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rootar 06.19.2009 12:38 AM

heck yea that looks soooo much better, for the record if the kyosho rears work then so will the b44 or b4 rears....

skellyo 06.19.2009 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rootar (Post 296983)
heck yea that looks soooo much better, for the record if the kyosho rears work then so will the b44 or b4 rears....

Not necessarily. The size of the pin in the axle may make a difference with the B4 wheels. The Kyosho wheels bolt right on easier since they're 12mm hex.

rootar 06.19.2009 10:05 AM

what do you mean sean? they use a 12mm hex the pin length of size that holds the hex on doesnt matter, if you mean the axle size the b44 or b4 use a 3/16th (4.83mm) axle while the kyosho use a 5mm. either will work as the wheels center hole only sits on the threaded part which is slighty smaller diameter than the shank of the axle where the hex sits....

if you notice any difference between the two it woud be that the b4/b44 wheels would fit slighty tighter.

hope that made sense, (because ive used lazer wheels on a b44 and vice versa)

Metallover 06.19.2009 11:00 AM

Wait so the mini e-revo uses a 36mm motor!? My god I might have to get one now.... Run a 4s 2200 mah system with a Medusa and mamba max. Hell Yeah. :yes:

Has anyone tried fitting a 2200 cell in there yet?

No, I found it's a 380 motor so a 28mm medusa would have to do.

lincpimp 06.19.2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Metallover (Post 297041)
Wait so the mini e-revo uses a 36mm motor!? My god I might have to get one now.... Run a 4s 2200 mah system with a Medusa and mamba max. Hell Yeah. :yes:

Has anyone tried fitting a 2200 cell in there yet?

No, I found it's a 380 motor so a 28mm medusa would have to do.

Given the spec of the battery tray an airthunder 2200 30c 2s pack should fit in each tray.

Wild YFZ 450 06.19.2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metallover (Post 297041)
Wait so the mini e-revo uses a 36mm motor!? My god I might have to get one now.... Run a 4s 2200 mah system with a Medusa and mamba max. Hell Yeah. :yes:

Has anyone tried fitting a 2200 cell in there yet?

No, I found it's a 380 motor so a 28mm medusa would have to do.

Yes it uses a 380 size motor wich is a medusa 28mm series, But in those pics you can see that a Medusa 36-50-???? can fit with some very little modding, Just dremel a bit off the rear shock holder and it will fit, This is what i plan to do when my VXL system dies, This thing is stupid on the 3s 380 I can't imagine 4s 540 can.... I can fit my zippy 3s 1600mah packs in there, There a tight squeeze bit they fit....
http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...voDeans022.jpg
http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/a...voDeans026.jpg

skellyo 06.19.2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rootar (Post 297029)
what do you mean sean? they use a 12mm hex the pin length of size that holds the hex on doesnt matter, if you mean the axle size the b44 or b4 use a 3/16th (4.83mm) axle while the kyosho use a 5mm. either will work as the wheels center hole only sits on the threaded part which is slighty smaller diameter than the shank of the axle where the hex sits....

if you notice any difference between the two it woud be that the b4/b44 wheels would fit slighty tighter.

hope that made sense, (because ive used lazer wheels on a b44 and vice versa)

Since when do B4 wheels use a hex? That's certainly news to me.

rootar 06.19.2009 01:01 PM

damn im a total TARD, i have my b44 sitting right here in front of me the whole time, i must have been thinking about the front being a 12mm hex i completely forgot the rear was pin drive, when we used the b44 wheels on the lazer we removed the hex and on the b44 we added a traxxas hex in the rear.......

:oops: :whistle:

Metallover 06.19.2009 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild YFZ 450 (Post 297045)
Yes it uses a 380 size motor wich is a medusa 28mm series, But in those pics you can see that a Medusa 36-50-???? can fit with some very little modding, Just dremel a bit off the rear shock holder and it will fit, This is what i plan to do when my VXL system dies, This thing is stupid on the 3s 380 I can't imagine 4s 540 can.... I can fit my zippy 3s 1600mah packs in there, There a tight squeeze bit they fit....

I would use two 2s 2200mah packs in a series for the 4s.

nitrostarter 06.19.2009 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rootar (Post 297057)
damn im a total TARD, ...:oops: :whistle:


:lol:

BP-Revo 06.19.2009 01:37 PM

I just spent the better part of last night cramming a Neu 1112 into my 1/16 E-Revo. I haven't even ran the truck.

