ya Brian i've also thought of those innovations you speak of..lol i was thinkin making a hydrolic (battery operated) lift to lift the ramps of like back hoe trailors.. but then my boss said they have them already.. but what if i can make them for cheaper and of better quality using a different design?

Get rich quick= find a stupid rich person whos had their appendix removed, and convince them to buy yours as a replacement. :lol:

I like to dream up cool new inventions, but as with most things in life its kind expensive to develop and patent the idea (unless you go on tv shows like 'Dragons den').

for the longest time i wanted to make electromagnetic shocks and by controlling the current it would essentially make RC stability control, but the concept would work on even full size vehicles.--josh

I believe they have that already in 1:1 cars, or at least the concept. And I think they even use the shock's motion to generate power - regenerative suspension. In R/C, the benefit to power/weight ratio would be prohibitive unless it was in a large 1/5 scale+.

Bose has something like this: http://www.bose.com/controller?event...suspension.jsp. I also remember a R/C guy making one for his vehicle.

My audi has it... Electromagnetic suspension...

The shock oil has fine iron particles in it - it uses an electromagnet to create a field around the pistons - greater the charge the slower the oil will react and alter the handling...

In one of my RC scripts (no clue which one?) they have a "Sneak Peak"/"Spy Shots" section and I seen something magnet related for RC Shocks.
If theres intrest I look further into this and post whjat I have availible.

i knew it was out there but i didnt know it was this advanced,i didnt even think cars had any sort of electro magnetic suspension,and bondonutz,provide what ever you can,they sound cool.--josh

yeah!!
grab a nice round neodynium magnet and place in the shock cap, get another and attach to the shock shaft and you are set :lol: simple

Well this is my patent...

http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20080249816

I think that's the one I was referring to...

When I was working for dowty aerospace we were pitched the solution for landing gear - You need landing gear to be almost rock hard for landing and then softer during taxiing.

The issue is that you need to apply electromagnet to get the hard setting - fail safe would therefore be to soft... Not good...

It also adds weight as oil is much heavier - This solution is used for a lot of truck cab seats to reduce vibration and fatigue IIRC

I will, bare w/me and I'll search 4 it.

Not quite that simple that would cause the fluid to thicken and you would have maximum resistance. You would need to vary the magnets distance from the shock body to vary the dampening.

I saw electromagnetic shocks on Discovery Channel, TLC or something like that a few years ago. They were installing the system in a Humvee. They even had a demonstration with a pan of fluid and the electromagnetic element of the shock. They dipped the shock into the fluid and turned up a power source. The fluid formed around it and as they turned down the source the fluid dropped away in chunks like adding water to mud. I thought of doing something like this for my RC also. I have it all worked out even have a full bottle of ferro fluid. I was going to use a servo to turn the pot on a DC motor control kit or a brushed speed control. the coils around the shocks would require shorter springs so the coils could be around the middle of the shock bodies. I still want to do this (and a bunch of other things) but I get sidetracked easily esp. with work. The only idea I have that someone has not already brought to market is the one I mentioned earlier.

I know its Wiki but here is a link with some info:

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu8v3GR...logical_damper


Jeff

SAFRAN Group Dowty? Nice. I sold a few stuff to Hispano-Suiza and never quoted prices for wires and connectors to Labinal. Good companies.

Yes it is now - used to be just dowty - then bought by messier and now part of SAFRAN.

This was going back 16 years or so...

Was it this one?

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachme...s-img_9063.jpg

There is a big thread about these shocks on RCTech But there is not much infomation about how it works. They don't want to let much info out about them until they are released. Aparantly the magnets let you use really thin oil without chassis slapping too much over bumps and jumps.
The guy designing them ("tex1" on rctech) aslo made the Halo hopper used in paint ball, if that means anything to anyone.

Doesn't something similar already exist from Ferrari, Mercedes-Benz, etc.? Pretty sure I read something about them having something inside the shock where, once the "Sport" suspension is engaged, an electromagnet engages and stiffens up the shock. Not a 100% electromagnetic shock but it's kinda similar.

Thats it !
Glad I decided to check back befor I started going through all my mags to find it.

Yes its made by Delphi and called MagneRide and is in some Audi, Ferrari, GM, Acura, BMW, and Holden vehicles. In about 04' there was talk about using the technology in helicopters for vibration dampning. http://downloads.hindawi.com/journal...004/546845.pdf

Jeff

well i think i figured something to make me rich!.. lol but i dunno its worth a shot!.. and it involves improving the plastic outlet covers to prevent little kids from sticking anything in your outlets! haha.. small yet so many people would buy something like that..

Don't laugh, the simplest ideas are sometimes the best. Just look at the guy who come up with the little 3-legged plastic thing they use in pizza-boxes to help prevent the pizza from being crushed...

Oh you mean the anti Noid device!

You are 100% right Brian. I met the guy who invented the new water bottle cap and you should see his house in Florida.

thats 100% of the reason im trying to do this.. :lol: