Your right about that it's the gorilla or tool, but I want a screw that will last, and what I meant by weaker was it stripped out more easily than some steel kits, I'm not very easy on my rc's and they break alot so I need a screw that won't strip after very little use. I don't want to put anybodys opinion down but I'm sort of leaning towards steel.

I know Jamie is working on FLM screw-kits. They use REAL 12.9 grade screws..

Cool, Any Idea on a release date?

Nope, i can't seem to get it touch with Jamie anymore. Maybe you can try.

Toe stepping?
Hell no,
People make their decisions and run with them. What best for one person or project isnt best for another. Its great that there are several QUALITY companies for us to choose from. Quite honestly, Im not using my own screws on my Gorilla project. Not because of any quality issues, they simply dont fit my needs. I choose Tonys for the project.

Why?
Quality screws that are BLACK.
I didn't want SS Bling on an all black ano chassis.

I have never been let down by RCS, Tony, or Hex.
Choose what works for you.

True dat. Personally, I do wrench on mine alot and change things a good bit, but if you aren't some brute about it and use good tools, you shouldn't even strip aluminum screws, much less stainless steel.

Eddy, I think SS screws on an all black chassis would look pretty good actually. Kinda opposite the usual since its usually a silver chassis and black screws.

Thanks for being open minded - I've been in several sh** storms on other forums over screws. Some folks get very worked up about screws! Maybe passionate is a better description??

I'm an ME (31yrs exp), so the tech side colors things a bit for me and my choices. I do have an HB Lightning Pro1 that's done up with SS button heads and purple collars for bling.

SCREW EM! :whistle:

Ive been in business and in the human race way to long to know that one shoe doesn't fit every foot. I do have my opinions but understand that they are just that, mine.

:rofl::rofl:

FYI, stainless steel is "stainless" because of the addition of chromium. This has a side effect that it cannot be heat treated like 12.9 steel (which gives it strength), but conversely 12.9 is more prone to becoming rusty (which explains why they always coat it with something).