I'll be using a Mamba Max ESC in it and will be switching between 2S2P and 4S1P (I bought 2S 2200mah Zipp packs). I'll also be running a Castle BEC. Seems like overkill in a small truck but I guess this is what it takes to have a (extremely overly-) powerful setup that will run ice cool no matter what I throw at it.

I had to dremel the rear shock Tower and cut the shaft down on the motor (the Neu shaft was a solid 1/8" too long). I also ground a flat spot.

This weekend I hope to fab up the ESC mount (I'm going to make a mount out of aluminum that slides into the stock ESC mount tabs so I can slide my ESC out just like stock).

I've also moved my steering servo to the other side to balance the weight and provide cleaner wiring later on.

kulangflow 06.19.2009 01:51 PM

I'd love to see pics of that when you're done, BP.

kraegar 06.19.2009 02:00 PM

I'm picking one up tonight... I just don't know which to get!

I have two slashes and an E-Revo in the full size, and can't make up my mind on the mini!

Help!

rootar 06.19.2009 02:05 PM

wait till linc sees it....im sure he could have fun with that post, he has fun with most posts :whistle:

kulangflow 06.19.2009 02:07 PM

I went with the E-Revo. The ground clearance and tires should allow it to go places where the Slash just can't.

BL_RV0 06.19.2009 02:09 PM

FWIW I think a medusa 36-50-5900 with a MM or SW on 2s ~4500mah would be killer.

BrianG 06.19.2009 10:04 PM

I stopped by the LHS today and got a look at both the Slash and Revo. At first, I thought they were pretty cool, but after a while, I was less enthusiastic. With a little work, the CRT.5 is pretty darn close size-wise and has beefier driveline. The Revo/Slash shocks looked very chintzy, almost like a Wal-Mart toy. And the VXL, well, it's a VXL. I guess $290 for a true RTR BL system system isn't bad, but I didn't go for it.

Maybe once the eBay chop shops start selling rollers with no electrics, I might get one.

kraegar 06.19.2009 10:31 PM

Picked up a slash to play with. Quite a bit of fun so far - watch your running surface, though! Uneven cracks in our sidewalk are more then enough to bottom it out, and send it flying. If I'd put a little more thought into that, I woulda went with the e-revo, but the slash looked too cool to pass up. I love the corr truck look.

So far I've just swapped out the receiver and put some shims in to remove some wheel slop. Still formulating plans for what else to do... gotta get some 3s batteries that'll fit. I was eyeing the turnigys, just need to do some measuring.

Tony

Wild YFZ 450 06.20.2009 12:11 AM

Got a 52mph pass with the mini revo on 3s, Ya I kno its dark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acEbRRv9pEA

kulangflow 06.20.2009 12:55 AM

I got mine in today. It zips around pretty well on 3s. I tightened everything up and put the smaller 23t pinion on. The holes for the battery wires to pass through are too small for 12 gauge wire, so I'll need to open them up a bit.

Things went well until the end of the run. I did a reverse back-flip and broke one of the driveshafts, more specifically the plastic part that connects to the diff. It's cracked on both sides. I wasn't fully expecting to do a back-flip so I was on the throttle when it landed. It's more my fault than the truck's because most drivelines don't like landing with the wheels at full throttle. Oops.

I've super-glued the cracks and will take it easy until a replacement gets here.

It's definitely a bit smaller and less sturdy than the CRT.5. It needs thicker oil in the shocks for sure. It also needs shimming to tighten the wheels up a bit. Overall, I'm pretty happy with it so far.

Good times.

BP-Revo 06.20.2009 05:11 AM

Wild YFZ. I think you are way overgeared with a 33T on there. If you gear down to about 25T I'm sure your speed will increase.

Anyway, I have an order from Tower which I am hoping will arrive tomorrow, if it does, I'll be able to have pictures of it up. I'm itching to run it. I think I'll borrow my friend's CrapAmps 3S 1100 packs to run in parallel to try it on 3S first. I have a feeling something in the drivetrain is gonna hate me when I run 4S.

