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twisted8 04.24.2009 12:23 AM

why not just take a little piece of lexan and make a lever that slides over once the switch is "on" and keeps it from moving. its an old school trick.

brushlessboy16 04.24.2009 06:58 AM

Kind of defeats the purpose of a switch then..

shaunjohnson 04.24.2009 07:23 AM

ive mannaged to foil the switches evil habbits:yipi:

mount the switch on your car so that it is laying flat (on it's side) AND the switch moves horizontally to the cars body.

this works amazingly well...bacuase think about it...
the main G-force you get is gonna be from a nose on or a flat land....the only way the switch can turn off in this setup is if you land sideways hard on the wheels...

and all cars have a tenancy for the diff to stabilise it in hte air...so ive noticed that you rarely land on your side hard off a jump...


ive never had a switch turn off on me ever from doing this :yipi::yipi::yipi:

ta_man 04.24.2009 10:39 AM

I think the switch they should use is the type that comes with many radios for the receiver pack (like a Futaba Radio). It is much bigger than the current switch but is very sturdy and reliable.

Patrick 04.25.2009 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 281957)
Kind of defeats the purpose of a switch then..

You still use the switch normal, you just slide the piece of lexan out of the way when you want to turn it off.

twisted8 04.27.2009 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 282197)
You still use the switch normal, you just slide the piece of lexan out of the way when you want to turn it off.

thanks :)

brushlessboy16 04.27.2009 05:51 PM

At the track this past sunday, there were two guys running Mt with the MMM in there vehicles... One was a Savage flux and the other was a standard e-revo converted to Brushless... Both encountered problems with their switches and put them out of the running..


I went to radio shack and bought a MicroMini Toggle switch for 2 bucks, its much better then the stocker and is much harder to foul and flip. By the end of the day one mamba switch was decapitated and buried (literally :lol: )

JerryC 05.01.2009 01:22 PM

does replacing the switch void the warranty?

BrianG 05.01.2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryC (Post 283744)
does replacing the switch void the warranty?

Nope. Patrick from CC has said that mods are allowed as long as nothing is soldered (or unsoldered) to the actual ESC circuit board.

slash_48 05.02.2009 11:55 PM

I don't use the switch cut it off and solder problem solved.

shaunjohnson 05.03.2009 04:54 AM

hows this for an idea....anyone here ever used a VXL ESC??
the crappy traxxas ones?
well you know how they turn on..one touch of the button...i reckon we need that...it's a "soft off" setup that uses just a micro momentary on button and you press it once and it's on then press it again and it's off...i forgot what exactly that setup is called but anyway...yah...that'd be a good idea :D

shaun

What's_nitro? 05.03.2009 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by slash_48 (Post 284113)
I don't use the switch cut it off and solder problem solved.

Mmm sparks! :mdr: You must go through connectors like crazy.

Unsullied_Spy 05.03.2009 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 284151)
Mmm sparks! :mdr: You must go through connectors like crazy.

It will slowly wear away at the tips of your connector. I've never had to replace a connector due to wear :whip: If you're bashing just cut off the switch when it goes bad, if you're racing get rid of it before you race unless you want to shell out the $ for a nice covered switch. I'd rather keep the cost of the ESC low and get a bad switch (life really does go on without it) than have to spend more for something I really couldn't care less about. If you want a switch, spend the money and do it your way.

Hockeyplaya20 05.03.2009 07:07 PM

i agree, my very first run i flipped the truck on its lid, the switch moved just enough to turn it off

in fact, right now im putting on a new toggle switch :)

InsaneRC 05.05.2009 06:47 PM

i vote no don't need to change switches or get rid of them like to have an on off switch takes the hastle out of remembering to turn on radio before u plug in batts even when u get older u tend to forget and you end up with a smash up truck

brushlessboy16 05.05.2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneRC (Post 284718)
i vote no don't need to change switches or get rid of them like to have an on off switch takes the hastle out of remembering to turn on radio before u plug in batts even when u get older u tend to forget and you end up with a smash up truck

Mind saying that over? i dont understand

suicideneil 05.05.2009 09:14 PM

Aye, this is a forum, not a mobile phone- full sentences and punctuation never killed anyone..

