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spcpicard 10.18.2009 05:52 PM

Mine came with a coupon for a free castle link adapter. It says to register it with a code provided and they will send a free castle link. They must not have had enough stock to package them with the MPro.

BrianG 10.18.2009 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spcpicard (Post 328038)
Mine came with a coupon for a free castle link adapter. It says to register it with a code provided and they will send a free castle link.

That actually makes a lot of sense. After getting a few MMM systems, I have like 3 or 4 CLinks. A couple spares are nice to have, but any more than that is a waste. So, they save the expense of including it if the user doesn't need it, but still offer it for free if they do.

Unsullied_Spy 10.19.2009 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 328070)
That actually makes a lot of sense. After getting a few MMM systems, I have like 3 or 4 CLinks. A couple spares are nice to have, but any more than that is a waste. So, they save the expense of including it if the user doesn't need it, but still offer it for free if they do.

+1, very good idea! When I got my replacement MMM I had a spare CC Link and had no use for it, so I gave my spare one to Freezebyte and when I get my MMM back from CC I will have another spare which I'll probably give to a buddy of mine simply because I only need 1. Very good move on Castle's part :rules:

Thomas Porfert 10.19.2009 10:56 AM

Castle Link adapter chip
 
The Mamba Max Pro will be coming with a coupon for the Castle Link adapter chip. This entitles you to a free Castle Link adapter chip, but does not include the USB cable; we cover the cost of shipping for domestic addresses and most international shipments. This is also true for the new Phoenix ICE line. You have 3 options for redeeming the code on the coupon. You can submit the code on our website, fill out the coupon and fax it, or simply mail it in.

Just FYI... We stopped including the USB cable with our products. So the Mamba Max and Mamba Monster no longer include the cable. For now the Mamba Monster will still come with the USB adapter chip, but eventually it will be replaced by the coupon as well.

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

TexasSP 10.19.2009 11:03 AM

That's good, because I only have about 100 USB cables laying around from this that and the other.

Good idea to do it this way. I like that you have decided to cut costs and eliminate redunduncy but still have a way to provide for your customers. Many would just charge for the adapter, yet I will not mention any names of who those people are.......

snellemin 10.19.2009 11:42 AM

man, I still haven't received mine.

I like the coupon idea as well.

gixxer 10.19.2009 09:21 PM

Just got mine from Tower today.

DarkRedemptor 10.20.2009 06:44 AM

Hello,
I would buy a sensored brushless, but I hesitate between 2 controllers
I would like to know if the MMP can handle a T8 2050kV in a Ve8 (weight around 3550g).
I know the MMP is not dedicated to that, but in Europe we need this brushless for most of our racetrack.
The MMP have a Nice footrpint and I think it can made the work well, but I don't know if it can easily handle this kind of motor (the T8 2050kV is a delta wound that drain more current than the Wye wound)

Thanks for your answer

Koko 10.20.2009 08:32 AM

Is this ESC going to be any good to use as a crawler esc? Or is it too big?

TexasSP 10.20.2009 10:51 AM

I think on a AX10 or the like it would work fine. It has the same footprint as the MM which many people already use on crawlers. The good thing is that you could remove the fan and save a little more space since crawlers tend to pull such low amps I highly doubt the fan would ever come on.

The sensored/sensorless hybrid mode would be probably bet pretty nice for crawling.

spcpicard 10.20.2009 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko (Post 328461)
Is this ESC going to be any good to use as a crawler esc? Or is it too big?

It should work fine, I was running a tekin RX8 (1/8) esc on my losi comp crawler with a 21.5 tekin redline on 4s. It worked awesome and since both controllers have switching becs, no need for a seperate bec to run your servos.

Finnster 10.20.2009 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert (Post 327633)
"Upgrades" will be considered just like a sales order. Meaning if we have 1000 pieces on order, you'll be #1,001. Based on the number of current back orders and our rate of production, it will be 2-3 months before the first "upgrade" will be shipped. So if you are in dire need of a replacement, the upgrade path is not your best option.

Please understand that this upgrade program is brand new for us. We are still setting up a system to make it easier on you guys and on us. The policies have been set, we just need a system in place to make it work.

I'll post more details as they become available, and keep you guys in the loop.

This is an important time for Castle. We have a wide range of new products hitting the market, with components we've never used before (Sensors, data logging and onboard adjustable BEC's). So we're excited and a little anxious at the same time. We're also working on improving the repair process. We are implementing a new system and new policies in regards to repairs and warranties. The end result should be a MUCH faster turnaround and the ability to track your repair as it moves through the different stages.

If you have questions or concerns, just post them here, this way everyone can see the answers. Thanks fellas and have a great weekend!

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

I'm not in a rush. What I was looking for was not the price ( I saw that earlier) but the details of how to go about the upgrade.

