RC-Monster Forums

RC-Monster Forums (https://www.rc-monster.com/forum/index.php)
-   HPI Savage (https://www.rc-monster.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=30)
-   -   HPI: Savage Flux on the way? 8th scale electric savage (https://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16899)

Joram 12.01.2008 02:26 PM

yes, but we aren't stupid, CC 4 ever!!:yipi:

Greetz,
Joram

brushlessboy16 12.01.2008 04:15 PM

Looks like they havent updated to the V3 MMM's the blur? thats a dumb name :D

http://av.hpieurope.com/graphics/kit...geFlux_009.jpg
http://av.hpieurope.com/graphics/kit...geFlux_018.jpg
http://www.hpieurope.com/graphics/ki...eFlux_017a.jpg
http://av.hpieurope.com/graphics/kit...geFlux_019.jpg


I do like those motor mounts. Looks like a nice truck

mkrusedc 12.01.2008 05:09 PM

If you had a choice for bashing the BL E-Revo or this Savage? I have only run a REVO. Never drove a Savage....

MetalMan 12.01.2008 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 237828)
Looks like they havent updated to the V3 MMM's

That should be a MMM V3 - V1 had no plugs on the ESC, V2 had only plugs on the ESC, earlier V3s had all plugs on the ESC, and newer V3s should have wires on the battery side an plugs on the motor side.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrusedc (Post 237837)
If you had a choice for bashing the BL E-Revo or this Savage? I have only run a REVO. Never drove a Savage....

That's a tough one... If HPI had given this truck a proper longer chassis like it will NEED, then I would take this truck. In my experience the Savage just seems more of a beast, more authoritative.

brushlessboy16 12.01.2008 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalMan (Post 237841)
That should be a MMM V3 - V1 had no plugs on the ESC, V2 had only plugs on the ESC, earlier V3s had all plugs on the ESC, and newer V3s should have wires on the battery side an plugs on the motor side.

My new v3 came with all bullets:neutral:

A RC Dude 12.01.2008 06:09 PM

looks to me like the speed and grip come from the tires. lol those things ballon like crazy! and thay look real flat and soft

BrianG 12.01.2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 237843)
My new v3 came with all bullets:neutral:

Maybe yours was a V3.1, and the newer ones were V3.2? :smile:

brushlessboy16 12.01.2008 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A RC Dude (Post 237852)
looks to me like the speed and grip come from the tires. lol those things ballon like crazy! and thay look real flat and soft

They used Phatlines on the speed runs with a huge pinion on 6s.. gotta read the fine print:yes:
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 237855)
Maybe yours was a V3.1, and the newer ones were V3.2? :smile:

:neutral:

suicideneil 12.01.2008 08:15 PM

I kinda like it, though its definately not as authoritive as my truck, har har har...

Only thing that would concern me is the rather small battery boxes- they look quite long and deep, but only wide enough for 5000mah 2s lipos really- Im sure some clever sods will come up with bigger ones though without much hassle. A longer aftermarket chassis shouldnt be too much trouble either, just a case of stretching the existing design and shifting mounting points as needed, a la FLM aftermarket chassis designs etc etc.

Nice truck, but Im happy with my one :yes:

brushlessboy16 12.01.2008 08:27 PM

Who came up with the name, its cheezy... the Flux Blur

You would probably get more attention if you marketed it as the actual CC products.

MTBikerTim 12.01.2008 08:36 PM

Personally I like the shorter chassis for bashing. Easier to to backflips and other tricks. I am interested to see what the configuration of the tranny is.

Woot I just realised there are no mechanical brakes it's a single speed woot.

TexasSP 12.01.2008 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 237920)
Who came up with the name, its cheezy... the Flux Blur

You would probably get more attention if you marketed it as the actual CC products.

You may be too young, but I get a kick out of the name Blur, like on the Little Rascals movie!

Then when they release a 10-12s version it can be called the Blur II, The Sequel.........

This truck does nothing but get me excited, oh what 2009 will behold us all. I am sure a Losi LST BL version will pop up as well.

Finnster 12.01.2008 11:15 PM

GG TRX...

Now how easy would it be to take that tranny and put it my XL :)

Joram 12.02.2008 03:22 AM

I'm gonna buy that tranny for mij FLM savage.
I think the FLM bl savage is still much better, but that's just my 2 cents:wink:

Greetz,
Joram

DRIFT_BUGGY 12.02.2008 06:26 AM

Wonder how much more HPI will sell the Blur for over the MMM

suicideneil 12.02.2008 01:16 PM

Im thinking it wont be sold seperately, as its an integral part of the truck- not the same as buying the MMM system and sticking it in any truck you please... (thats my theory anyway).

Joram 12.02.2008 01:48 PM

what's that for stupid idea??

Offcourse it can be bought seperately, thinking of spare???
And it can be used un many other trucks, it's just the same as the Teckno motors...

Greetz,
Joram

DRIFT_BUGGY 12.02.2008 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 238157)
Im thinking it wont be sold seperately, as its an integral part of the truck- not the same as buying the MMM system and sticking it in any truck you please... (thats my theory anyway).

