They're budget packs, but will get the job done. If you've got the cash, look into the hyperion g3 packs.

Hmmm - I have a couple stock hellfire bodies on my shelf (have a hellfire roller too....just have never done anything with it!). They are factory paint, but should give me a good idea of how it'll look.

They may be budget packs, i have some hyperions packs, and Thunder power 40c packs. Honestly i do not care what anyone says, you will never be able to tell the difference. BUDGET FTW!

Well i stripped those dang 3 mm bolts that hold the motor to the motor mount :surprised: I think the losi conversion motor mount is designed for 4 mm bolts. Not sure but there seems to be a little play.

You can't tell a difference? My G3's blow my other Enerland HP 25C packs away, and out of the ballpark.

Cavy, get some good packs, you will see a huge boost in performance over the MA packs. If you don't like cheaply made packs such as the zippy/turnigy packs (although not too bad), then go for the Hyperion G3 VX packs, pretty well at the top of the performance ladder right now, excellent quality, and the best prices for the high end lipo brands. The MA packs are some of the crappiest around, and HAPPEN to be the most expensive. :no:

the only difference i see in my packs is the one polyquest 6000 i have has less ass then all my zippies, lol

Sweet thanks guys