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gixxer 06.25.2009 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 298946)
For the handy guys among you, we even offer replacement, wound stators for the Ballistic platform motors:

Novak Ballistic Motor Accessories

We will be releasing info on our Ballistic Spec Series motors, soon. Bob is submitting the motors for ROAR approval.


thats awesome. I always liked the novak motor but hated that the sensor wire was not removable. now a replacement stator is more then I ever expected.

I will be checking these out some more when you release the spec versions. Any time frame for that?

thanks

NovakTwo 06.25.2009 04:08 PM

We just received the colored insert plastics that designate the different spec winds, so we should be in production soon.

zetor 06.27.2009 06:46 AM

Any plans of a light version's ?

NovakTwo 06.27.2009 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zetor (Post 299519)
Any plans of a light version's ?

If we do offer Light versions, It would be only stators wound with the light wire, as in our Velociti Lights. That was the only internal difference between the Velociti standard and Light versions.

gixxer 08.15.2009 08:28 PM

I just got mine this week. Question on the timing though. How many degrees is each line? There are 3 pos and 3 neg. Does it go to 12 degrees like most motors, making each line 4 degrees?

thanks

NovakTwo 08.16.2009 01:56 PM

We need to update the timing info for the Ballistics. At this time, I suggest sending an email to tech@teamnovak.com

Here is what Steve posted elsewhere---it does not address your specific question:

Actually the timing does come "pre-set" exactly like the timing on the SS line of motors.

While there is no physical stop preventing you from adding more timing, the timing label itself only has deliniations going so high or so low. We recommend using timing settings only within the range delinated by the label.



Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxer (Post 313429)
I just got mine this week. Question on the timing though. How many degrees is each line? There are 3 pos and 3 neg. Does it go to 12 degrees like most motors, making each line 4 degrees?

thanks


gixxer 08.16.2009 08:26 PM

Yah I only plan on using the range on the label just wanted to know exactly how many degrees it was. Then I know more how much to set the esc at.

RCZILLA 08.18.2009 06:46 AM

I think I may have found my new motor.

NovakTwo 08.18.2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxer (Post 313429)
I just got mine this week. Question on the timing though. How many degrees is each line? There are 3 pos and 3 neg. Does it go to 12 degrees like most motors, making each line 4 degrees?

Ballistic Motor Timing Information Update (Preliminary)

In an effort to answer a number of questions relating to motor timing we have compiled some information to help you better understand static motor timing and its effects with our Ballistic Series of motors.

“How many Degrees of Timing does my Ballistic Motor have?”

Our Ballistic motors come with their timing calibrated and set from the factory. Using custom built and calibrated electronic equipment we set each and every motor to 30 degrees of timing. After Calibration the timing label is added and this set timing corresponds to the “N” on the timing label on the side

Each line on the label denotes a 5 degree change, so the timing available on the motor the label corresponds as follows:

-3 -2 -1 N +1 +2 +3
15 20 25 30 35 40 45

SPECIAL NOTE: The timing we are describing is the ACTUAL ELECTRICAL TIMING in the motor, not just some arbitrarily reference made from a point on the outside of the motor like many of our competitors' motors. This makes comparing timing settings between different brands of motors difficult without the proper equipment.

“What Does Timing Adjustment do?”

We set our timing at an optimized point for most general applications. Adjusting the timing should only be done in small increments and with great care to observe the changes in system performance and temperatures.

WE RECOMMEND THAT YOUR SYSTEM’S TEMPERATURE NEVER EXCEED 160 DEGREES FARENHEIGHT.

When adjusting the timing, we recommend adjusting the timing, at most, 1 notch, or 5 degrees at a time.

When you turn the timing up to a more positive number (from N to +1) your motor will produce more no-load RPM and generally suffer a slight reduction in torque. To combat excessive heating brought about the loss of torque we recommend gearing down 1 tooth on the pinion for each notch (5 degree increment).

When turning the timing down, to a more negative number (from N to -1) your motor will produce less no-load RPM and generally experience an increase in torque. To combat a loss of top end speed brought about by the loss of RPM we recommend gearing up 1 tooth on the pinion for each notch (5 degree increment).

NovakTwo 08.21.2009 06:04 PM

Ballistic Timing Questions, Part 2

“How do I set my Ballistic to zero degrees of timing?”

The factory timing for the Ballistic is 30 degrees of timing and corresponds to the N on the timing label on the back of the motor.

We do not recommend running zero degrees of timing for most applications and would recommend running at least 5 degrees of timing to ensure proper operation of the motor.

NOTE: When running your timing lower than the pre-set factory 30 degrees your reversing function of your Novak ESC may not work properly as it accounts for this 30 degrees of timing in its commutation sequence.

To adjust the motor to this lower 5 degree timing setting:

1. Loosen the three 1.5 mm hex head screws on the back timing cap of the motor

2. Turn the end-cap clockwise until the stationary notch on the endbell lines up with the edge of the label as demonstrated in the picture below:

[Photos to be added when we update our website]

3. Re-tighten the three 1.5 mm hex head screws in a circular pattern to ensure that they are all tightened evenly.

gixxer 08.21.2009 08:10 PM

thanks for the information.


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