I've never had any issues with my switch, but then I've never had any issue with my V1 either :mdr:

I like the idea of jumper though, like the little ones on the back of cd-rom drives (you know what I mean). If you could incorporate that onto the pcb in a suitable location so that it protruded from the top/side of the esc case, then one could simply remove the jumper part to turn off the esc, and replace it to activate it- the spring tension would hold it in place fine, and it could be tethered so as not to become lost.

brushlessboy16 05.06.2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneRC (Post 284879)
gee srry was typing my word :surprised:

sorry if we came off a bit agressive? i just cant understand what your saying in your post:intello:

suicideneil 05.06.2009 05:41 PM

Whats that got to do with the switch though- if you forget to turn the switch off after removng the batts, next time you plug the batts in (without turning the radio on first since due to old age you forgot?) the model would still turn into a run away regardless of there being a switch or not...

Rule #1 in the R/C world is to turn the radio on first, and off last, every time. Funny thing is though I swear the MMM has a built in failsafe of sorts anyway- if I turn the tx off and leave the batts plugged in & esc turned on, the esc leds go to a different color, to indictate 'no signal' and returned the throttle to neutral.

So, switch not required in that sense....

TexasSP 05.06.2009 08:08 PM

I am with neil and bboy16 on this one. I get how the switch comes into play in this scenario. I also know that like neil said the MMM has a fail safe which defaults it to neutral when there is no signal.

brushlessboy16 05.06.2009 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 284937)
Whats that got to do with the switch though- if you forget to turn the switch off after removng the batts, next time you plug the batts in (without turning the radio on first since due to old age you forgot?) the model would still turn into a run away regardless of there being a switch or not...

Rule #1 in the R/C world is to turn the radio on first, and off last, every time. Funny thing is though I swear the MMM has a built in failsafe of sorts anyway- if I turn the tx off and leave the batts plugged in & esc turned on, the esc leds go to a different color, to indictate 'no signal' and returned the throttle to neutral.

So, switch not required in that sense....


With no signal the esc flashes all three leds and beeps really fast.. or you can just get a dsm receiver which has a failsafe built in. works like a charm

brushlessboy16 05.06.2009 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InsaneRC (Post 284980)
oh just shut up about it FFS

FFS?

Its a forum- We have just as much right to post what we think as you.:whistle:

brushlessboy16 05.27.2009 12:02 PM

Bump..

Kcaz25 05.27.2009 03:43 PM

Castle randomly emailed me a survey asking if they should change the switches... I voted yes even if it increases the price tag on their units, and wrote in how quickly my switch failed.

fkadir 05.27.2009 08:40 PM

I got that survey too. Voted 'Yes' to a higher quality switch.

Freezebyte 05.28.2009 01:18 PM

Mine always lets out a big spark, I just figured it was normal :neutral:

BrianG 05.28.2009 01:20 PM

Your switch sparks?? It shouldn't.

nitrostarter 05.28.2009 01:26 PM

I only get sparks when connecting batteries....

Freezebyte 05.28.2009 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 290758)
Your switch sparks?? It shouldn't.

I meant when connecting the batteries.

What's_nitro? 05.28.2009 06:51 PM

^^ :lol: I thought he meant his switch, too. I thought to myself- "Man, that's not right!" :rofl:

Bar-A10 05.28.2009 11:27 PM

I vote yes a nice mini deans style jumper would be great.

InsaneRC 06.06.2009 07:15 PM

Can i Change my vote for yes??

this what happen to my switch the sitch came completey off!! so i had no switch!! and just 2 small wires coming from the circuit board!! Lucky for me some 1 repaired it and soldered the switch right back on the circuit board and it Work!!

So my Vote would have to be YES!!

ethier have the switch be mounted to the ESC like a tab or something like the AE-1 Esc or just have the switch located on the side or no switch @ ALL!! :yes:

nitrostarter 06.18.2009 02:38 PM

WOW! So I was out running today. I just installed my M11 and spektrum reciever. I went to the track and I started making laps. Then all of a sudden, it started getting glitchy. It was acting as if the power was being shut on and off. I check it out. I had tried to rebind my Tx/Rx, same problems. All my parameters and ESC setting were fine. But it still glitched. Finnaly a thought came to mind, check the switch. I messed with it, and then cut it off and twisted the wires together, and sure enough, everything was fine after that. I'm sure glad it happened like that when I was practicing and not in a race... I would have been aggrivated. So I'll either solder on a new switch like I did my other MMM or just solder the wires together and not use a switch.


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