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Sylvester 12.25.2005 11:00 AM

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Heres a pic of mine, the rear end isnt put together cause i didnt get a needed set of washers, im covered by mike though:)

Sylvester 12.25.2005 11:01 AM

^Theres a little custom work needed, not made for first time builders;)^

crazyjr 12.25.2005 12:11 PM

yeah but not difficult, but it helps th have disassembled a revo before. I talked to Mike about the straps being too big for the slits and he assured me that they will fit, but are tight

crazyjr 01.02.2006 01:54 PM

I ran my G2R at the track yesterday after i moved the esc and turned the transmission around(spur to front), while its still front heavy it is better. Since i can't move anything else, i need a good starting setup to prevent the nose heavy attitude. I need some advise on a good setup from those with experience with E-Revo. any advise is apriciated

Sylvester 01.02.2006 01:58 PM

Well, your running 12 cells right? If your running the packs to the forward position , put it to the rear position, if you already have your batts placed more to the rear, than i dont know what to say, maybe make a little weight out of somthing to even it out, or try losing some weight with pillow balls, and turnbuckles in front so its a bit lighter up there.

crazyjr 01.02.2006 02:11 PM

already have the batteries in rear and esc and tranny towards the rear( backwards) still nose heavy, but not as bad

squeeforever 01.02.2006 02:47 PM

crazy-what kind of track do you run? big jumps? tight turns? long straights? how much does it weigh?

crazyjr 01.02.2006 02:53 PM

oval like small trackwith a medium to small type jump and a triple woop-de-do that i can double single.

cool i created a 4 page thread

squeeforever 01.02.2006 02:58 PM

i would go with about 40 weight oil, gold springs in the front and green in the rear with p2 rockers, all 4 caster clips in the front (arms all the way back), 1-1 1/2 degrees of camber in the front, 0-1/2 in the rear, slight toe out in the front with a slight toe-in in the rear and of coarse, the one that shouldnt have to be said, arms level. thats just a starting point but should be pretty close.

crazyjr 01.02.2006 03:03 PM

I'm satisfied with the steering for now, so i'm not going to mess with the toe and caster right now but i'll try the suspension ideas you mentioned. as for weight, it is a little heavier than a nitro revo so it is a little sluggish on the suspension

squeeforever 01.02.2006 05:14 PM

you might want to check out what steve slayden says to do to them. just go to traxxas' website and look at how he says to set it up as well as the steering modifications and stuff.

crazyjr 01.02.2006 05:28 PM

I have done half of the steering mod but the wheels are rubbing the steering linkage so no need for more steering.I don't think Slayden's setup would work because of the distribution of weight is different from nitro. I think its going to need an all new setup from nitro, maybe different from the revo conversions just looking for ideas from those with experience. Thankyou for the suggestions and any others that contribute ideas. I'm wanting to see what others are doing to get a direction for the new chassis and if Mike wants to give his G2R setup to the discussion that would really help

Batfish 01.02.2006 08:02 PM

I don't know much of Mike's G2R setup, but I did wrench for him a bit at Monster Madness III in CT back in October when he ran the prototype G2R. This was the truck that can be found in pictures here in another thread, and was also pictured on Traxxas' website in a Slayden article.
For batteries, he ran 5s (2s and 3s packs) 3200 Kokam/FMA lipo packs. The 2s pack was on the motor side and the 3s pack was on the opposite side. The packs were held in with Gorilla straps.
The controller was mounted along the center line of the chassis.
For tires, he started with Response tires and switched to BowTies.
I rebuilt the shocks with 50wt all around...I don't remember the springs.
I swapped from some aluminum (Integy, I think) rockers to the Traxxas P2 rockers.

It's not a whole lot of information, but I hope it's useful. :)

This was during the qualifying day (Saturday) - he may have changed more for the race day (Sunday).

crazyjr 01.02.2006 08:18 PM

thanks Batfish. I wasn't sure of his setup thanks. BTW i love your signature, makes sense

Electric Dave 01.03.2006 09:51 PM

Crazyjr - Thanks for the track reports! So comparing the G2R to the E-Maxx, what are some of the main handling differences on the track? What is better? Anything worse? Thanks for your feedback.

DM

pcnutz 01.03.2006 10:00 PM

I mounted my rx pack to the rear on the other side of my motor on the battery tray, you prolly run ubec but its movable wieght to help balance. I am going to run the springs recomended for the LT rockers with my P2 rockers and use 60 in the front and 55 or 50 in rear, I have not had much testing been raining
http://users.adelphia.net/~tjjohnson2/g2r.jpg

RC-Monster Mike 01.03.2006 10:23 PM

Pro 2 rockers for sure. I like 60-70 weight oil a little better than the 50 weight, too. Also, I used the stiffest pro2 springs available on the back, and the next stiffest springs on the front. I may try the same spring rate front and rear, though(the G2R turns WAAAY better than a Nitro Revo). I also use an aluminum servo saver(part of an Integy SS, with the proline single arm) and the stock SS spring(heavy duty with the aluminum saver parts is too stiff-no "saving" involved!). I like my ride height just above arms level for a rough track, and as low as possible on a smooth track.
Bowties work great. I actually like a modified 40 series bowtie the best(trim the rim to make it similar in size to the regular bowtie, but with less sidewall and less weight!).

Hope this helped a little.

