It should be interesting to see what happens when SMC(9000 28C) & Thunder Power(8000 22C) offering high capacity batteries at a decent price.

Yikes!I just looked at maxamps & a price of one 8000 is $189.SMC(9000 28C soft case) pack are going to be $125 & Thunder Power(8000 22C hardcase) packs are going be around $159

I'd pay $125 or $159 for either of those, that kind of run time would be awesome (not to mention the amps...)

crapo ma hydrogen fun! well not really....
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...h_100_1992.jpg

its fun to chat with jason.
bill:
Question
why are max amps packs so expencive compaired to enderland cells.


Jason Melville:
Welcome to MaxAmps.com live help. How can I help you?


Jason Melville:
Do they make every pack fresh when you order?


Jason Melville:
do they offer a 3yr/300 cycle available extended warranty?


bill:
i guess not but the quality and ratings are true,


Jason Melville:
Our quality will surpass and are rating are very true. We also offer the largest selection of packs out there and everyone is water tight. To put it simply nobody offers anything close to what we do.


bill:
but lipos are air tight anyways. also whats max amps answer to thunder powers new 40c packs.


Jason Melville:
I'm not talking air tight...........WATER TIGHT. Li-Po cells have a foam seal at the tabs if water get past that seal it can cause a fire that water only feeds.


bill:
yeah i know the burnin of lithium metal reacts with hydrogen , and boom


bill:
what about neu energys 50c packs that can be had for the same price as your 6500 30c's


Jason Melville:
I can't comment on either packs. Haven't used them and don't plan on it either.


Jason Melville:
If you don't feel ours are worth the money then fine I'm not going to sit and argue about it. They don't sell fresh made packs so you really can't even start to compare products. We deal in Li-po's and chargers that's it. The other companies are trying to sell just about everything under the sun because they can't make it with batteries alone. We can.


bill:
man im sorry . i just puffed som 8000pacs in my rustler with a mm 5700. im not in a real good mood, i was just looking into new pacs


Jason Melville:
I would suggest you get a data logger first. Find out what your gearing is doing before you go and buy another pack of any brand and wreck that as well.


Jason Melville:
Here's the link to the Eagle Tree Systems Micro Data Logger V3: http://www.eagletreesystems.com/MicroPower/micro.htm


Jason Melville:
That's a great little tool that will and can save you a lot of trouble.


bill:
i might, geared at 15/90 and about 35mph is all i get. temps esc 120 motor 170 and well lipos 130


Jason Melville:
you should be 18/90 for on road speed runs.


bill:
the packs have about 130 charges therew them and no warranty so i am discharing them in salt water.


Jason Melville:
your gearing is pulling to many amps if the packs hit 130.


Jason Melville:
your basically screaming the system to try to get more.


bill:
it actualy does, it nutralizes the ions


Jason Melville:
don't waste the time with Salt water that a myth. Discharge the packs with a 12 volt car bulb once the bulb is barely glowing cut off the leads and either take it to a battery re cycleror toss it in the trash.


bill:
( between you and me ) i bury them


Jason Melville:
at less than a volt the chemicals become inert and harmless.


Jason Melville:
they are safe for disposal in the trash at less than a volt.


bill:
so waht cells would you suggest? the 8400 35's?


bill:
they will be better than the old 18 c packs?


Jason Melville:
Not needed our 30C 5250's will do the same with out the weight penalty. I do all the cell testing for us and we actually underrated these cells. They can easily do 35C or 40C. But you won't see that with a 5700 and a rustler.


bill:
what about in my erevo with aneu motor and a mmm?


Jason Melville:
Our old packs were 20 and had thinner tabs. Our new cells have copper tabs that are 3 times thicker than others and they are nickel coated as well.


bill:
so they are like enderlands. with a tab on each side of the cell?


Jason Melville:
in the revo look at the 6500's for a 4S set up or the 3S 5250's for a 6S set-up.


Jason Melville:
Nope.


bill:
i have some zippys for the 6s and the are pretty good. gotme to 74.5 mph.


bill:
kinda like a rubber dip? thats pretty cool, looks like i will put the 6500's in my list of possible cells.


Jason Melville:
tabs are on the one end part of the water tight seal process also helps to ensure that tabs will never come in contact with each other.


bill:
nice for the info and i will deffent ly think about it. but if i do i will get the warrnty .


Jason Melville:
ok thanks.

:lol:

out of the 20 statements he posted about 13 were total bs

lol, a similar situation occurred when I decided to teach my son and his friends about the dangers of coke and hookers! Haha that's one 6 yr old birthday party they are not going to forget tho. It was all arranged thru Linc's girls, gotta remember safety's first! They're a bit young for the herps lesson.

:lol:

That was informative, even my girls had no idea of the dangers of mixing coke and hookers. The fact that they stick to acid and pcp also helps, I think!??!!?

Luckily they are all carriers of the herps, and do not have any issues with outbreaks.

As long as they don't have the chirpies, they're OK :lol:

cause we all know that is untweetable...

Wow I guess it wasn't just me. Personally I haven't really had problems with maxamp packs.

I have around $700 worth of batteries from them. And yes I have swelled a few packs but it was my own fault.

My only problem is the pricing seems to keep going up. Yesterday I ordered a couple of cheap zippy packs. Chances are they wont be as nice but hey, can buy a couple of backup packs and still be ahead.

Like someone else mentioned I do like the size of maxamps packs. 45mm wide is alot easier to work with then 50mm like alot of other lipo brands.

On the other hand, I am getting tired of 2P packs. I like the way 1P packs are so easy to keep track of every cell and balance perfect every time. But all the Maxamp packs I like are 2P.

