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concreat 05.13.2010 05:11 AM

sounds fantastic, cant wait to see the rest of the build!

Cody.McP 05.21.2010 02:54 AM

Well, I just dropped the cash on a little Taig mill, just thought I'd update you guys. :yipi: Will still probably be quite a while before I get this thing done though, seeing as I have no machining experience whatsoever, haha.

suicideneil 05.21.2010 08:59 PM

Congrats, Im sure you'll get the hang of it quickly- half the challenge really just seems like knowing which tooling to use for a certain job, but there are plenty of forums for that kinda thing- the Candyman has a small mill and lathe too, which is handy for when Mike is busy & us guys need custom parts making... :whistle:

Chadworkz 05.22.2010 03:43 AM

This is/is going to be an awesome project/truck/truggy! I am not really a Savage person, but a true Savage Truggy will be "off-da-hook!" I think as long as you stay true to the real truggy design, this thing will be unrivaled! Not only will it have the high-performance of a truggy, it will have the legendary durability of a Savage!

The one thing I would change, though, is to use one of Mike's motor-mounts instead of that Tekno motor-mount...you will get a cleaner layout, lighter design, and adjusting gear-mesh will be much easier.

concreat 05.22.2010 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chadworkz (Post 366102)
This is/is going to be an awesome project/truck/truggy! I am not really a Savage person, but a true Savage Truggy will be "off-da-hook!" I think as long as you stay true to the real truggy design, this thing will be unrivaled! Not only will it have the high-performance of a truggy, it will have the legendary durability of a Savage!

The one thing I would change, though, is to use one of Mike's motor-mounts instead of that Tekno motor-mount...you will get a cleaner layout, lighter design, and adjusting gear-mesh will be much easier.


agreed 100%:mdr:

Cody.McP 05.30.2010 04:48 AM

So, the mill just came in the mail today. :yipi: Still have to get it set up and am waiting on the steppers/controller and such. My schedule is pretty free this next week so I hope to make decent headway into the world of CNC machining and get this thing started shortly after that. And as for the motor mount, I'm probably going to be making my own now, seeing as it wont really cost me much at all, and I can do what I really want with everything. I have to buy a new CAD program though as my Solidworks license just expired :( So it'll be a little while before I can show you guys what I'm doing. Not a big update really, just thought I'd let you guys know whats going on. :yes:

thzero 05.30.2010 11:13 AM

Got some pics? Thinking about doing similiar thing myself..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cody.McP (Post 360833)
Hmm I haven't seen any Truggy Savages but I'll be sure to give them a look. Reason why I want to make my own shock towers is also for upper arm link mounts so I can adjust the roll center if needed. I saw some Platinum RC lower COG Carbon Fiber shock towers that look pretty nice, but I'd only get them if I decide to not go for my own.
:


Chadworkz 05.30.2010 11:47 AM

Man, I can't wait until I get my CNC Machine (and of course, learn how to use it)...I will be making parts like mad, because I have access to unlimited Delrin scraps of all sizes, aluminum scraps of various sizes and types (6061 & 7075, both T6 Temper), titanium scraps of limited sizes, and carbon-fiber of my own, which I will just do the right thing and drop a load of cash on a bulk order of CF!

mckrill 06.01.2010 03:47 AM

I had this thought before starting my 14s project, very nice to see that someone is actually doing it - I will follow your project for sure :yipi:

Jahay 06.03.2010 10:01 AM

This looks like a great idea. Please keep the drawings as you should possibly think about getting this manufactured if it works out well. Will def keep savage owners excited. I like this idea a lot!!! MAKE ME ONE :)

Cody.McP 06.03.2010 04:13 PM

thzero - No pics of the Shock Towers, my Solidworks License expired so I can't really do/show any of my work right now. I'm going to be ordering the 2010 program/license by the end of the week hopefully, so soon enough I can post everything for you guys to see.

Chadworkz - Good luck on your purchase, it definitely is a whole hobby in itself though, it's hard for me not to get in over my head with this thing, so much information, not enough brainpower. :oh:

mckrill - Thanks for the kind words, I have been following your 14s project and it is just simply amazing. Can't wait to see what you do with it. :yes:

Jahay - After I get my own produced and perfected, shoot me a PM and I'll see what I can do. :wink:

Anyways, as far as updates go, I'm having a bunch of aluminum stock (6061, 7075) as well as some Delrin coming in the mail this week so I can be prepared to machine this out once I learn how to use CAM and get my CAD up and running. I made some test cuts with my mill just for fun yesterday too, it's just crazy watching this thing go! :yipi:

Chadworkz 06.05.2010 10:27 PM

Well, thanks to all of the classes I had to take for my degrees, I have quite a few that are needed, or will at least help, that should help when designing and then machining...CAD, DAC (part of CAD), Prototyping, Fast Prototyping, Strength of Materials, Drafting, Computer Drafting, all of the Civil & Mechanical Engineering classes, as well as all of the computer classes. Well, at least I hope it helps, and I hope I remember it all. CAD was still on Release-13 when I was in school!

