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rawfuls 01.10.2011 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitrzac (Post 393354)
I haven't read the thread, but the wall of text says that you guys are going at this waaaay too much...

hook them to the 5v rail and be done with it...

Well I'm trying to setup a switch that would differentiate from 5V to 12V, and Off.. and such.

It's a wall of text because I'm electrically stupid... :oops:

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EDIT:
Found a cool article while surfin' da webz.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article6-page1.html

Pretty much talks about how to get 5V, 7V, or 12V through a switch, without using diodes..

Are there any cons to that version over Brians?
Thanks guys, and sorry for the excessive questions!

rawfuls 01.12.2011 08:51 PM

Hey guys, was kinda bored in math class earlier today, so thought why not draw out what I'm gonna do?

Anyways, I still have a question; how many and what diodes will I need to drop a 12V connection to 5V?
Or how do I find how much voltage a diode will drop? So that way I can figure out which diode I will need...

Here's what I have so far...
A rough diagram:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...4/th_Scan1.jpg

simplechamp 01.12.2011 08:58 PM

Normal silicon diode is 0.7V forward voltage drop, so 12V to 5V is 7V drop, you'd need 10 diodes in series.

Why not just have the switch connected to the 5V rail in one position and the 12V rail in the other, and detent middle could be off.

rawfuls 01.12.2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 393648)
Normal silicon diode is 0.7V forward voltage drop, so 12V to 5V is 7V drop, you'd need 10 diodes in series.

Why not just have the switch connected to the 5V rail in one position and the 12V rail in the other, and detent middle could be off.

Being completely illiterate when it comes to components + electrical stuff, how do I wire that up on a normal SPDT switch? :oops:

What's_nitro? 01.12.2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawfuls (Post 393665)
Being completely illiterate when it comes to components + electrical stuff, how do I wire that up on a normal SPDT switch? :oops:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g4...id/SPSTFan.jpg

BrianG 01.12.2011 10:31 PM

Here are a couple more diagrams for 12v/7v and 12v/8.7v, whichever you prefer:

http://scriptasylum.com/forumpics/fanspeed1.gif

http://scriptasylum.com/forumpics/fanspeed2.gif

BrianG 01.12.2011 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 393672)

That will run the fan at 12v or 5v. The 5v setting may be too low for a 12v fan to even start, and even if it does, airflow will be so little it will probably be all but useless. 7v is about the lowest I'd personally go...

What's_nitro? 01.12.2011 10:35 PM

I was thinking about that- 5v might be too low to run the fan...

BrianG 01.12.2011 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawfuls (Post 393355)
Well I'm trying to setup a switch that would differentiate from 5V to 12V, and Off.. and such.

It's a wall of text because I'm electrically stupid... :oops:

--

EDIT:
Found a cool article while surfin' da webz.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article6-page1.html

Pretty much talks about how to get 5V, 7V, or 12V through a switch, without using diodes..

Are there any cons to that version over Brians?
Thanks guys, and sorry for the excessive questions!

You can actually get 3.3v, 5v, 7v, 8.7, and 12v from a PC supply, but from experience, the 7v, 8.7v, and 12v are the usable voltages. The diodes are only needed if you want something different than those values.

rawfuls 01.12.2011 10:36 PM

I've seen numerous tests running fans @ 5V, 7V, and 12V.
SilentPCReview.com being on of them.

I'm sure it wouldn't matter if I used + or - for the wire that goes through the switch, right?

What's_nitro? 01.12.2011 10:37 PM

Just in case you're wondering where the 3.3v wire is...

http://atxg4.com/images/ATX.jpg

What's_nitro? 01.12.2011 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rawfuls (Post 393678)
I'm sure it wouldn't matter if I used + or - for the wire that goes through the switch, right?

Aaaaacctualllyyy....... :lol:

It does. Either diagram would need to be hooked up exactly as pictured to work properly. :smile:

BrianG 01.12.2011 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawfuls (Post 393678)
I've seen numerous tests running fans @ 5V, 7V, and 12V.
SilentPCReview.com being on of them.

I'm sure it wouldn't matter if I used + or - for the wire that goes through the switch, right?

Well, 5v may work, but may not. You could temporarily wire the fan up to 5v and see if it starts reliably (may "grumble") and has the airflow you want before you make a more permanent switch setup.

BrianG 01.12.2011 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 393682)
Aaaaacctualllyyy....... :lol:

It does. Either diagram would need to be hooked up exactly as pictured to work properly. :smile:


That's correct!

What's_nitro? 01.12.2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 393684)
That's correct!

:lol: Where's my gold star sticker?


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