ok, so the general thinking is both... :neutral:

reason i was asking is because i just aquired a 'grenade' ESC for a pretty reasonable price, (schulze 18.97 kw) and it is supposed to go well with the Pberg, but now the MMM is about to be released i thought maybe get the Pberg and run with the schulze until the MMM ESC is out, then change to that.

But if the Neu's are more better :mdr: than the Pbergs in general, i might as well just wait for the MMM... i'm lost

thanks for the help, any more feedback would be appreciated
jordan

Geared appropriately, either one should suit your needs just fine. Just watch temps and adjust accordingly. Neus can run great up to and over 40k rpm, but don't know what rpms are considered "ideal" for the pletty's ("Max" rpm is not necessarily the "ideal" rpm).

They say the Plets are capable of 70K rpms, but that is just what the rotor can go up to. When and if my controllers gets done, I will buy a Plet just to see how it does.

Yeah, I can see tht Kevlar wrapped rotor being capable of higher rpm's for sure, but I am sure 70K's is not practical, anyway you look at it.

With the Plett., you are basically limited to the one Kv. of 2300 like Niel said. With the Neu's, you have much more diversity, and I am sure they are more efficient as well.

The Neu 15xx series is supposed to get up to 60k rpm, but again, that is probably the rotor/bearing limit. I don know the Neus don't mind higher rpms at all, and are quite tolerant to improper gearing (to a point)...

Oh, I know... they are a 'dream come true' motor, they don't care about gearing, and love the rpm's, unlike others motors, typically (up to a point like you said).

I would like to get a 1500Kv. Neu and test it out on 40 volts for 60,000rpm operation in a MT application. I think a 1509, to keep the current levels in check.

I ran my Neu 1521 1y with 10S lipos and it was incredible. I also ran a few times the Align 600L and I have to say that the Align had more torque. I could do wheelies with my BPP truggy, but I was using a 100A 10S controller that had incredible throttle response. I'll see if I have time to make a video of the Neu 1521 1y with my 10S lipos.

i've been using the maximum with fan (not the bigmaximum) in my revo with great success... never gets hot and insane power... to top it off, they are by far the best looking things you can put in a car...:yes:

I have to agree with abiye on that the pletti's are definitely the best looking motors available. However, I haven't had experience with the Neu or Pletti so I can't help you decide which one to get.

IMO, I think the Neu's are better looking... come on, how can you beat the look of that pitch black finned can like that. :intello:

i agree with abiye, love the look of those Plettenbergs :mdr:

imho the plettis are just awesome motors. :yes:

http://62.2.107.106/~beat/images/25-...jan07_(41).jpg

Yeah, they are nice motors for sure.

But i prefer Neu. They seem to be more efficient and broadly available in the US.

Once castle creations launches their Neu/MMM combo the brushless world will change.

if i was living in the us i would probably pick a neu too.
if they are more efficient....hard to believe.
as the mamba max works great with a plettenberg i hope the monster version will do the same. so that will hopefully be a very nice and broad usable controller.

bye
rhylsadar

http://62.2.107.106/~beat/images/25-...jan07_(41).jpg
I'll take the one on the right, thats plenty for my needs! Price wise, ICare-rc sells the BM for $347, whilst the M with fan is $279. So, a bit more pricey than the Neus, but nice motors all the same.