IE. Where do you request an upgrade? I assume I have to mail the MM back to castle, so do you just fill out a repair request form and note that you want an upgrade to MMP? Right now you can do the online repair request, but its only repair for $50. Perhaps just adding an option to the dropdown menu that requests upgrade only for whatever you will charge ($75) so you can check out and get an RMA number there and put into the queue.
Whatever makes sense with your system. I'm just looking for the logistics.
Thank you and good luck. Its very nice to see a company so dedicated to customer service and constant improvement.

RC-Monster Mike 10.20.2009 04:11 PM

mmp
 
FYI - Ours are scheduled to arrive Friday. :)

FastXR 10.20.2009 04:36 PM

Darn it I just tried to order one but it won't let me because its out of stock. :cry::cry::cry:

RC-Monster Mike 10.20.2009 05:04 PM

Its not Friday yet. :)

Unsullied_Spy 10.20.2009 05:07 PM

Out of curiousity, how many did you order?

suicideneil 10.20.2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkRedemptor (Post 328455)
Hello,
I would buy a sensored brushless, but I hesitate between 2 controllers
I would like to know if the MMP can handle a T8 2050kV in a Ve8 (weight around 3550g).
I know the MMP is not dedicated to that, but in Europe we need this brushless for most of our racetrack.
The MMP have a Nice footrpint and I think it can made the work well, but I don't know if it can easily handle this kind of motor (the T8 2050kV is a delta wound that drain more current than the Wye wound)

Thanks for your answer

3.5KG = 7.8lbs, so I think the MMpro would do fine with the T8 motor- even being delta wound its still only 2050kv, pushing a pretty light vehicle. I would look in the MMPro beta testers thread and look at the feedback for more ideas.

Thomas Porfert 10.20.2009 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnster (Post 328501)
I'm not in a rush. What I was looking for was not the price ( I saw that earlier) but the details of how to go about the upgrade.

IE. Where do you request an upgrade? I assume I have to mail the MM back to castle, so do you just fill out a repair request form and note that you want an upgrade to MMP? Right now you can do the online repair request, but its only repair for $50. Perhaps just adding an option to the dropdown menu that requests upgrade only for whatever you will charge ($75) so you can check out and get an RMA number there and put into the queue.
Whatever makes sense with your system. I'm just looking for the logistics.
Thank you and good luck. Its very nice to see a company so dedicated to customer service and constant improvement.

We are working on adding an "upgrade" option to make it easier on you guys and on us. I believe we will add an option for Upgrade under "Is this a warranty claim" and just make something like "Other - Upgrade". Or add the upgrade option to the product type list. We're open to suggestions on that.

For now when you fill out the form on the website, just claim it as a non-warranty Mamba Max for $50.00. When you fill in the order form, there is a section for additional information. Just add a note that says "Please upgrade to Mamba Max Pro". Our repair administrator will adjust the cost and change the order to a Mamba Max Pro. We won't charge your card until the replacement is ready to ship, so you can submit your credit card number on the secure order form.

After you submit the order, you will get an e-mail confirmation back. Just print off the e-mail confirmation and send it in with the Mamba Max. Let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns.

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

MetalMan 10.20.2009 05:37 PM

Thinking along the lines of crawlers... what about a Sidewinder Pro? I think if it were only $10-20 more than the current Sidewinder for the added sensor capability and current-spec FETs and brain board it would be a hit.

Thomas Porfert 10.20.2009 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkRedemptor (Post 328455)
Hello,
I would buy a sensored brushless, but I hesitate between 2 controllers
I would like to know if the MMP can handle a T8 2050kV in a Ve8 (weight around 3550g).
I know the MMP is not dedicated to that, but in Europe we need this brushless for most of our racetrack.
The MMP have a Nice footrpint and I think it can made the work well, but I don't know if it can easily handle this kind of motor (the T8 2050kV is a delta wound that drain more current than the Wye wound)

Thanks for your answer

As long as you gear conservatively, I don't see a major problem with this. Being that it is a Delta wind, make sure you are running lowest timing (0°). That motor is very close to our 2650Kv motor, so it should be a good fit on a 3 or 4s LiPo setup. I wouldn't be too surprised to see the fan kick on from time to time. Let us know how that works out!

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

FastXR 10.20.2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike (Post 328560)
Its not Friday yet. :)

I can pretend its Friday and set the date on my computer to Friday. :whistle:

DarkRedemptor 10.21.2009 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 328565)
3.5KG = 7.8lbs, so I think the MMpro would do fine with the T8 motor- even being delta wound its still only 2050kv, pushing a pretty light vehicle. I would look in the MMPro beta testers thread and look at the feedback for more ideas.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert (Post 328582)
As long as you gear conservatively, I don't see a major problem with this. Being that it is a Delta wind, make sure you are running lowest timing (0°). That motor is very close to our 2650Kv motor, so it should be a good fit on a 3 or 4s LiPo setup. I wouldn't be too surprised to see the fan kick on from time to time. Let us know how that works out!

