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Chadworkz 05.17.2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew222 (Post 360318)
so why would I want to go get a 550 motor instead of sticking with a 540 motor? If I'm going to average using 200 watts, is there any point in going with a 550 motor that I can't get 800 watts out of?

Larger motors produce more torque.

hlb14 05.17.2010 12:16 PM

a local indoor offroad track is letting 1/8 run on a tight track but is limiting voltage to 2s, so i was thinking of trying one of the new ballistic 550's in a rc8 to try to compensate, would this work?

NovakTwo 05.17.2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hlb14 (Post 364952)
a local indoor offroad track is letting 1/8 run on a tight track but is limiting voltage to 2s, so i was thinking of trying one of the new ballistic 550's in a rc8 to try to compensate, would this work?

From our testing the Ballistic 550s work great in 1:8 scale on a tight track on 2S with a standard 1/10 controller.

hlb14 05.17.2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 364956)
From our testing the Ballistic 550s work great in 1:8 scale on a tight track on 2S with a standard 1/10 controller.

thanks!! just ordered a 5.5

NovakTwo 05.17.2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 364676)
Do you have an idea of what the approximate kv rating the 8.5 wind will be?

Bob is winding both (550) 8.5s and 9.5s to get closest to the Kvs requested. I'll post the Kvs when he tells me.

snellemin 05.17.2010 04:43 PM

Good to hear about the 8.5. What about the 3.5?

NovakTwo 05.17.2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 365020)
Good to hear about the 8.5. What about the 3.5?

I'm pretty sure that we will have a 3.5 replacement stator for the 550. These are repl stators (only) that I am describing. Actually, we can wind a few of any wind, like we do with the 540s. We even offer "light" stators for the 540s; although. I'm not sure anyone has ever ordered one.....

Chadworkz 05.17.2010 05:18 PM

I really wish kV/Turns were standardized, like;

(I know these are way off, but it shows what I mean)
2.0T=12,000kV
2.5T=11,500kV
3.0T=11,000kV
3.5T=10,500kV
4.0T=10,000kV
4.5T=9,500kV
5.0T=9,000kV
5.5T=8,500kV
6.0T=8,000kV
6.5T=7,500kV
7.0T=7,000kV
7.5T=6,500kV
8.0T=6,000kV
8.5T=5,500kV
9.0T=5,000kV
9.5T=4,500kV
10.0T=4,000kV
10.5T=3,500kV
11.0T=3,000kV
10.5T=2,500kV
10.0T=2,000kV

I know that each size motor would have different numbers, but you get my point...I hope.

NovakTwo 05.17.2010 07:02 PM

That would simplify things, but I don't think it is possible. Different manufacturers have different Kv readings for the same wind motors now. All of our Kv numbers are unloaded, so you would also need to know whether all the different companies measure the Kvs the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chadworkz (Post 365030)
I really wish kV/Turns were standardized, like;

(I know these are way off, but it shows what I mean)
2.0T=12,000kV
2.5T=11,500kV
3.0T=11,000kV
3.5T=10,500kV
4.0T=10,000kV
4.5T=9,500kV
5.0T=9,000kV
5.5T=8,500kV
6.0T=8,000kV
6.5T=7,500kV
7.0T=7,000kV
7.5T=6,500kV
8.0T=6,000kV
8.5T=5,500kV
9.0T=5,000kV
9.5T=4,500kV
10.0T=4,000kV
10.5T=3,500kV
11.0T=3,000kV
10.5T=2,500kV
10.0T=2,000kV

I know that each size motor would have different numbers, but you get my point...I hope.


simplechamp 05.18.2010 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 365029)
These are repl stators (only) that I am describing.

So If I wanted to get a 9.5T Ballistic 550 I'd have to buy one of the other already available complete motors and the replacement stator? I guess I could sell the original stator, but I'm not too keen on having to do that.

NovakTwo 05.18.2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 365169)
So If I wanted to get a 9.5T Ballistic 550 I'd have to buy one of the other already available complete motors and the replacement stator? I guess I could sell the original stator, but I'm not too keen on having to do that.

We will also be offering Build-A-Ballistic™ 550s later; this allows racers to customize a motor to their own liking. We will not offer as many options for the 550s (as the 540s) because we do not have as many choices. But you will be able to select:

~ wound stator, wind/Kv
~ rotor, standard or tuning
~ stainless steel or ceramic bearing (I think)
~ sensor harness length

This will cost somewhat more than the ready-built 550s; however, not as much as purchasing a motor and an extra wound stator.

simplechamp 05.19.2010 05:54 PM

I can deal with that! Ballistic 550, 9.5T stator, slightly larger diameter tuning rotor, ceramic bearings. I bet that would be great in my buggy, can't wait to try one.

NovakTwo 05.20.2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 365573)
I can deal with that! Ballistic 550, 9.5T stator, slightly larger diameter tuning rotor, ceramic bearings. I bet that would be great in my buggy, can't wait to try one.

Bob asked me last evening just what you guys plan to do with the low Kv Ballistic 550s; so, I'm asking....:wink:

He has wound, and measured, 3 different winds (verbal info):

8.5 @2500 Kv
9.5 2250 Kv
10.5 2000 Kv

So, how low does the Kv need to be? He said it could be a 11.5 before the Kv gets under 2000

He will be emailing me the actual numbers, but these should be pretty close.

Arct1k 05.20.2010 09:26 AM

I'm guessing people want to get up to 4s+ in either 4x4 SC or try using these again in 1/8th buggies...

FastXR 05.20.2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 365697)
I'm guessing people want to get up to 4s+ in either 4x4 SC or try using these again in 1/8th buggies...

That was my guess as well.


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