Wild YFZ 450 06.20.2009 12:13 PM

I don't think goin from a 33t to a 25t will increase my speed, Im running 3s lipos wich is around 11.1~ volts and I am seeing 52mph tops, Yet the 12 cell Ni-mh setup running a 23t pinion at 14.4volts is seeing 50, And you all know the speed claims by traxxas are a bit off. So i think 33t is not over geared at all as both the ESC and motor reached 130 from about 10 passes, If i was overgeared the temps wouldn't be the same ( ESC- 123, Motor-132) Also the motor had no trouble pulling that gearing either it still did wheelies like crazy, Actually did a 50mph wheelie and it sounded all fine.

BL_RV0 06.20.2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BP-Revo (Post 297347)
Wild YFZ. I think you are way overgeared with a 33T on there. If you gear down to about 25T I'm sure your speed will increase.

Anyway, I have an order from Tower which I am hoping will arrive tomorrow, if it does, I'll be able to have pictures of it up. I'm itching to run it. I think I'll borrow my friend's CrapAmps 3S 1100 packs to run in parallel to try it on 3S first. I have a feeling something in the drivetrain is gonna hate me when I run 4S.

Well, what other way is there to find weak links?

kulangflow 06.20.2009 02:03 PM

Since my diff yoke broke, I removed the front axles and just made it rear-wheel drive. I was able to get through one run with 23t pinion and the stock battery. The top speed was expectedly low, but it was still pretty fun. I threw in the 3s lipo and that was a perfect bashing speed for me.

Three minutes into the 3s run I ran into a curb and broke the right front upper A-arm. The brakes are much weaker than I am used to. With my other similar vehicles (RC18, Vendetta ST, CRT.5), I can stop from full speed in just a few feet if I need to. With the E-Revo VXL, I wasn't even going full speed. I hit the brakes 10 feet from the curb and it still hit hard enough to brake the A-arm. I'm figuring that has more to do with the ESC than anything else, so a Sidewinder might have to replace the stocker.

I am pretty disappointed that my truck has broken twice in 3 runs. I wasn't any harder on it than I am on the rest of my trucks. Hopefully Traxxas will send out replacements on Monday, then I'll know to take it easier on it when it's up and running again.

E-Revonut 06.20.2009 02:13 PM

Not havong the braking power is mostly due to you tsking the front driveshaft out. No front driveshaft = no front brakes, which is where the most braking is done. All the other vehicles you listed are also 4wd which all brake well because they have front braking. See how fast a Rustler stops, they don't!

Bondonutz 06.20.2009 03:11 PM

I know this is just little off topic, Can someone please give me a measurment of the Mini E-revos shocks ? preferably eye to eye but end to end will work. Exact measurment pleeze!
Thanks in advance !

BP-Revo 06.20.2009 03:32 PM

In the Traxxas Manual, it states the eye to eye measurement is 47.75mm.

Bondonutz 06.20.2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BP-Revo (Post 297482)
In the Traxxas Manual, it states the eye to eye measurement is 47.75mm.

Hmmm, never thought those specs would have ben in the manual.
Thank you for the measurments BP-revo.

I had an idea of possibly using TC4 Shocks but they are about 10mm to long. DAM ! Maybe some other Manufacturers TC shocks are shorter ? Circumfrance will also play a part also.

BP-Revo 06.20.2009 05:54 PM

I would just buy the aluminum bodies and TiNi shafts from Traxxas to make these just like a mini version of the upgraded Revo shocks (that now come standard on the E-Revo). They have proven to be great shocks from my experience with them, and I can't see the mini versions being much different quality wise.

That said, the stock shocks do suck...a lot. I haven't even ran mine and I can already tell that they aren't very smooth and have already leaked a solid amount of shock oil out of them cause there is almost no dampening.

Bondonutz 06.20.2009 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BP-Revo (Post 297513)
I would just buy the aluminum bodies and TiNi shafts from Traxxas to make these just like a mini version of the upgraded Revo shocks (that now come standard on the E-Revo). They have proven to be great shocks from my experience with them, and I can't see the mini versions being much different quality wise.

That said, the stock shocks do suck...a lot. I haven't even ran mine and I can already tell that they aren't very smooth and have already leaked a solid amount of shock oil out of them cause there is almost no dampening.

I'm hearing ya ! The little gerbil in the wheel in my head was runnng like fool when I got the idea of possibly the TC shocks working because they could be scored cheaper on Fleabay than the upgrade via Traxxas.

skellyo 06.20.2009 07:32 PM

Just ran mine today on one of my Hyperion G3 packs. Awesome lipos and quite a fun truck! I don't see why anyone would want to bash one of these on anything more than 2S. IMO, it's just a recipe for carnage and more time on the lid than on the wheels. Hell, it's hard enough keeping it on the wheels with 2S and a heavy throttle finger.