Why can you buy the Flux system on its own?
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVUT9&P=7

suicideneil 12.02.2008 04:36 PM

Curious. Given these are just re-badged castle systems, its kinda strange that HPI would sell them serperately- surely castle would make more money from selling their systems with their badges seperately and only allowing other companies to sell them as part of the whole rtr truck package? My main thought is that if the CC system is cheaper than the rebadged system, then HPI wont make too much from selling them seperately (especially after CC gets their slice so to speak)? If however the hpi version undercuts the CC version, then CC just shot themselves in the foot a tad...

I am well aware either HPI system can be used in any truck though Joram, but that wasnt my point- I was thinking about marketing rather than compatibility... :wink:

Finnster 12.02.2008 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 238230)
Curious. Given these are just re-badged castle systems, its kinda strange that HPI would sell them serperately- surely castle would make more money from selling their systems with their badges seperately and only allowing other companies to sell them as part of the whole rtr truck package? My main thought is that if the CC system is cheaper than the rebadged system, then HPI wont make too much from selling them seperately (especially after CC gets their slice so to speak)? If however the hpi version undercuts the CC version, then CC just shot themselves in the foot a tad...

I am well aware either HPI system can be used in any truck though Joram, but that wasnt my point- I was thinking about marketing rather than compatibility... :wink:

IDK, why does General Motors sell 4 versions of the same car?

I think for one is for people who want the OEM replacement for their truck if its damaged, or only casual knowledge of BL systems. This could be hobby shops as well that do customer repairs. Plus I think HPI (or TRX) would want their name on it for notoriety. I'm sure they are paying castle a decent amt of money for licensing of the system, as well as the name change. No matter what system is purchased, castle wins.

At the end of the day, big congrats to Castle for getting a solid and affordable 1/8th BL package out and getting the OEMs to license it. There have been other vendors around for a while sitting on their asses not getting this done. How long have we spent putting various pieces together to make these things ourselves? All other vendors had strengths, but no one had all the pieces together until castle. WTF Novak (and Tekin) has been doing all this time is beyond me. Now castle is going to clean up as these things start to take off.

Granted, the whole 1/8th market has benefited greatly from RCM Mike's work and our work here, basically doing free R&D on setups for a while now. Basically the market is copying what we've already figured out and proven to be reliable.

jhautz 12.02.2008 05:04 PM

I like the simple motor mount. It looks like a couple bands that wrap around the 40mm motor and then are adjusted with then nitro motor mount slots. Simple.

suicideneil 12.02.2008 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnster (Post 238243)
Granted, the whole 1/8th market has benefited greatly from RCM Mike's work and our work here, basically doing free R&D on setups for a while now. Basically the market is copying what we've already figured out and proven to be reliable.

Amen. I just wander how long it will be before someone releases a direct drive vehicle- we should patent more of our ideas... :yes::lol:

MTBikerTim 12.02.2008 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnster (Post 238243)
IDK, why does General Motors sell 4 versions of the same car?

I think for one is for people who want the OEM replacement for their truck if its damaged, or only casual knowledge of BL systems. This could be hobby shops as well that do customer repairs. Plus I think HPI (or TRX) would want their name on it for notoriety. I'm sure they are paying castle a decent amt of money for licensing of the system, as well as the name change. No matter what system is purchased, castle wins.

At the end of the day, big congrats to Castle for getting a solid and affordable 1/8th BL package out and getting the OEMs to license it. There have been other vendors around for a while sitting on their asses not getting this done. How long have we spent putting various pieces together to make these things ourselves? All other vendors had strengths, but no one had all the pieces together until castle. WTF Novak (and Tekin) has been doing all this time is beyond me. Now castle is going to clean up as these things start to take off.

Granted, the whole 1/8th market has benefited greatly from RCM Mike's work and our work here, basically doing free R&D on setups for a while now. Basically the market is copying what we've already figured out and proven to be reliable.

It is also for distribution reasons. You can get HPI parts in a lot more places then you can Castle parts. Castle will not care if HPI sell them seperately as Castle is still selling the escs. I also Congratulate castle for their OEM deals.

Takedown 12.02.2008 10:32 PM

Now on HPI's site- http://www.hpiracing.com/kitinfo/100646/

Gdot 12.02.2008 11:13 PM

listing
 
http://www.rcplanet.com/HPI_Savage_F.../hpi100646.htm

Nautilus 12.03.2008 01:46 AM

This thing looks *way* better built than the E-Revo or an E-maxx. I have a 3905 E-maxx and frankly I was disappointed at how flimsy it feels, especially the chassis. The plastic used in the suspension is incredibly soft too (yes I understand the need for some flex in a basher, but it's just too much). It is way too easy to strip out. And the shocks, well frankly they were the first thing I pulled off. Don't get me wrong, the 3905 E-maxx is a fine basher, but this Savage just looks so much more serious.

When I got the E-maxx I was expecting to get something as hefty and well-machined as my nitro Revo (which I have hardly run because of my impatience with nitro), but I was definitely disappointed. The E-maxx performs fine, but when you shell out that much money you should get something that has the high quality, machined feel to it IMO, not some piece of molded plastic. It makes it more enjoyable and easier to work on as well, IMO.

