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lincpimp 01.19.2010 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fastbaja5b (Post 344776)
Gotta warn you Freezebyte, the HPI Baja forums are not as forgiving as some of these other forums you have been posting in, your little HPI Warranty antics would not go down well, and there is a great deal more maintenance involved than you had with the Savage. I wonder if you're actually capable of running a Baja without having a meltdown emotionally! That said, they are slower but are still a lot of fun, you get better by learning and wrenching so I'd suggest a 5BSS for you over a 5T. I can swap an engine out now in my Baja in around an hour (far quicker than I was!)

Just have a std RTR Baja but with deanodized chassis etc, and a CY26cc in there now (not a hpi CY)

Nice looking Baja you got there! I had plenty of fun with mine (I think I just hate 2 stroke) just getting it started. I have a feeling the previous owner might have run straight gas in it, or maybe I am just poor at tuning 2 strokes... I would have kept it if husquavarna had made a motor for it. My 75cc husky chainsaw starts every time, no matter how old the fuel is... Maybe the upgrade motors are better than the hpi 23cc? I cannot imagine them being any worse.

And lol on the emotional meltdown... I had to laugh at that one. I wonder if freezy will have a smc rec pack? Or has he learned his lesson on crap batts?

Nothing against gas 2wd, but the flux is much more fun for me. And quieter. Just someting screwy about a "rc weedeater", even my shockwave 55 with the zenoah 26 gets on my nerves... And since the new house backs up to the water I will be getting on the neighbors nerves too! Need to finish the other 5 bl boats...

JERRY2KONE 01.19.2010 03:46 AM

Hey james.
 
Hey James at least when they piss you off now you can setup a ramp and launch your irritating R/C's right off into the water. If your lucky enough any of your crappy neighbors might be sitting in a boat at the time. I just had a vision of you launching Harold wearing a dress in his wheelchair off into the lake. Sorry Harold. You guys put that vision out there with your antics. Too funny:lol::rofl:

lincpimp 01.19.2010 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 344786)
Hey James at least when they piss you off now you can setup a ramp and launch your irritating R/C's right off into the water. If your lucky enough any of your crappy neighbors might be sitting in a boat at the time. I just had a vision of you launching Harold wearing a dress in his wheelchair off into the lake. Sorry Harold. You guys put that vision out there with your antics. Too funny:lol::rofl:

I needed that laugh Jerry. Good stuff. I can just see us strapping some sort of reworked (poorly) fireworks to Harold's wheely chair... I can see it going well till the rockets explode in a dazzling arry of colors...and Harold's singed ass lands in the water... or possibly in the neighbor's boat!

I will be there tomorrow afternoon and will try to get some pics for you guys. Nice house, maybe too much... You only live once!, right?!:mdr:

JERRY2KONE 01.19.2010 03:57 AM

Wow!!!
 
[QUOTE=lincpimp;344788]I needed that laugh Jerry. Good stuff. I can just see us strapping some sort of reworked (poorly) fireworks to Harold's wheely chair... I can see it going well till the rockets explode in a dazzling arry of colors...and Harold's singed ass lands in the water... or possibly in the neighbor's boat!

WOW that is even better than the vision that I saw. I bet Harold is going to laugh his but off when he reads this thread now. That is just tooo funny man. I knew you would come up with something that should be on U-Tube or something crazy like that. Sounds like a reason for a huge RCM gathering and BBQ. Pastrona doesn't have anything on Harolds stunt, or at least the stunt we have planned for him.:yipi::yes: We could sell tickets and just tell Harold to hang on for dear life, that everything will be just fine.:whistle: We love ya man.

Unsullied_Spy 01.19.2010 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 344773)
What the landlord doesn't know, won't hurt her. Hell, if you bring your ass up here this spring, you can show me up all you want. Just don't expect to leave with all your "stuff" :lol:

I wish I could get my 5T sooner so I could enjoy playing in the snow unlike my Flux. I could if I wasn't going to Vegas next month but priorities are priorities....

That's what we've been telling you on HBF for months! You threatening to steal my "stuff" or something? I already had 1 R/C stolen, not looking forward to getting another one lifted. I'll try to get about half a dozen of them in running order, that way it'll take me at least an hour to break them all to the point they can't be driven anymore and I have to drive 4 hours home :diablo:

Watch out for snow and water with the 5T, the radio box is sprinkle-resistant but that's about it and the throttle servo gets wet very quick. I have run my Baja in the snow a few times and each time it lasts about 5 minutes before the throttle servo tweaks out (and I still don't have a killswitch :oh:). Screw Vegas, you'll just lose a bunch of money and a kidney :lol: You could invest that money in a T and some goodies!

