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crazyjr 04.28.2009 01:01 PM

Thanks for the quick answer, I have an old tekin rebel, from tekin's past run. I literally tryed to break that thing, 10 cells nimh 2 14t brushed motors in a Emaxx. I swear that esc loved abuse. I can't wait to try an RX8 and maybe try the 1/10 setups, you got a recommendation for equiv to a 4600 mambamax?

Do you have KV ratings for the sensored 1/10 motors? Or, are they similar to the novaks?

onetoo3 05.04.2009 03:09 PM

how do you guys think it will make out in a flm savage on 4s-6s

big greg 05.04.2009 09:51 PM

i just drove one yesterday, the 2050 on 4s in a rc8, hate to say it but i didnt feel any difference, other then it being a little slower then my car, he had it geared 18/46, maybe its my style of driving.

TekinTeamMgr 05.04.2009 11:54 PM

Our kv's are right there with the orange motors for comparison.

I'd recomend running a 7.5 for most offroad applications if the traction is decent.

crazyjr 05.05.2009 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TekinTeamMgr (Post 284584)
Our kv's are right there with the orange motors for comparison.

I'd recomend running a 7.5 for most offroad applications if the traction is decent.

Thanks, I love my mamba, but i'm open to any new ideas. I remember the tekin of old, the dominator, I'm sure your esc's and motors are on par with the old tekins, maybe better.

thanks for the reply

One more question, Not that it matters, But what winds are you using? wye or delta? It doesn't matter as both are ok, I am just intrested

TekinTeamMgr 05.05.2009 11:23 PM

We use them both. We have some wyes and some deltas.

crazyjr 05.06.2009 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TekinTeamMgr (Post 284822)
We use them both. We have some wyes and some deltas.

Can you tell us which are deltas and wye's?
Can we match them up to neu's and figure it out?

big greg 05.06.2009 05:35 PM

just match the kv? what else do you need to match?

crazyjr 05.06.2009 10:17 PM

honestly, i like Delta winds better. My Novak ss5800 has a wye wind, my fegaio motors have a delta wind, my neu 1515/2.5d is a delta, I had a neu 1107 2y. Out of all of them, I just prefer the feel of the delta motor types. I'd want to try both on tekin's motors, but would like to know which is which. For instance, I'm sure the 2250KV Motor is a 1y (similar to castle/neu) I'm sure the 1700 truggy will be a 2.5d, which would almost make the 1300 a 2y, the 1500 a 3d and the 2000 a 2d

big greg 05.06.2009 10:24 PM

hmm never noticed a difference in the 2, some people are really picky tho about that stuff, i on the other hand dont notice little things

TekinTeamMgr 05.06.2009 10:48 PM

For Buggy:

1900 is a 1.5 wye
1400 is a 2 wye

Truggy:

2250 1 wye
2000 1 wye
1550 1.5 wye

crazyjr 05.07.2009 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TekinTeamMgr (Post 285023)
For Buggy:

1900 is a 1.5 wye
1400 is a 2 wye

Truggy:

2250 1 wye
2000 1 wye
1550 1.5 wye

Thanks, but how can the 2000 and the 2250 be the same wind? Is there a difference in the stack to allow for the kv difference?

BTW thanks for answering all these quetions

gixxer 05.07.2009 08:51 AM

I believe the 2000kv truggy should be a 2D.

stormer actually has y or d listed next to each rpm motor.

SpEEdyBL 05.07.2009 08:04 PM

I think thats a mistake and the 2000kv is a 2D. The neu 2D motors have slightly less kv than the neu 1y motors, which is how I can tell.

The advantage of y winds is that you can vary the timing for positive results, which you can't do with d winds and wye winds are supposedly slightly more effcient than d winds. For obvious reasons, d winds allow for more kv options, but someone please tell me if there really is a powerband difference between y and d? Comparing a y vs. d of similar kv, does one have more bottom end or more midrange power?

Also, for those of you who have had tried both y and d winds, its only fair if they are of the same motor series. Feigao motors are sure to have a different powerband from these tekin and neu motors not because they are delta or wye wound, but because feigaos are slottless and tekin/neu are slotted.

Metallover 05.07.2009 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL (Post 285322)
I think thats a mistake and the 2000kv is a 2D. The neu 2D motors have slightly less kv than the neu 1y motors, which is how I can tell.

The advantage of y winds is that you can vary the timing for positive results, which you can't do with d winds and wye winds are supposedly slightly more effcient than d winds. For obvious reasons, d winds allow for more kv options, but someone please tell me if there really is a powerband difference between y and d? Comparing a y vs. d of similar kv, does one have more bottom end or more midrange power?

If I had to guess I'd say "D" stands for delta and "Y" stands for.. star?:mdr:

It would be just how the winds are hooked up.

SpEEdyBL 05.07.2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metallover (Post 285323)
If I had to guess I'd say "D" stands for delta and "Y" stands for.. star?:mdr:

It would be just how the winds are hooked up.

Thats right. both types have current going through two coil phases in series, but d winds also have current going through the third coil, in parallel with the other two coils.


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