Anyways, time to change brands. Its a shame since I kinda like how MA just went waterproof on all their stuff. Knock on wood and hope zippy hangs in there.

Damn. I'm glad I only bought one pack from MA. Now I know better.

I think the whole "waterproof" thing is a scam. Not in the sense that it isn't true, but how much more waterproof can a lipo be than it already is? I mean, have you EVER heard of a pack failing because some kid ran his truck in the rain and water got kicked up onto the battery? Or hit a puddle and the pack got shorted out? I can see maybe if you ran the truck into a pond/the ocean and something happened, but those are extreme circumstances. AKA it's your fault. Is MA now accepting warranty claims if I want to use my R/C to sweep the leaves in the bottom of my pool??? They are waterproof, right???

i would say so. that would be a bad ass pool robot.

MA pricing has def continued to climb! So much in fact that you can buy Enerland based packs for less than MA now!

yep, and i do not think that people really realize that yet... plus the fact that 40c cells are coming out, and that will drop the prices of the 25c cells even more. maxamps just cannot keep up with their current pricing and products... the waterfroof thing is a decent option, but not really anything to get the masses flocking...

At the LHS today a guy bought a pair of MA's 5250 packs at $359.99:surprised: just because they told him to LOL

.....for both? What voltage?

it was a huge box and I think they were 11.1 30c

Seems to me that anyone with half a knowledge in Lipos doesn't use their packs, so they prey on the cashed up newbies who "want to go fast" and simply don't know better.

I liken these morally corrupt tactics to the sub-prime lenders who lent 100% of a house purchase price to people with a bad credit rating and we all know where that ended up.

I can't help but wonder how those in charge at Maxamps contend with other moral issues if they can sleep soundly with their business model.

My 3s 6k Maxamps pack (crappy MA wrapping was falling apart after the first run, that's the pack wrapped in electrical tape and new shrinkwrap):
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...y/DSCN1835.jpg

My Bushmaster XM-15:
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...y/DSCN1838.jpg

Put it downrange and did it justice:
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...y/DSCN1840.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...y/DSCN1842.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...y/DSCN1843.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...y/DSCN1841.jpg

For those that still think Lipos are really unstable, they smoked a lot but never caught fire.

lol probably didn't have enough power to catch fire!

It was charged a few weeks ago, so yeah it was probably empty already. Gave off a lot of smoke and smelled but from where I was standing I couldn't see flames.

That's some serious hardware you have there... What do you hunt with that? :neutral:

That's obvious! MaxAmps Lipos! :lol:

Lipos, soda cans, old computer parts, ground squirrels, badgers, etc. :lol:

Got real rifles for hunting, .223/5.56 NATO is really weak.

Well, it looked powerful anyways! :lol: I could't tell what caliber it was- not a gun person myself. At least not the propellant-driven kind. :intello:

It's excellant for varmint, sport shooting, etc. but if you want to bring down an animal you want something that's going to go in and bring it down. No need to make it suffer. I didn't want to use anything too big on it, either, got to be enough of it left to show Jason :whistle:

Awe, hell!!! Get the .50! Just make a vid for him... :lol: :whistle:

:lol: There are a few .50 BMG rifles for sale at some local shops and I want one really badly but I'd have a hard time fitting it into my car. That would absolutely decimate a lipo though, a single shot would leave very little of it left and what would be left would be tiny pieces scattered across that bay of the shooting range. I only had the lipo about 25 yards out (we were all strung up on caffeine, much farther away and none of us could hit anything :party:) and at that range use of a .50 caliber is suicide (the round could ricochet back and hit someone, and having the energy to seriously injure them, I wouldn't shoot a .50 at anything less than 100 yards). We did have a bunch of 12 gauge slugs (.58 caliber) but that wouldn't have left enough left either, plus we were trying to save them for the computer parts and Steve (the fake deer that we found laying in a friend's yard).

I really can't see a .50 round bouncing off of anything...too much energy. Either it disintegrates, or goes straight through! :lol: Shooting one that close would be exciting though!

Yeah, 50 BMG can shoot thru 2-3 feet of dirt... I like something full auto myself, like an ak74.

Another Max Amps Victim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7nP3Z_HCPY

...Ouch. I would've asked for a refund of the pack so I could get a new truck- or two! :lol:

I just placed an order at Maxamps :gasp: But it was only for shrinkwrap :whistle:

[/heart attack] [/defibrillate] [/survive] [/move on] :lol:

:lol:

Funny, I shipped my 2 2s 8k lipos back to Maxamps last Monday and I got my replacements today. Pretty good turnaround time, I shipped my MMM in on the same day and I probably won't see that again until June :whip:

EDIT: I should mention that both packs were out of balance when they got here...brand new and they can't even stay in balance.

I'm surprised MA hasn't offshored their support- that's what every other co does when they don't want to deal with the customer after the sale. They'll get annoyed and give up...

That line from a chat earlier in the thread cracks me up- made FRESH baby- yes that should be worth at least a 30% premium... picture it, iceberg lettuce falling onto your pack, with some other tantalizing garnishes.... mmmm I can taste the freshness right now!

And I know their Pack Assembly Technicians (temps) are wearing gloves and performing their duties with the utmost pride (drooling with their face in rosin core smoke)

Spy, as for your brand new out-of-balance packs, they'll probably say you live in a region known for electromagnetic anomalies, or that a hitherto unknown pole shift has occurred and you are probably overgeared.........:mdr:

I love this thread. Reading the horror stories, reading ANYTHING about Jason, cringing about the poor (that is, poor after buying MA packs) newbies who got f---ed in the wallet. This thread has everything! Drama, comedy, tragedy. What more can you ask for? :D