JERRY2KONE 01.19.2010 05:43 AM

Screw Vegas, you'll just lose a bunch of money and a kidney :lol: You could invest that money in a T and some goodies![/QUOTE]

BUT if he wins he can build a maxxed out T and over run everyone with his new toy.

Unsullied_Spy 01.19.2010 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 344799)
Screw Vegas, you'll just lose a bunch of money and a kidney :lol: You could invest that money in a T and some goodies!

BUT if he wins he can build a maxxed out T and over run everyone with his new toy.[/QUOTE]

Ohh come on, nobody wins big in Vegas....Gambling as a whole is just a money pit. The only people I know that routinely win lots of money gambling spend a ton more than what they won in order to get it. I just lost $25 tonight on video Keno, it's just a waste (and boring!) You get much more fun for your money out of an R/C.

JERRY2KONE 01.19.2010 06:50 AM

Agree
 
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Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 344802)
BUT if he wins he can build a maxxed out T and over run everyone with his new toy.

Ohh come on, nobody wins big in Vegas....Gambling as a whole is just a money pit. The only people I know that routinely win lots of money gambling spend a ton more than what they won in order to get it. I just lost $25 tonight on video Keno, it's just a waste (and boring!) You get much more fun for your money out of an R/C.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you about R/C being much more fun, but we have won every time we have gone to Vegas in the last 5 years. We win just enough to pay for the trip and then we quit. AND we only play the slot machines. We spend the rest fo the time going to the shows and just enjoying the atmosphere of Vegas. We went there during the summer holidays and spend time in the spa getting massages, and we saw the Terry Vator show, the George Wallace show, the Donnie & Marrie show and we won just over $3K on the slots. So we broke even once again. If you get greedy you will lose for sure. The best part is that the US Gov paid for our travel to and from for our annual R&R leave from Korea. When we got back there were three boxes of R/C stuff waiting for me.

Unsullied_Spy 01.19.2010 07:20 AM

Sounds like a great trip! I have never gambled in Vegas, seen some shows and walked the strip but the longest I've ever been there was 3 days. It would be fun to see how long you can make $5 last at one of the slot machines....they will bring you free booze all day if you're playing their machines. $5/day for all you can drink isn't a bad deal!

Freezebyte 01.19.2010 12:09 PM

I'm not into gambling. I"m still bitching about the first $5 I spent/lost my first time in Vegas last year at the nickel machines within 20 minutes. Whata freaking waste of time. Not even one hot as hell waitress girls came over to me, guess because I wasn't a high roller.

No, im going down their to see my girlfriend, have sex, see some bouncing fake titties and check out the sights.

billy gunn 01.19.2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 344779)
Nice looking Baja you got there! I had plenty of fun with mine (I think I just hate 2 stroke) just getting it started. I have a feeling the previous owner might have run straight gas in it, or maybe I am just poor at tuning 2 strokes... I would have kept it if husquavarna had made a motor for it. My 75cc husky chainsaw starts every time, no matter how old the fuel is... Maybe the upgrade motors are better than the hpi 23cc? I cannot imagine them being any worse.

And lol on the emotional meltdown... I had to laugh at that one. I wonder if freezy will have a smc rec pack? Or has he learned his lesson on crap batts?

Nothing against gas 2wd, but the flux is much more fun for me. And quieter. Just someting screwy about a "rc weedeater", even my shockwave 55 with the zenoah 26 gets on my nerves... And since the new house backs up to the water I will be getting on the neighbors nerves too! Need to finish the other 5 bl boats...

Ran fine after you sold it to me. Only ran once though, fired right up, played with the needles a little and it ran as well as one of the CY23s is going to run. Bought the baja for parts.

billy gunn 01.19.2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 344803)
Ohh come on, nobody wins big in Vegas....Gambling as a whole is just a money pit. The only people I know that routinely win lots of money gambling spend a ton more than what they won in order to get it. I just lost $25 tonight on video Keno, it's just a waste (and boring!) You get much more fun for your money out of an R/C.