Sylvester 01.03.2006 10:51 PM

Mike, would you think blue springs in front with 80 wt oil and 80wt green in rea is good for a 14 cells brushed g2r?


thanks.

crazyjr 01.03.2006 10:55 PM

Thank you mike. And yes it does turn in better than the revo before. As far as handling compared to an Emaxx, i can only compare to a stock E, but it is way better in the suspension dept., more travel, more stability and more funand i haven't found a good setup. I'm only running the titans and a EVX and 12 cells and i can see the potential for nitro domination. Next step is a BL systemand good batteries (mine are junk)I'm leaning towards a 9XL with a warrior bk and a pair of scorpion 6400's should put it in the 35mph range and close to 40 min. run time. I don't want to break records, I want to play with nitro's and winand this chassis can do it. major props to Mike and Gorilla for making this truck a reality.

can only do one at a time but heres a few

crazyjr 01.03.2006 11:02 PM

here is another

crazyjr 01.03.2006 11:04 PM

and one more. sorry for the quality but they are from a cell phone. Will have good pictures soon

pcnutz 01.04.2006 12:45 PM

I put silver on the front and blue on the back, I like the springs but my 60 in front and 50 in back need to to go like 75 in front and 65 in rear, or 80-70, I bottomed out too much, but was not bouncy

crazyjr 01.04.2006 05:54 PM

Aren't those the LT springs?

The nose heavy problem i have may not be. the jump on my track that I was getting the problem with is profiled different from one side to the other, I tryed it from a different side and it flew perfect. I just need more power to find more problems. Thanks for the advise and i will try everything mentioned

pcnutz 01.04.2006 06:16 PM

I am still bottoming out, with the LT springs, do they have heavier sets?

squeeforever 01.04.2006 06:30 PM

yes. look in your owners manuel and it tells you the spring rate of all the springs.

Sylvester 01.04.2006 08:43 PM

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RC-Monster Mike 01.04.2006 09:18 PM

It is perfectly OK to bottom out. That is why they call the bottom "skid plates" :)
In fact, the perfect track setup will usually bottom on the the biggest jump, but soak up the rest. If you set it up to not bottom out on the big jumps, it will usually handle the light stuff much worse(too stiff). If you are just jumping, then add 100 weight oil and some stiff springs and have at it.

Crazy - I don't find the g2R front heavy at all, really. Mine flies straight and true. The turning is impressive for the long wheelbase, too. I just got the rear setback arms(Traxxas part) in today, so I will mount these up and see what happens). I will get them listed in the store, too.

crazyjr 01.04.2006 10:39 PM

Thats what i mean, I tryed a different spot and it flew prefect so i have a jump problem not a noseheavy problem. As far as turning, I agree, I was running at the track today and had spectaters some were Nitro Revo owners and they said it turned better than theirs. hopefully saturday I'll be able to compare heads up with a revo. I can't run speed for speed, but i can compare handling

One more thing Mike. which motor would prefer for racing with 4s lipo's? : A 1940/8 or 9 turn, a 8XL or 9XL wanderer or maybe an option i haven't thought of that you may know.

The rest of the setup will be a 9920 or 12020 warrior and a set of scorpion 6400 lipo's races could be anywhere between 5 minutes to 30 to 45 minutes. thanks for any advice you can give me

squeeforever 01.05.2006 09:19 PM

you plan on getting more than one set of scorpions? dont think you could make 45 minutes with those packs.

RC-Monster Mike 01.05.2006 11:16 PM

I actually have a 1940/7 motor that is about perfect for 4s Lipo. The 1940/6 is also a great choice. The 8 turn needs a tall gearing, but this was my favorite for 5s Lipo. I think the 7 turn 1940 is my all around favorite, followed by the 8 turn.

pcnutz 01.08.2006 05:04 PM

just to let yall know, I have tried the LT springs and upto 80 weight silicon, I think my 14 gp3300 is too much weight. so I am going to get the P3 rockers to see if I can curve the bottoming out, sux cause I have to get the rockers and push rods

Sylvester 01.08.2006 05:40 PM

In my g2r , i am using blue springs up front, silver in rear, with 80wt oil and it seems ok, your still bottoming out? I too, am gonna run 14 cell gp3300's , you have me worried that i might need somthing stiffer! :W:

pcnutz 01.08.2006 08:13 PM

I got silver in front and blue in back yeah I am definantly going to spring 4 p3 rockers and push rods

Sylvester 01.08.2006 08:27 PM

Tell me how it goes, i might have to get p3 rockers too!

crazyjr 01.08.2006 08:47 PM

don't try the p3 rockers without the proper rods, I tryed it and the suspension is too soft and too low

Sylvester. you need to switch the springs around. I have the blue in the rear and the silver in front and it is awsome. Much betterin stability and cornering. you need the stiffer springs in back.

cabking 01.11.2006 08:45 PM

I've started mine :Love: :Love: :Love:

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Sylvester 01.11.2006 09:04 PM

Nice truck!!! What motor is that? 7XL> Very nice, how many cells are you gonna run. Dont you just love this thing? :love:

squeeforever 01.11.2006 09:25 PM

very nice truck! how do you like the wing mount? saw them in r/c car action. what kind of angle are they set at? is it enough for it you actually give the truck downforce?

crazyjr 01.11.2006 09:41 PM

Welcome to the club Cabking. Very nice truck

cabking 01.11.2006 09:44 PM

The wing mount is OK, nothing too special.
Its not adjustable and the wing does sit fairly flat, so the down force at low speed will be negligible.
I chose this option as I am a lazy bum, and couldn't be bothered to track down the buggy wing part no.s

as for motor/cells, I am awaiting some enlightenment from Mike,
and yes it is a 7XL, borrowed from the Maxx ;)


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