Anyway, wish I had waited on my brushless MT.

Rnemhrd 12.03.2008 09:44 PM

I have to much in my E maxx now to get rid of it now, but if this truck is anything like the savage x that would make it as strong as a well modded E maxx, and twice as fast. Way better deal IMO. They beat the s__t out of it in the video. Ever see traxxas do that? A true blue basher.

JThiessen 12.03.2008 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rnemhrd (Post 238660)
I have to much in my E maxx now to get rid of it now, but if this truck is anything like the savage x that would make it as strong as a well modded E maxx, and twice as fast. Way better deal IMO. They beat the s__t out of it in the video. Ever see traxxas do that? A true blue basher.

Actually, yes - every weekend with my converted Revo, as I'm sure many others will attest to. The video really wasnt anything special. I'm not trying to downplay the durability of this HPI, just sticking up for our most popular brand a little.

Finnster 12.03.2008 11:50 PM

IDK, I hated my emaxx. Unreliable moneypit and always broke. Nearly quit RC over it.

Revo was much better, but difficult to work on in a lot of little ways, and a bit of a money pit too. Taking out the diffs is like brain surgery compared to other 1/8ths, plus they are far weaker and harder to tune w/ oil (as it needs to be so heavy due to silly design.) I really don't like the suspension setup anymore. Rocker posts bend easy, as can pushrods, and shocks are hard to get just right for our heavy electrics.The shocks just seem a bit undersized. A single large shock on a tower is so much simpler and tougher imo.

So far I am highly impressed w/ my Savvy. Extremely tough and far easier to work on than I ever thought. Its had lots of updates over the years, but its a pretty solid truck. Diffs are easy to get to, tranny can be serviced easy. So far nothing has been difficult to do and has lived through some tough driving w/o complaint.

Not trying to make it a Trx vs HPI thing, but in my experience I would highly recommend a Sav over a Revo for a basher, and a nearly any truggy over a Revo for racing. Revo seems a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none sort of truck. Granted I ran mine over two years and enjoyed it, but there are better trucks. I would have gotten rid of it but now I'm contemplating redoing it into a slayer. Seems like a good retirement for it.

joeling 12.04.2008 04:24 AM

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/a...1&d=1228144859

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/a...2&d=1228144859

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/a...3&d=1228144859

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/a...4&d=1228144859

[IMG]ttp://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=83685&d=1228144859[/IMG]

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/a...9&d=1228145007

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/a...0&d=1228145007

rhylsadar 12.04.2008 05:04 AM

hmm dude there was a link on page 3 that showed us all those pics. :sleep:

i would like to see a pic of the opened tranny.

bye
rhylsadar

Nautilus 12.04.2008 11:39 AM

anyone concerned about the lack of airflow over the motor?

bl-is-future 12.04.2008 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 238823)
anyone concerned about the lack of airflow over the motor?

nope with the combo and the lightness of the truck it shouldnt have a problem at all. I ran the combo in my FLM 15+ pound savy with not heat problems what so ever.

bruce750i 12.04.2008 02:02 PM

Looks like the battery bays can be removed and replaced with bigger ones, maybe an upgrade package or something.

wayneb 12.05.2008 01:40 AM

when is the release date going to be does anybody know?

drkdgglr 12.05.2008 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayneb (Post 239032)
when is the release date going to be does anybody know?

january 19th according to amain: http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/32813

bl-is-future 12.05.2008 09:33 AM

i will def be getting one in jan then. See how it compares to my old FLM Savy conversion.

Rnemhrd 12.05.2008 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 238676)
Actually, yes - every weekend with my converted Revo, as I'm sure many others will attest to. The video really wasnt anything special. I'm not trying to downplay the durability of this HPI, just sticking up for our most popular brand a little.

I was refering to traxxas PR videos. Has traxxas ever put out a video where they (traxxas) beat a truck like that? If so please show it, I would like to see it.Also is your revo stock with no rpm parts added? Some nice jumps in the snow, and a tame jump down some stairs is about it.

bl-is-future 12.05.2008 09:44 AM

Not to offend anyone but i will give my taxxas experiance.
Owned the below and my opinion -
Jato 3.3 = junk (only good on flat surface)
T-maxx/E-maxx = decent but dont beat on to hard
Slash = total beast and love it.
4tec = sick, just sick

So i am 2 for 2 with traxxas. I here the revo is the best of the bunch but i have also heard the savage is tougher. It is all on what you want i guess. The savage has always fit my needs as a basher and a racer for that matter. OH and the video is not lying you can do that to a savage and it will just come back for more. that is stock too.

Arct1k 12.05.2008 10:03 AM

Actually they did do a huge 60ft backflip jump over a set of railway tracks - the first time they didn't even land it...

Video isn't on the site anymore but they did do it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rnemhrd (Post 239089)
I was refering to traxxas PR videos. Has traxxas ever put out a video where they (traxxas) beat a truck like that? If so please show it, I would like to see it.Also is your revo stock with no rpm parts added? Some nice jumps in the snow, and a tame jump down some stairs is about it.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:52 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.