I agree with you about R/C being much more fun, but we have won every time we have gone to Vegas in the last 5 years. We win just enough to pay for the trip and then we quit. AND we only play the slot machines. We spend the rest fo the time going to the shows and just enjoying the atmosphere of Vegas. We went there during the summer holidays and spend time in the spa getting massages, and we saw the Terry Vator show, the George Wallace show, the Donnie & Marrie show and we won just over $3K on the slots. So we broke even once again. If you get greedy you will lose for sure. The best part is that the US Gov paid for our travel to and from for our annual R&R leave from Korea. When we got back there were three boxes of R/C stuff waiting for me.

You have much better luck than me in Vegas. I think I have won once, broke even a couple times, and lost a majority. I'm the opposite of you though. I hate slots and play only table games.

JERRY2KONE 01.19.2010 07:13 PM

Issues
 
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Originally Posted by billy gunn (Post 344846)
You have much better luck than me in Vegas. I think I have won once, broke even a couple times, and lost a majority. I'm the opposite of you though. I hate slots and play only table games.

See this is the problem. The tables are run by a person who knows how to manipulate the cards no matter who sits down, and the roulette wheel is the biggest risk of all in any casino. The slots are rigged to win every so many cycles no matter who sits in front of them. It is all about numbers and the luck of the draw as far as which machine you sit in front of. I am willing to bet that they even have them rigged to win more often at certain times of the day when the most people are stroling through the casino floor. How many big winners do you really see leaving the tables? Very rare unless they are trying to sucker some big rollers onto the tables.

My wife and I set a limit for each of us every time we go there, and once we reach that limit the plan is to do other things like the shows or spas. My wife always hits first on one of the slots and things escelate from there. Once she hits we put the original biddings back into the old pocket book and leave them there for the remainder of the day/night. We have gone to Vegas every year since we got married in 2004, and have always left with more $$$$ than we arrived with, including paying for our hotel bill and whatever entertainment that we enjoy. We never try to win big and leave with a bank full of money. That is how people end up losing their homes and ending up deep in debt. If you measure the numbers of people who are actually playing compared to who is winning the casino is always watching and always winning. They have to let someone win just to sucker others in to spending their hard earned money.

billy gunn 01.19.2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 344896)
See this is the problem. The tables are run by a person who knows how to manipulate the cards no matter who sits down, and the roulette wheel is the biggest risk of all in any casino. The slots are rigged to win every so many cycles no matter who sits in front of them. It is all about numbers and the luck of the draw as far as which machine you sit in front of. I am willing to bet that they even have them rigged to win more often at certain times of the day when the most people are stroling through the casino floor. How many big winners do you really see leaving the tables? Very rare unless they are trying to sucker some big rollers onto the tables.

My wife and I set a limit for each of us every time we go there, and once we reach that limit the plan is to do other things like the shows or spas. My wife always hits first on one of the slots and things escelate from there. Once she hits we put the original biddings back into the old pocket book and leave them there for the remainder of the day/night. We have gone to Vegas every year since we got married in 2004, and have always left with more $$$$ than we arrived with, including paying for our hotel bill and whatever entertainment that we enjoy. We never try to win big and leave with a bank full of money. That is how people end up losing their homes and ending up deep in debt. If you measure the numbers of people who are actually playing compared to who is winning the casino is always watching and always winning. They have to let someone win just to sucker others in to spending their hard earned money.

That's very smart play. I play slots sometimes, but they are so damn boring if you aren't sitting in a big group of people that you know and can talk with. I play the tables to socialize and talk with people, not to try and win big.

I always set daily/trip limits for myself, as well as pay for everything on the trip with that cash so I know exactly how much my trip costs. Plus I tend to go to Vegas more for the atmosphere and shows. If I want to gamble I tend to go to Wendover, NV quite often. It's a shithole, but a quick drive from Salt Lake, and better odds/payouts at the tables. It makes for a fun evening if you like to gamble.

Good luck on your future Vegas trips. Hope your streak continues.:party:


And now, back to bajas. I just finished installing a GH alloy tranny case on my 5T as well as a Craftwerks titanium layshaft.:lol:

Slowkrawl 02.15.2010 01:37 PM

Well I have had the baja for a little over a month now, and am fully addicted to it. The savage hasn't been touched and is up for sale. I've already put about 2K into the baja, not including what I bought it for.

A few pics:

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http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._6725663_n.jpg

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Those are while it was pretty much stock. I have since upgraded to a futaba 3pm radio, with a killer rc kill switch so I can keep myself and others around me safe.