Bondonutz 06.20.2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 297526)
Just ran mine today on one of my Hyperion G3 packs. Awesome lipos and quite a fun truck! I don't see why anyone would want to bash one of these on anything more than 2S. IMO, it's just a recipe for carnage and more time on the lid than on the wheels. Hell, it's hard enough keeping it on the wheels with 2S and a heavy throttle finger.

Thats pretty much what I was thinking watching everybodys videos of their trucks on 3s. Still looks like fun but not really practical. I'm envious seeing everybody having fun with theirs and I'm still waiting on Horizon Hobby and I orderd it on 5/8/09. Sucks to be me :no:

skellyo 06.20.2009 08:37 PM

Decided to play around with mounting some different tires/wheels on the Slash that I had laying here. I drilled out the axle hole on some mini inferno wheels and put them on. The wheels are Pro-Line mini inferno, tires are Pro-Line Crimefighter and hexes are from 3Racing for a mini inferno. They are almost identical in size to the stock tires/wheels.

http://skellyo.com/fs/vxl_14.jpg

http://skellyo.com/fs/vxl_15.jpg

Bondonutz 06.20.2009 08:42 PM

Wow, That 's looking WAY more track worthy now ?! They look excellent and right at home on your Slashy. I've ben searching for anything for wheel and tire combos for the M-ERevo .
So far looks like the kyosho or B44 rims are the ticket ?
Edit: I had to add this; "What a great looking little truck that is !"

hootie7159 06.20.2009 08:50 PM

Skellyo, what runtimes are you getting and are you running your 2s in series or parallel or just one pack????

skellyo 06.20.2009 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hootie7159 (Post 297533)
Skellyo, what runtimes are you getting and are you running your 2s in series or parallel or just one pack????

I haven't run out my first pack yet and I easily have over 10 minutes on it. The single 2S pack has enough punch to put the E-Revo on its lid on a hard launch. I just don't see the need to run the packs in parallel and definitely not in series except for perhaps a speed run or two.

kulangflow 06.20.2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 297463)
Not havong the braking power is mostly due to you tsking the front driveshaft out. No front driveshaft = no front brakes, which is where the most braking is done. All the other vehicles you listed are also 4wd which all brake well because they have front braking. See how fast a Rustler stops, they don't!

You make a good point, but the braking wasn't good even before I removed the front driveshafts, so I guess it went from bad to worse. :-)

All the local guys have been beating their E-Revo VXL's up pretty good at the track and nothing has broken on theirs so far. I'll give it another shot when the new parts get here.

kraegar 06.20.2009 09:19 PM

Took the slash out to where they're building a local track - right now it's pretty rough dirt, a lot of rocks, and the recent heavy rains left it pretty wet...

That being said, it was a ton of fun! I flipped quite a few times when I hit some rocks, took some amazing tumbles, but didn't break anything. Just some mud to dig out of it.

Tons more fun on the dirt then on pavement! I'd had some second thoughts on the slash after running it on pavement, but it really looks amazing on the dirt.

Still running the stock battery, debating on either 3s in parrallel or 2s in parallel, when I make up my mind I'll get some on order.

Tony

skellyo 06.20.2009 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kraegar (Post 297540)
Took the slash out to where they're building a local track - right now it's pretty rough dirt, a lot of rocks, and the recent heavy rains left it pretty wet...

That being said, it was a ton of fun! I flipped quite a few times when I hit some rocks, took some amazing tumbles, but didn't break anything. Just some mud to dig out of it.

Tons more fun on the dirt then on pavement! I'd had some second thoughts on the slash after running it on pavement, but it really looks amazing on the dirt.

Still running the stock battery, debating on either 3s in parrallel or 2s in parallel, when I make up my mind I'll get some on order.

Tony

I'd try a larger capacity single 2S lipo before you jump to a parallel configuration. My single 2S 1800mAh kicks butt!

kraegar 06.20.2009 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 297541)
I'd try a larger capacity single 2S lipo before you jump to a parallel configuration. My single 2S 1800mAh kicks butt!

So why not put two of those in, and get double the runtime?


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