It will actually weigh 3lbs more with it fully converted. It weighed 31lbs with the gas engine and a full tank of gas. I calculated it to weigh around 35-36lbs loaded with the pb's, giant brushed motor and the esc. but it should have a significant power increase so its worth it.

how will the suspension handle the extra 3lbs or so? i dont guess that 3lbs is that big of a deal when it already weighs 31+ ....

Its at full rebound under 31lbs of load. And all four shocks can be adjusted 1in lower on the barrel to make it rebound faster. I would think it would handle 40lbs.

Ok guys yet another new plan/idea.... I ditched the tranny and will be going directly off the center diff. But heres the catch. I will not be running a setup you guys are thinking of with a pinion meshing with the diff gear. I removed the diff gear completly. I will be running chain drive. I will purchase both the pinion sproket gear and the center diff sproket gear here- http://www.electricscooterparts.com/sprockets.html I will be buying a 11t #25 chain 8mm bore and a 14t #25 chain 8mm bore sproket.

Also here is the final specs of this setup...

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...finalspecs.jpg


I also found some really cheap wire "10awg-8awg" for this project- http://www.electricscooterparts.com/wire.html

Sounds good. Have you looked into spending a little extra $$$ on A123 cells and making a nice pack out of them. I know a 10,000mAh 25-30C 10S lipo packs would weigh about the same or less then the lead acid packs. Get your self a good ESC that will handle the current loads and your set.

Looks like its coming along good so far Ryan, although I still think you should just leave it a gasser......

And that motor you showed me on AIM is a beast.......:lol:

I think Im stuck on PB's because of how cheap they are and how easy they are to maintain. I found a 100a HV ESC on Bidproducts website for $30. Its 10s capable so that should work fine. I will be using Mech brakes aswell.

This motor? :lol:

http://www.technobots.co.uk/acatalog/pop-1470-032.jpg

Yeah, yeah, that's the one! :rofl:

Will the PB's handle the current load though. Here is a nice little video to show you how a starting battery pack made of A123 cells does: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyYBh4ec05c. Here you can see that they want to be rich real fast :lol:: http://www.tekbattery.com/battery_prices.html. All you need is 4 of the DeWalt packs and do a 10S4P set up. Will pay for itself down the road. A 9200mAh, 36V A123 packs will put out 276A continuous and 552A max if needed and will weigh much less then the PBs you plan on using.

If I had to choose some motors, I would go with the following with 8mm shaft:

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...MT-W63H2_198kv
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...utrunner_193Kv
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...MT-W63K2_195kv

Now these have 12mm shaft, but would also be good motors for this project:

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...ner_(eq:_70-40)
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...ner_(eq:_70-55)
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...ner_(eq:_70-55)

Look at those wimpy wires...

Im already getting the brushed behemoth motor. The 100a HV ESC will also be on my list and the PB's will most likely be my choice. Im on a budget.

Will the brushless ESC work with the brushed motor?

Thats what Im going to find out. For $30 its worth a shot.

Trying to send you a pm lutach. Empty your pm box.:yes:

It won't work. For that ESC to work with a brushed motor it needs the appropriate software. I have that ESC that was sent as a test unit from Suppo (The manufacturer) and they keep everything simple, so it won't have the software I mentioned. and it won't work at all with a brushed motor. If you're on a budget and try it, it'll be costly as you spent the $$ on the motor and the batteries. If you go with the options I showed you, you'll spend a little more $$$, but it'll work.

My e-mail address is: brasuca2478@hotmail.com.

What "brushed" ESC would you reccomend that is budget and that will handle 36v?

E-mail sent to your addy. Please check lutach.

I would go with the following:

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=hl-je600n
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...od=rch-vic1032

Got it and replied. Let me know what you think.

Im liking the 2nd ESC you linked me. Im more interested in the custom suppo esc though.

Give it a shot and let me know how it goes.

I put that post up on RCG lutach. We'll see how it goes...

And if any of you guys are interested in contributing to the other thread on RCG please feel free to- http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=924014

Alright you guys, new update... Talked to lutach today and hes getting me a deal on a 5th scale brushless setup for a fair price. 80mm x 105mm outrunner with 90% efficiency and 176kv along with a 100a HV 10s ESC. I cannot wait to start this project.

Heres a couple pics of the behemoth outrunner & the ESC...

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...untitled-2.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...U/bigmotor.jpg

Now the only problem is how I am going to make a mount that will handle the stress of the torque the the outrunner puts out and not bend/deform without spending a fortune...

Hmm.. We should compare notes on finished vehicles.

Rather than go with a motor and esc designed for RC products, I'm going to use the 100-amp 48v speed controller and Hall Effect throttle normally used for pocket bikes (total price $45.00). Since the throttle assembly itself is $5, I took one apart yesterday and think it's definitely feasible to use the normal throttle servo to control it's motion. Since I already have (2) 6S 4000mah Lipos, I'm going to use them in series. Just scouting for a nice 1/5 chassis to put all this stuff in!!

I certainly don't mean to hijack this thread. Reading it gave me the idea and I figure I'll just follow along for the sake of comparison. Obviously we'll all benefit from different ideas being posted.

Kind of hard to resist combining the two hobbies since I've dabbled quite a bit in both.. here's some pics of the brushless motor/controller I'm using in my fastest pocket bike now. As well.. here's a modified version of the $45 controller running at a slightly higher voltage..

Wow you guys! Looks great. That outrunner is the size of a 3040 or a 2215!! (Basically the 2 best choices for 1/5 conversions)
Should do very well!

Thats what Im hoping deisel.:yes:

Takedown, that is one sweet looking outrunner! :yes: Is that Axi or "?"?

Killajb, that's an E-Tek brushless right? Do you use the full 15HP in that pocket bike of yours??? :oh:

Decided to stick with the 7.1hp brushed motor instead because im getting it for free anyways.... Thinking I should pick up a Hydros HV90 from OSE for $100.

What's_Nitro: Yes, that's an Etek motor and you betcha I'm using all 15hp it's capable of! My pocket dirt bike is based off of a 70cc frame and I can do 45mph on any surface, including up hills. It's almost scary because if you twist a hand-full of throttle from a standstill the front wheel starts to raise up.. with your feet already on the pegs!

Betting those are hella pricey?

Honestly, not really considering two factors:

a) what you get for the money
b) the general cost of hi-end RC equivalent stuff. My Neu 1515 2.5d costs 2/3 as much as this beast did!

Most people come buy Neu motors because they want the best performance available for their RC vehicles and are willing to pay the price for what they get in return. Likewise, the Etek motor is considered THE motor to have for pocket bike enthusiasts. I've already thought of trying to do a twin-motor deal in something like a four-wheeler...

Whoa! So I can guess it's around $400?