Send evonuts (or whatever his name is) a PM. He traded me an Xbox 360 that was the really old version and it has all kinds of upgraded fans and other crap on it. Runs like a champ! He knows what he is doing.

I would change my pre-order to the special edition XBox, but money is too tight right now to drop $400 or whatever that thing costs. I'd rather get an Arcade, swap over my case and HDD, and be done with it. Forza 3 and the new GTA 4 expansion come out later this month and I don't intend to miss a moment of it :wink:

The PS3 has a nice price to it. No need to do all the mods to make it work good. I'm doing a test right now on mine. It's been on for a week now.

Must I repeat myself? This is not thread about the PS3, it's about the 360. I know 2 people with PS3s, and a few dozen with 360s. I bought the 360 over the PS3 because 1) I'd rather have people to play with and talk to 2) Every game on the PS3 worth playing is available on the PC, and 3) They keep changing PS3s around so I never know which one it is that I want, I would want a reverse-compatible one with the biggest hard drive possible.

Fixed... :whistle:

Here is the other way around. I only know 2 people with the 360 and they both have bought the PS3. Get the PS3, get the COD that will be out next month and lets kill some online folks. I'm waiting for GT5 to come out next year and my collection of GTs will be complete until GT6 comes out. Man, I keep forgetting this is not a PS3 thread, bad me :diablo:.

It worked fine for nearly 2 years and only recently developed the overheating issue...

GT5 is the only game for the PS3 that I'm interested in. To me, it isn't worth $300 for a Blu Ray player and GT5.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-app...ex/gaming/c3da I bought this shirt, I can wear it in shame when I go to buy my new one. I'm tempted to buy a new Elite and swap over the S/N tag and return my old and tell them it didn't work.

The reason why I didn't get the 360 is the controller. All the racing games I tried didn't come close to any of the GT games in terms of realism. I also got turned away when I found out I had to spend an extra $100 to make it wireless. What I think would be nice is to allow 360 and PS3 players to play together in games such as Call Of Duty (Or any other online game they both have) which is made for both platforms.

I definitely like the controller of the PS3 better, it feels really chintzy and the batteries aren't replaceable but I'm significantly better with it. I almost never use a Playstation but I can pick up the controller and be at least decent at whatever game I am playing, the XBox controller takes more getting used to and I still don't like it. How is Forza compared to GT? I think Forza is fairly good on the realism, not perfect but good.

The $100 for the wireless LAN is bullsh!t, I agree. I have been wanting to move my XBox since I bought the thing but I am tethered to my router because I'm not forking over that kind of money for the wireless.

360 and PS3 players should definitely be able to play together! At very least to keep games alive longer because there are always a few people looking to go multiplayer with games that aren't the latest and hottest. I don't think PC players and console players should be able to play together, I don't want to hear all the console kiddies bitching because people with a keyboard and mouse are owning them :lol:

Cant you just get a longer ethernet cable to connect the 360 to your router (power points not withstanding), allowing you to relocate it?

In a perfect world yes, but not everyone has the skills, time or desire to deal with it. Me on the other hand, if its not wired in my house, it don't work. Wireless is fine for the farking Starbucks book writers and grandmas laptop, but wired is still the best for network throughput and low latency.

Everything in my apartment is gigabit wired and what the landlord doesn't know, won't hurt her. :whistle:

I have the ps3 but the kid has the 360, the 360 doesnt work well with the wireless lan, I run the ps3 off the wireless and it never skips a beat. Im not saying PS3 FTW but I wouldnt buy one for myself also his 360 had to be sent back 3 times due to a something screen of death. What a pile

Huh? Do you mean to say the ethernet cable is built-in to the 360 as such? On the PS3 its just a bog-standard cable with male plugs on either end, meaning you can use any length you want.

You could always buy an extension cable for the 360's ethernet cable if it is built-in.. :neutral:

The 360 uses a standard ethernet plug and where I want to move it is within the range limits of Cat5e cable, I just don't want to deal with tripping over the cable or drilling holes in the wall. Is the 360 really that bad wireless? I know wireless doesn't perform nearly as well as wired (which is why I'm OK with keeping it where it is for now) but a few friends of mine are obsessed with Halo and use wireless and they say they don't have a problem with it.

FWIW, if you are playing racing games, get a force feedback wheel - its a much better experience. I bought a used Logitech for use with my PS3, and I've never been happier. Its a pain to have to drag out the cords that go with it, though. I also had to build a laptop piece for it to attach to - they put out too much force to hold between the legs.

My kids 360 works like crap wireless and its 1 room (100ft) from the wifi router. my ps3 is about 1000ft in the living room and no skip. I bought him the real $100 wireless microsoft adapter for wifi. Could be a cold spot. Just the fact you have to buy the 360 and the wifi adapter where ps3 has it all plus blueray I dont see the argument lol

Ah, fair enough. Possible to tuck it under the edges of the carpet maybe- if it needs to go into a different room, then I can see how that might be a problem, but drilling holes in the wall is fun! :lol:

I live in a house that has a sub floor ? that what you call it. a 3 ft crawl space. I crawled down there and ran the kid a 50ft rj 45 or cat 5 or whatever they call them now and then it did some screen of death he called it. $45. My wife jacked the cable from work or that would have been another $45

Wireless is kinda like a hooker. Sometimes its worth it, sometimes its not. :mdr:

Wow...What did I start. This is a 360 thread guys :oops:.

Oh well....When are you going to get a PS3 :rofl:. I think Sony lowered the price too. Do you guys think if I complain enough, I would get some credit for spending over $500 on mine?

With Sony, hell no.

You're getting sleepy...Listen to my voice...You're in a deep sleep now...PS3...PS3...PPPSSS333....................... .................................................. ...

Screw Sony after all the bullshi't they've pulled the last few years.

I'm getting deep inside your mind...PS3 is good...PS3 is the best...PS3 will put all others to rest...Get a PS3 for a super low price...When you wake up tomorrow, you'll have PS3 in your mind and you'll get one...

$100 off ps3 and look at those bundles !!!!!!

http://www.walmart.com/search/search...y=ps3+hardware

I wouldn't mind having a PS3, I really wouldn't, but what am I going to do with it? Blu Ray and GT5 are the only 2 things I'm interested in. That duck game where you tilt the tub with the motion sensing is a kick in the pants when you're drunk, but it isn't worth it to me. I've got too many RCs that need work to drop money on a PS3 :rules:

I liked it a lot when Sony lowered their prices, not only did it put the PS3 in a more financially feasible position for me but it forced Microshaft's hand into lowering the price on the 360. The 360 is so cheaply constructed I'm sure they could lower the prices even more and still make money hand-over-fist.

Well, all together you have over 55,000 games you can play. It's just a nice platform.