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support


Thanks for your answer, I will try the MMP

BrianG 10.21.2009 09:45 AM

Personally, the biggest advantage with the MMPro is the 6s capability. I like having a "1s" voltage headroom (for more leeway with braking spikes), so I would run 5s on a lower kv motor. Still gear conservatively and set the MMPro options to be gentle.

RC-Monster Mike 10.21.2009 09:57 AM

I agree with BrianG - a good quality 5s pack should allow the MMP to efficiently and safely provide good power. Time will tell how well it handles 1/8 buggies in the real world, but I tend to believe it should handle 'reasonably sane' 1/8 buggy duty rather well(no doubt there are people that will quickly find a way to kill it). :)

BrianG 10.21.2009 10:05 AM

There ya go! If the monster says it is so, then it is so! :smile:

People do run the regular MM in buggies (and the MMPro is pretty similar to the MM in current-handling), so 4s should work fine, but it will get warm. 5s on low kv is the way to go.

Or, if you want to use mechanical brakes, run the full 6s and an even lower kv motor (~1300-1500). If you want to retain motor brakes and run 6s, I would solder on an extra TVS/capacitor module to the power wires.

Ferret 10.21.2009 12:59 PM

Brien,
what values would you recommend for the TVS and capacitor?

Thanks,
Avner.

BrianG 10.21.2009 01:06 PM

For 6s usage, 35v low-ESR caps (you can tell by the 105*C rating). Actual capacitance varies. If I'm gonna add caps, I like to at least double what is currently on there. IIRC, the MMPro has 3x220uF caps (660uF total), so anything around that would work. You could get one cap or 2-3 smaller ones - doesn't matter (although I personally prefer mutiple smaller ones for better heat dissipation and transient response).

The TVS should be similar/same to what Castle puts on the MMM. Can't remember off the top of my head the exact part number though.

Or, you could get something like this: http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...ber=5685/135.0

snellemin 10.21.2009 01:32 PM

And if you decide to run low turn motors buy two or three of the Novak ones, if you can't build your own.

Thomas 10.22.2009 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 328672)
... If you want to retain motor brakes and run 6s, I would solder on an extra TVS/capacitor module to the power wires.

Just because it has a fan, doesn't necessarily mean it can't handle 6s and electrical brakes ;)

Or was that a problem with the beta units?

BrianG 10.22.2009 06:30 PM

Has nothing to do with it having a fan or not. :tongue:

suicideneil 10.22.2009 09:11 PM

5s is the new 6s, its a fashion thing, all the cool guys are going this route ... :wink:

FastXR 10.24.2009 08:34 AM

Well guys the MMPs are up and available for purchase in the RC-Monster store, I just ordered mine, can't wait to try it.

nitrostarter 10.24.2009 02:56 PM

I can't wait to try mine too!

Cain 10.27.2009 10:05 AM

Ok. I have heard of people getting these in already. So, does anyone have any info on the following usage of the MMPro:

- 4S 1/8 Buggy
- 1900Kv - 2200Kv motor (sensored info preferred but sensorless good too)

lincpimp 10.27.2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 328987)
5s is the new 6s, its a fashion thing, all the cool guys are going this route ... :wink:

Hmm, I always thought 5s was the new 4s.

I much prefer 5s to 4s lipo, the amp draw is considerably less, and everything just seems to run alot cooler. Plus you can get away with lower spec batteries if you desire, or just not push good batts as hard (they last longer that way).

drkdgglr 10.27.2009 04:55 PM

Got mine today:
http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/y...027_0180-1.jpg

whitrzac 10.29.2009 12:11 PM

Is anyone else having probs with the MMP when useing JR servos??

I have a 650m that causes the esc to flash lights, the light on the RX blinks, and the servo twitches to the right...

BTW the servo works fine on my RX8, and MM

brushlessboy16 10.29.2009 12:13 PM

what type of rx are you using?

whitrzac 10.29.2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 330064)
what type of rx are you using?

spek 3000

Thomas Porfert 10.29.2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitrzac (Post 330063)
Is anyone else having probs with the MMP when useing JR servos??

I have a 650m that causes the esc to flash lights, the light on the RX blinks, and the servo twitches to the right...

BTW the servo works fine on my RX8, and MM

So the JR 650M never operates correctly, the receiver doesn't bind with the TX, and all 3 LED's flash on the Pro? If this is the case, it sounds like the power coming from the Pro's BEC isn't operating correctly.

Does the problem occur when using a different servo?? If it does, then it's a problem with the Pro. If it only does it with that servo, it's a little more puzzling, especially since that servo works on other setups.

Let me know if you get any different results.

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support


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