Along with:

BLEM hostile MX's all around with 250 kold kutter ice racing studs
proline desperado wheels
DDM enclosed clutch carrier
rear v2 dominator pipe

That's just a small portion of it, I forget everything I have put on it haha.

In the mail is an ONB full mod 30.5cc, along with all the drivetrain goodies from DDM
I have to call jet pro today to see if they are done a 5b pipe for me, they designed a pipe specifically for that motor but so far only for a 5t.

billy gunn 02.15.2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Slowkrawl (Post 350001)
Well I have had the baja for a little over a month now, and am fully addicted to it. The savage hasn't been touched and is up for sale. I've already put about 2K into the baja, not including what I bought it for.

A few pics:

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Those are while it was pretty much stock. I have since upgraded to a futaba 3pm radio, with a killer rc kill switch so I can keep myself and others around me safe.

Along with:

BLEM hostile MX's all around with 250 kold kutter ice racing studs
proline desperado wheels
DDM enclosed clutch carrier
rear v2 dominator pipe

That's just a small portion of it, I forget everything I have put on it haha.

In the mail is an ONB full mod 30.5cc, along with all the drivetrain goodies from DDM
I have to call jet pro today to see if they are done a 5b pipe for me, they designed a pipe specifically for that motor but so far only for a 5t.

I know the feeling, my other RCs are feeling pretty neglected right now too. I haven't really driven any of them lately since the weather isn't great right now.

Looks good, you are going to be happy with the ONB full mod. I have a ONB/TS reed 27.2 in my buggy, and it's a beast that revs forever. I'm seriously thinking of sending my crankcase back and having them do a TS 30.5 for me.

Freezebyte 02.15.2010 03:31 PM

If I wasn't going to Vegas this week, i'd have my 5T already. Owell....

Slowkrawl 02.15.2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by billy gunn (Post 350010)
I know the feeling, my other RCs are feeling pretty neglected right now too. I haven't really driven any of them lately since the weather isn't great right now.

Looks good, you are going to be happy with the ONB full mod. I have a ONB/TS reed 27.2 in my buggy, and it's a beast that revs forever. I'm seriously thinking of sending my crankcase back and having them do a TS 30.5 for me.

Are the reed cases really that much better? I am expecting my 30.5 to rev to just under 20K. Is TS the only person that makes a reed case or...? Still confused on that subject.

billy gunn 02.15.2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Slowkrawl (Post 350025)
Are the reed cases really that much better? I am expecting my 30.5 to rev to just under 20K. Is TS the only person that makes a reed case or...? Still confused on that subject.

Depending on what kind of porting you have ONB or any other porter do, the reed cases generally do not rev any higher. The TS cases generally just have better low-mid range power and response, not that its needed with the 30.5s. I would be pretty surprised if the full mod 30.5s hit 20k, i personally think that 19k is more reasonable estimate. Either way, should be a screaming engine with tons of power.

Trevor Simpson is the only person that I know of that makes a reed crankcase for baja application. ONB (and I'm sure other people do as well) sells engines that use a regular crankcase with the reed block on them, look at the "cylinder reed ported engines" section on their site. As far as being better, that depends on the person. There is a pretty big price premium for a case reed engine. Because of the reed valve the powerband is wider, hence the better low-mid range power. The top end is approximately equivalent between a piston port and a reed port of equal bore and stroke.

Unsullied_Spy 02.16.2010 03:17 AM

I've heard of people getting significantly higher RPMs out of reed case engines, like 21,000 out of a 25.4.

Freezebyte 02.16.2010 03:30 AM

Starting to have second thoughts on the Baja. Again.......

Nard Cox 02.16.2010 07:27 AM

Because?

Slowkrawl 02.16.2010 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 350123)
Starting to have second thoughts on the Baja. Again.......

If you havn't even bought it yet, and are second guessing yourself, don't buy it. Buy a used one or something. These trucks are cheap to run when they run, but they need a bit of money put into them to get them reliable enough. I bought mine a little over a month ago and not including buying it I am about $2000 into it, and I sure as hell don't have any fancy aluminum parts.

billy gunn 02.16.2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 350120)
I've heard of people getting significantly higher RPMs out of reed case engines, like 21,000 out of a 25.4.

21k out of a 25.4 isn't hard. The OBR full mod 27.2s are hitting 21k. My TS 27.2 should hit about 21k. It all depends on porting, how much the piston has been lightened etc. I was mostly generalizing how OBR does their porting since they are who build my engine and I have talked with them about their porting extensively. Their full-mods generally rev slightly higher than their reed ports, but you can have them port your engine however you want.

