for BrianG or other guys here, what does mean the Max Amps in the motor description. For exemple, for the Neu 1512, 1.5d, it's 135A.
For a 1512, 2.5d, it's 78A.
For a Feigao 10L, it's 61A.

I think that's the max current that the motor can support, but not sure.


Thank you!

BrianG 09.30.2008 02:35 PM

Usually, each motor series has a rated max power value. Motors also have a max rpm. Then, each wind has a different kv value.

So, let's say a motor is rated for 1,000w, max rpm of 50,000, and a kv of 2000:
Voltage to get max rpm = maxrpm/kv = 50,000/2,000 = 25v
Current (using ohms law) = power / voltage = 1,000/25 = 40A.

On a 1512/2.5d (60k max rpm, 2050kv, 2000w surge power): Max v = 29.26v. Max A = 67.6A. But, they probably round down the voltage to a common lipo value, so the voltage becomes 7s (25.9). Max A then becomes 77.2A, which is pretty darn close to their spec'd 78A.

That's the only way I can think of that they come up with their numbers...

MetalMan 09.30.2008 02:46 PM

Without plugging the number into Artur's motor program a quick guess would be that those listed currents represent peak efficiency, where exceeding that number results in rapidly-decreasing efficiency ratings. Yay/nay?

BrianG 09.30.2008 02:58 PM

No idea - could very well be so. But without the program, it's hard to verify that that's what they are doing...

david lamontagn 09.30.2008 03:07 PM

OK BrianG, so let me know something. I've order a 1512 1.5d, 3200Kv, with a Max curent of 135A. I'll use it on 11.1volts. If i consider a gearing of about 40m/h, is this motor will pull more amps from my li-po than if i would have take a 1509, 2d, 3300Kv, 95A, for a same gearing:neutral::neutral:

And what about heat and efficiancy???

david lamontagn 10.01.2008 12:53 PM

Just order another one, a 1509 2.5d, 2700Kv:lol:

david lamontagn 10.01.2008 09:06 PM

:gasp:Too bad, just see that i can't put a Neu motor in the stock slash tranny, Neu motor have a diameter of 40mm (smooth can) and Feigao have 36mm:surprised:
The only way to put a Neu is to order the RCM FLM alloy tranny case...........................And that's what i just did:eyes:

The only problem is that the rear bumper will not fit anymore:neutral:

BL_RV0 10.01.2008 10:24 PM

No. The FINNED can neu is 40mm. You'll be fine with the smooth can at 36mm.

jhautz 10.01.2008 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 218152)
No. The FINNED can neu is 40mm. You'll be fine with the smooth can at 36mm.

No.... the SMOOTH can Neu is 40mm. The finned can is even bigger. Feigao and Lehner are 36mm.

BL_RV0 10.01.2008 10:27 PM

:oops:

david lamontagn 10.01.2008 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 218153)
No.... the SMOOTH can Neu is 40mm. The finned can is even bigger. Feigao and Lehner are 36mm.

Yep:eyes: that's what i've see on the Neu website
http://www.neumotors.com/20061222/Motor_drawings.html

Semi Pro 10.01.2008 11:23 PM

i thought fastlane had a case that would work with the bumper?

david lamontagn 10.01.2008 11:30 PM

No i'll have to make my own mod to fit bumper.
Bah!!! anyways, no need rear bumper after all, i'll just have a Neu 1512, 1.5d on 3s, don't think that my slash will wheely:lol::lol::lol:


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