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fastbaja5b 08.07.2010 10:55 PM

Handy to have on hand but isn't preventation better than cure?

Wouldn't a hardcase Lipo have prevented this?

bryan 08.07.2010 11:29 PM

Hopefully freeze hasnt seen this:lol:

BrianG 08.07.2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Overdriven (Post 354054)
...I find it funny when computer geeks want a Halatron fire extinguisher (halon replacement) for their computer rooms. They are more expensive than CO2 and you still have to be there to use it, if you're not, it's just a nice decoration. I always tell them, get an automatic fire ext ($2k and up) or don't waste your money on anything more than ABC. The computer is going to be toast anyway if it caught fire and you didn't get to it real quick. Just take a look at that mugen mrx4 fire. They got to it in time, but didn't have an ext, all it took was another min to destroy the rest of the car.

At the company where I used to work (Operations Manager), we used an FM200 system, but it was a 24/7/365 computer operations setup, so someone was there all the time. Where I work now, they use something else, can't remember the name. All I remember is the guy said that if it went off while you were in the room, you could still function (albeit not well) if you breathed a little in. Anyway, this operations is not 24/7/365, so you are right, it is useless unless automated. But now I think about it, I'm not sure it isn't; many operations centers have a pretty sophisticated fire alarm system, so it would make sense to have the extinguishing system hooked to it.

To answer the original question of what extinguisher to use: I say none. Just bring along someone you don't like and throw them on the fire.

fastbaja5b 08.08.2010 12:06 AM

I just have a Fire Blanket here, never had to use it yet, even with me cooking!

Bazzokajoe 08.08.2010 04:52 AM

i'm so glad i had it handy...

already cleaned it... electrics out then into the shower ;)

then i took front and rear end off to make sure there wasnt any in the gearbox housings, its all fine...

hardcase would have prevented this... but probably would have been damaged...

battery box was at fault... need to get a new one and beef up the front...

thanks for all the help earlier in the year guys... i always have one handy when i bash... because... well... i'm not the best driver :P and i like doing stupid stuff :)

Arct1k 08.08.2010 09:26 AM

I was going to say that with how hard you guys bash you really need to beef up the boxes - You should line the bottom of the boxes with industrial velcro and then cover the bottom of the pack - The shear strength of velcro is bloody impressive.

I would also add there didn't really look like any need to let off the extinguisher on that pack - I'd have just removed it from car...

Will a extinguisher even work effectively on a lipo fire - I'm not sure if it even needs oxygen or if it isn't a chemical reaction between the layers within the battery.

revo madnesss 08.23.2010 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 376082)
I was going to say that with how hard you guys bash you really need to beef up the boxes - You should line the bottom of the boxes with industrial velcro and then cover the bottom of the pack - The shear strength of velcro is bloody impressive.

I would also add there didn't really look like any need to let off the extinguisher on that pack - I'd have just removed it from car...

Will a extinguisher even work effectively on a lipo fire - I'm not sure if it even needs oxygen or if it isn't a chemical reaction between the layers within the battery.

sadly i missed joe's epic crash but i have broken a lipo tray on my vorza aswell after a big nose dive :oops: the lipo broke the tray and went right into the steering assembly and now it has a massive dent in the front. now i have a extra battery strap which i ghetto fitted to the front so it holds it in place

this design looks quite good http://www.rc-area.co.uk/blog/wp-con...-for-revo3.jpg

JERRY2KONE 08.23.2010 06:39 AM

Prevention is the key.
 
As stated previously prevention is the key. It is our responsibility to learn from mistakes and events that happen to us and those that are shared on here. That is why we are here afterall. Try to imagine worst case cenarios and make preperations so they do not happen. Contain your lipos to the best of your ability.

As far as the fire extinguisher is concerned the only fire extingusiher truly recommended for any kind of electrical equipment is CO2, because it does not leave any residue that will damage the electronics, and it works instantly if used properly. Proper usage is to knock the flames down first, and if at all possible disconnect the elestrical source before trying to put the fire out in order to avoid an electrical shock of any kind. Otherwise it will just keep right on re-igniting itself over and over again. IF CO2 is not available you can use ABC, PKP, or just about any other kind of extinguisher that is available to put the fire out, but it will more than likely ruin whatever was on fire.

Honestly I like the idea of having a fire blanket on hand as well as a CO2 extinguisher. Basic fire fighting says the whole idea of any kind of fire fighting is to seperate one of the eliments from the fire.
(FUEL/OXIGEN/HEAT) Once you can achieve that the fire will go out.

BRIANG I like your resolution the best. Throw your enemy on the fire, problem solved.

Arct1k 08.23.2010 09:27 AM

Personally I've always found velcro on the bottom of the battery and the tray to work the best...

Bazzokajoe 08.23.2010 09:42 AM

gonna go for a new battery tray (obviously) and velcro the batteries in... got any reccomendations on good velcro? the stuff i have used before comes unstuck from the tray and is pretty useless...

JERRY2KONE 08.23.2010 10:21 AM

Try this one
 
Try using this one.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_184582-388-90593_0_?productId=1052627&Ntt=velcro&Ntk=i_produc ts&pl=1&currentURL=/pl__0__s?newSearch=true$Ntt=velcro

I use this one for allot of things and it holds up fairly well. You can also find all different types of strapping velcro for holding the batteries in the trays. Just Google velcro.

Arct1k 08.23.2010 11:23 AM

++1 - clean surface with alcohol before application...

I use hook on the tray and fuzzy on the batteries...

Bazzokajoe 08.23.2010 11:48 AM

awesome, thanks alot,

i do have some velcro battery straps in other vehicles, just always seemed easier to use the clips that came with it in my hyper...


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