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Originally Posted by Slowkrawl (Post 350141)
If you havn't even bought it yet, and are second guessing yourself, don't buy it. Buy a used one or something. These trucks are cheap to run when they run, but they need a bit of money put into them to get them reliable enough. I bought mine a little over a month ago and not including buying it I am about $2000 into it, and I sure as hell don't have any fancy aluminum parts.

He isn't joking, mine on the first page is 4-5 grand now with all the aluminum and such, plus it started life as an original RTR with all purple. There is very little left from the original truck. Used may not be cheaper though, depending on upgrades they have done, and how much needs maintenance/replacing when you get it.

Freezebyte 02.16.2010 02:41 PM

There is no fooking way I'm gonna dump that much money into an RC vehicle.

bigsteel 02.16.2010 04:22 PM

you dont have to dump that much cash into a baja to love it more than any other RC you've got.to make a damn near bulletproof 5b you need just a little aluminum in the right places. TGN clutch setup,shock limiters,RPM arms,TGN axles and drive cups,TGN top plates and few more misc. things that will make it bulletproof.even the 23cc engine in my opinion with a DDM ported headkit and dominator pipe makes plenty of power.just my .02 --josh

lucias 02.16.2010 07:07 PM

I have thought about getting one of these in the past.. Do you like the baja more or the 5T? is there any advantage/disadvantages of one or the other?

bigsteel 02.16.2010 07:59 PM

the 5b and 5t are essentially the same truck,except the 5t has a 26cc fuelie (the 5b SS has one though...but no radio) and a few parts are a bit beefier.all-in-all a 5b can be turned into a 5t and vice versa.--josh

Slowkrawl 02.16.2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lucias (Post 350221)
I have thought about getting one of these in the past.. Do you like the baja more or the 5T? is there any advantage/disadvantages of one or the other?

Obviously since I own a 5b, I am a bit biased. But the cons of the 5T are they are several pounds heavier, if your worried about it. The other thing is the bodies are EXPENSIVE. One nice thing about the 5T is that the body can be used to protect and aftermarket pipe a bit more. The 5b side mount pipes look pretty exposed, but I have been told it really isn't that bad. I will let you guys know in a few weeks since I have one coming from ONB.

billy gunn 02.16.2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lucias (Post 350221)
I have thought about getting one of these in the past.. Do you like the baja more or the 5T? is there any advantage/disadvantages of one or the other?

I own both, I think they are both good. If I could only own one, I think I would choose my buggy. I like the look of the truck more, but the handling of the buggy better.

The difference is the appearance including the side trays, 19 vs. 20 tooth input gear in the transmission, and the engine if you compare to the RTR. The truck wheels have a little less offset and are narrower than the buggy wheels to keep the tires tucked in the fenders. A few other differences, but it is quite easy to change from a buggy to a truck or vice versa, cheaper to go from a truck to a buggy though. Also as mentioned bodies for the truck can be expensive.

Unsullied_Spy 02.17.2010 03:51 AM

Honestly, I think they're tough enough out of the box. Bryce: You've seen my YouTube vid of mine at the BMX track, that's basically the stock v1 RTR with some air filters and the DS/Sikk engine head. I think it's safe to say I beat the ever-loving piss out of it and it never broke. I was jumping it at my LHS from the corner of the building out into the street (landed upside down a few times and cracked my cooling shell a little, but that's just cosmetic) and still nothing broke, though I have some gouges in the chassis from hitting the ground so hard. I would go so far as to say it's the toughest RTR you will ever buy. Parts are pricey but damnit the Baja is worth it! A failsafe, good radio, some outterwears, and a pre-filter are really the basics for what you NEED to have on your Baja. Aluminum parts and pricey aftermarket upgrades are all just gravy and which ones you need (or want) depends on what you end up breaking the most.

Just run the thing with those few basic upgrades until you break it, when you break it you can either upgrade it to make it tougher or write off the breakage as normal wear and tear on a bashing RC. I must say, though, that the Turtle Racing HD Clutch System is the best money I've spent on my Baja. Very expensive but I will make that money back in time from no broken pinion bolts, longer clutch life, longer bearing life, etc.

Freezebyte 04.14.2010 12:24 AM

I may be late, but im part of the party now! :yipi:

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