Cody.McP 06.17.2010 09:34 PM

Just posting here to let you guys know that I haven't forgot about this project. I just got a job at a machine shop so my time has been/is going to be limited, but I'm still working on this thing! I'm actually putting 2 smaller projects before it though, as they are less complex and will help me learn my way around everything before I mess up a huge chassis plate. You'll see them on here soon ;) I'll post up the completed drawings for this project by this weekend to tide you guys over for now, sorry for the slow progress :/

Jahay 06.18.2010 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cody.McP (Post 363148)
Well I don't really have "access" so to speak, still going to cost me a fortune! The price you pay I guess. :oops:

Anyways, still some refining to do but all it is is some chamfering/hole making/fileting.. the easy stuff, to make it look pretty and to piece it together. :yes:
I'll keep working on it tonight and see what I can do! I just remembered I still have to make some shock towers for this thing, but those shouldn't take too long. Hope to have everything done tomorrow to send off!

Complete, with Mudguards (These are my own)
http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/...ageTruggy1.png

Mudguards off
http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/...ageTruggy2.png

Just the Chassis
http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/...ageTruggy3.png

Nice!!! Just keep us updated! i still like the idea of this chassis.... I can see why no one has really attempted it now... Its quite complex.

I was looking at the designs and notcied that you are going to have problems utilising the stock steering assembly unless you use one out of another car which has a flat chassis.

Also how are you going to mount the motor?
1.To the side of the centre diff to keep the LCG?
or
2.mount it above like using the universal diff/motor mount in the RCM Store?

I vote 1. for Low centre gravity reasons. Otherwise what the point in making a chassis like this.

Seriously i would love one myself when you are done!

suicideneil 06.18.2010 06:12 PM

I can see the slots in the chassis for the motor mount- to the left and infront of the CD, as you look at the image.

Jahay 06.18.2010 06:14 PM

there is nothing attaching the steering assembly to the top of the side of the chassis

Chadworkz 06.19.2010 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 370226)
I was looking at the designs and notcied that you are going to have problems utilising the stock steering assembly unless you use one out of another car which has a flat chassis.

You can see the holes on the chassis up front, surrounded by a little bit of circular material, where I assume he is going to install a two-post bellcrank style servo-saver/steering assembly. A UE GenIV SS would be awesome there!

http://www.unlimitedengineering.com/...tems/13601.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 370226)
Also how are you going to mount the motor?
1.To the side of the centre diff to keep the LCG?
or
2.mount it above like using the universal diff/motor mount in the RCM Store?

I vote 1. for Low centre gravity reasons. Otherwise what the point in making a chassis like this.

You can also see the 4 slotted holes in the chassis where he will mount the motor using a full-can motor-mount, like the Tekno conversion mount.

http://c0456141.cdn.cloudfiles.racks...kr/tkr4140.jpg
http://c0456141.cdn.cloudfiles.racks...r/tkr4136x.jpg
http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uplo...knolektron.jpg

H&P CUZTOM RC 07.12.2010 10:51 AM

project nitro savage
 
AYO. I HAVE A SAVAGE ALSO BUT MY HAS A LRP ZR.30. BUT WE ARE THINKIN THA SAME. I JUS LOVE THA LOOK OF ORANGE CARBON FIBER:intello:
BUT KEEP UP DA GOOD WERK BRO!!!!!

H&P CUZTOM RC 07.12.2010 10:53 AM

I have built tha lightest nitro savage yet!!!

Jahay 07.12.2010 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H&P CUZTOM RC (Post 372930)
I have built tha lightest nitro savage yet!!!

Well done... Can you create a thread about it?

