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skellyo 11.01.2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ReV:-O (Post 330532)
I'm just wondering how tough buggies are. I know truggy's are meant to be stronger than monster trucks, but I dont really know about buggies. They don't have upper A-arms... I don't really know enough about them.

While they don't have the ground clearance of a monster truck or truggy, they can take a heck of a lot of abuse. I would say they're as durable as most anything out there and way more durable than a Revo.

Snipin_Willy 11.01.2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ReV:-O (Post 330532)
They don't have upper A-arms...

You need to get to a track more often :lol:
Buggies do have upper suspension arms, but only in the front. Truggies are the same. From what I've experienced, buggies can take more abuse because of their stubby suspension arm length in comparison to a truggy but they seem to be easier to make mistakes with because they're not as forgiving as a truggy when going over jumps or big bumps.

I've seen this issue before as well with a CC2200 motor not performing to specs. I'd have a talk with castle and see if they can replace it. It might not be an ESC or radio problem but only way to check is to reset the radio to default settings, rebind, and recalibrate the ESC end points when you turn it on. If that fails, investigate the motor.

ReV:-O 11.01.2009 12:19 PM

Thanks for the replies guys, I really appreciate it!

Snipin_Willy, you say buggies have upper A-arms in the front?

http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/ki...allery/001.jpg

From the look of that picture, it seems as though there is two turnbuckles (or something) replacing the top A-arm front and back.
The Revo is a pretty durable truck, I haven't broken anything major on it yet.

I've literally checked everything on the Revo, like the MMM and radio settings etc - nothing works.
But I can't really send Castle my MMM combo because technically there is nothing wrong with it, it still pushes my Revo to 50mph and makes it flip on its lid...

ReV:-O 11.01.2009 12:45 PM

Well it seems the Ve8 is out of the question, the battery box is 140mm long, but my lipo's are 155mm long. Dang.

suicideneil 11.01.2009 11:47 PM

Suspenion design varies ALOT between manufacturers- some brands are rather spindly looking, others are built like tanks, literally, so no chance of them falling apart in all but the worst crashes. I wold look in the buggie section and see what you like- as for lipo trays, you can always modify or replace the stock item; looking at the Vorsa above, you could put a longer tray in the stocker's place, then relocate the esc above the center diff for example- that doesnt have the biggest chassis ever I must admit. Look around though, lots of research to be done before getting too despondant.... :smile:

Topspeedtimmy 11.05.2009 10:50 AM

Just a thought about deciding between the buggy and your current Revo: It doesn't seem wise to just buy the first interesting vehicle you see. Take your time. Also, it could be possible to get your REVO to handle with a little more agility (similar to a buggy). Here some things that could help- truggy tires, sway bars, thicker shock oil, possible P3 rockers, tougher springs, maybe even a lower pushrod setting or less preload.
I don't think a buggy will like cruising through the grass at high speed as much as a REVO if that's what your going for.

Rusteh101 11.05.2009 11:01 AM

I would try and get your motor replaced if you are certain everything is set properly on the ESC and it is calibrated to your radio properly. I think selling the whole truck just because of lack of 60+ mph runs is silly. Also, if you are geared to 60+ your truck won't do standing backflips.

If you do decide to sell the E-Revo I would recommend getting a Hong Nor X1CR (Jammin in the USA, Hong Nor in the UK) They are built incredibly well and are very very strong, then covert it to electric yourself.

ReV:-O 11.05.2009 01:52 PM

Thanks for the replies.

Rusteh101, I might consider sending the motor and esc back to castle, but more than likely i will just sell the whole thing. I have never been impressed with the e-revo since i bought it, and this is just an excuse to move on.

At the moment, i am geared 18/65 which is about 43mph theoretically. I'm getting mid 30's, and in the 20's on short grass. It can just about do a wheelie.

I don't have a lot of money to spend on a new car, basically all I have to spend is what I get from selling my e-revo, and Blade 400 helicopter, which will probably amount to around £500.

Topspeedtimmy, i'm not bothered about the handling of either vehicle. I don't race, only bash. I am just interested in speed as that's what gets my adrenaline flowing.

what I don't understand is, the E-Revo brushless edition and the HPI Vorza use exactly the same power system. Now, with the same batteries, surely the Vorza will be faster than the E-Revo because it's smaller and lighter. I don't understand how the E-Revo can be faster.

suicideneil 11.05.2009 02:02 PM

Tire diameter- the revo uses somehing like 5.6-5.8" ones, the buggy uses smaller sized items (dont know the actual size, but something like ~5" or less maybe?). With the same gearing, the truck will be faster- on paper atleast...

ReV:-O 11.05.2009 03:03 PM

the Vorza uses 17mm hexes, so Revo wheels could be put on


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