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roost 10.17.2011 08:51 PM

Looking good! hopefully Mr. Mike allows a few extras to be exchanged

are you making up custom dogbone(s) too?

RC-NUT 10.17.2011 09:19 PM

This setup uses the aftermarket flux center driveshafts.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...2&I=LXGPE9&P=K

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGPE8&P=M

I haven't ordered them yet or I would have drawn them in there.

Gdot 10.22.2011 09:01 AM

hey those are the same as a stock replacement so dont you still need longer ones? hpi measures pin to pin and those are measured pin to cup pin so they arent actually any longer than stock flux. i though they were also and ordered one a while ago to try on a flat chassis project i wanted to make, but it was the same as the 78 with the stock drive cup.
your chassis pics look good. must be a low kv motor you have

Gdot 10.22.2011 09:02 AM

i just figured out you maybe made the chassis plates shorter to make up for the more small center diff. is that right?

RC-NUT 10.22.2011 05:55 PM

Im using 2 of the rear drive shafts. When I started the project I centered the diff between the front and the rear and then measured the distance. I determined that 93mm was my sweet spot so I searched online for all available dog bones and universals of that size. It turned out the HPI drive shafts worked.

They arrived last night so I need to model them in solidworks and see how they fit.

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must be a low kv motor you have
The motor is a 1600kv

RC-NUT 10.29.2011 01:07 AM

Well you were right^^

The axles are too short. Back to the drawing board. I guess I will either eat the $40.00 and find some new dogbones or eat the $50 chassis and make a shorter one.

RC-NUT 11.04.2011 10:28 PM

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I finally have a few minutes to mess with the project. I decided to pull the CVD's out of my LST2 and what do you know.... They fit!! Well close anyway. The are just a hair too long and bind if they are straight. If I raise the center diff they seem to work nice.

I modeled them up tonight without moving the center diff yet. Here are some pics.

mothman 11.05.2011 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RC-NUT (Post 413615)
I finally have a few minutes to mess with the project. I decided to pull the CVD's out of my LST2 and what do you know.... They fit!! Well close anyway. The are just a hair too long and bind if they are straight. If I raise the center diff they seem to work nice.

I modeled them up tonight without moving the center diff yet. Here are some pics.

Hey bud, whats the length of the CVD? pin to pin..

RC-NUT 11.05.2011 01:05 PM

I need 93mm. (3.66 in)

The Losi cvd's are 3.835 in.

After working on this last night I don't like it. The diff needs to move way up. I'll look for another dogbone or change things around.

mothman 11.05.2011 02:58 PM

Is this the front or the rear? Do you have the other measurement as well?

RC-NUT 11.05.2011 11:58 PM

That was for both. I have the diff centered in the chassis.

mothman 11.06.2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RC-NUT (Post 413641)
That was for both. I have the diff centered in the chassis.

No what I meant was the measurement for front or rear of LST2 CVD.. Or do they have same CVD for front and rear?

roost 11.06.2011 01:02 PM

Is this set up for stock length or xl?

RC-NUT 11.27.2011 10:08 PM

The LST2 shafts are the same length for the front and rear. It would have been sweet if they fit.

This is going to be a standard length build.

Design #2 is under way. I've flipped the motor 180 deg so it's now in the front of the truck. I think that will be better for weight distribution. I'm also working on a new bracket layout. The heavy duty Flux CVD will be in the rear and a 110mm dogbone will be in the front.

RC-NUT 02.14.2012 11:34 PM

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It's been a while since I updated this post so I thought I would share my progress.

I'm working on the second concept now that is a lot stronger and probably over-kill but that's what makes it fun. My Kershaw tranny would constantly bend hardware from the weight of the motor & tranny.

I changed the hardware from 4-40 to 6-32 screws and all parts are machined from 1/4" 6061-T6 stock. It won't be light but hopefully less than my last 14.8pound Flux. The motor mount changed from vertical slots to a pivot. Easier to mesh and less chance of slipping.

Did I mention the motor also flipped 180 deg and is now in the front of the truck above the servo? The shorter universal will be in the rear where most of the torque is applied. More weight balance to help with traction as well.


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