Cody... Any update with your machining skills?Are they coming along?
I really REALLY want one... so when you are ready and have perfected the design they way you like it, give me a shout as i want dibs on the first few you produce :yipi:

Cody.McP 07.12.2010 03:22 PM

Hey, sorry guys for the lack of updates/progress, I have just been super swamped with work and family, I haven't been able to work on this project much at all, but I'm going to try and at least get the drawings done to tide you guys over before I leave for a much needed Vacation. I have a few surprises in store but hopefully you'll see them soon. :yes: This is going to be unlike anything out there right now. I'm working to make something really special here, but it's taking a lot more time than I thought, so just stick with me guys and you won't be disappointed.

toplakd 07.13.2010 02:00 PM

Yet another study

http://s6.mojalbum.com/oglasi-foto_2...m_17991376.jpg

H&P CUZTOM RC 08.03.2010 04:59 PM

Note i have just made adj rollcenter mounts for my savage and they werk great!!!!!! Hpi eat ya heart out for not selling thoes kit partz seprately!!!! "ha!"

Jahay 08.04.2010 04:56 AM

H&P please post pics in a seperate post as not to thread jack, but i am very curious to see what you have come with :)

Jahay 09.03.2010 05:57 AM

any updates on this project cody?

Jahay 10.29.2010 10:27 AM

hi cody... just wondering if there is any progress... otherwise i was wondering, if you dont mind me giving this a shot myself?

JThiessen 10.29.2010 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 385839)
............otherwise i was wondering, if you dont mind me giving this a shot myself?

Why would you ask that? Just do it....

toplakd 10.29.2010 03:48 PM

Interested in something like that?

http://s6.mojalbum.com/flux-truggy-f...5_18256834.jpg


Dejan

Kcaz25 10.29.2010 03:56 PM

That looks great!! It makes you wonder why HPI hasn't done this already.

JThiessen 10.29.2010 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kcaz25 (Post 385868)
That looks great!! It makes you wonder why HPI hasn't done this already.

Must of burned themselves on their first try at 1/8th Truggy (the Hellfire). Management sometimes has a long memory for financial losses......

toplakd 10.29.2010 05:23 PM

Why make truggy for 1000 people, if thay can make just another savage for the masses :)

Keep watching this post. The truggy will come.

thzero 10.29.2010 05:30 PM

All they have to do is rebadge the D8T... and done. Thats all they basically did with the Vorza.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 385873)
Must of burned themselves on their first try at 1/8th Truggy (the Hellfire). Management sometimes has a long memory for financial losses......


Chadworkz 10.29.2010 11:56 PM

Yea, sometimes people forget that Hot Bodies IS HPI, so HPI already has a few truggy platforms...D8T, 1/8 Lightning, 1/10 Lightning...

Cody.McP 10.30.2010 04:09 PM

Hi guys, sorry it's been so long since my last update. I've been really swamped with work and school and I've just had a lot of bad breaks recently with family and such. I also bought a pretty nice CNC mill, and long story short I was scammed out of 6 grand and no mill for me. So because of that I'm really short on time/money right now. :( That's what I get for being trusting, never going to make that mistake again.
I haven't forgotten about this project, and I will eventually finish it, but it's just going to take me awhile.

Jahay- Of course you can give this a shot yourself, other people have done Savage truggies and I'd be glad to help in any way I can. My computer crashed with all of my drawings but I have drawn up a few new things since then so I can try to finish them up a bit and send them to you if you'd like, I'll PM you.

toplakd- That looks really nice, I was going to go with a bracing setup like that but ultimately I'm going to go a different route. Are you going to get everything machined?

toplakd 10.30.2010 04:17 PM

Hi.

I will machine all parts myself.
Different route instead of braces? Are you going to make custom bulkheads?

Dejan

Cody.McP 10.30.2010 04:21 PM

I'm still planning on using braces, they're just going to be a little different than what yours are. I like your idea though. :yes:

toplakd 10.30.2010 04:23 PM

Yeah, that picture is allready out of date :)
I allready redesigned the front brace system, and now i'm working on the back.
What wheelbase do you plan to use?

Dejan

Cody.McP 10.30.2010 04:24 PM

I forget the actual wheelbase, but my chassis is planned to be a about 17.5 inches long IIRC.

toplakd 10.30.2010 04:30 PM

You measured your future dogbones (First post) from end to end or from pin to pin ?
Mine is currently 16,8 inch but I'm thinking about stretching it to 17,6 so I can add
bigger motor in the front, and use saddle packs setup at the back

Dejan

Cody.McP 10.30.2010 04:32 PM

I think it was pin to pin, but I'm not sure if those measurements still stand true with the changes to my chassis, so i wouldn't take those as accurate. :neutral:


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