There you go sikeston, you got the "Good Arct1k" stamp of approval. :lol:

All very good points for sure. I question, was a product lawyer involved in this venture? If not, not a good way to do things. Personally I wouldn't sell something with risks if I didn't have a lawyer involved advising me. Necessary evil in this day and age.

Which would equal even higher prices unfortunately...

That's the world we live in unfortunately. If you go into business for yourself without consulting with a lawyer and an accountant you are asking for problems. No matter how small having some one who can help you understand everything and make the right decisions is necessary.

The extra cost is nothing like the cost of making a bad decision and paying the penalties for that.

Do you think Mike has filed for his patents without using a lawyer? Do you think this cost doesn't get turned around back to us the consumer?

I know buddy! Just illustrating a possible reason why they might not have. Their prices are already high and complained about...

Being an accountant in a local firm, we see our fair share of new business as well as those who didn't consult professionals and now need help fixing everything.... Its amazing how fast it can go under when not paying the right taxes!!

I can answer this one for you Texas. NO!

Actually, I would be willing to bet these were ordered from the Manufacturer as single cell packs with NO Knowledge of the intended application or use. Then the boys at the "garage" designed their little connector thingies.

There is NO Manufacturer that would be willing to support this type of POOR Engineering Practice. In doing so, that Manufacturer would be at risk of a shared liability, in the event of a lawsuit of massive damage claims.

The Case on the Pack itself should be designed in a way that it CAN NOT be connected to another cell to create a short.

Reverse Polarity Protection MUST be made into the case design or Maxamps is asking for it!

One can only expect big problems when designing and "engineering" potential fireballs and selling them to kids.

Let's get for real.

Are we sooooooo starved for attention in this poor economy that it's ok to resort to something like this dangerous design?

I think it will be interesting to see if any other manufacturers start selling a similar design of lipo pack; I have a feeling they wont though. Just like no-one else has taken up Maxamp's method of (over)rating their lipos power output potential ( surge watts )...

I think they are trying to create new industry standards, when none are needed or wanted.

In considering all the possible scenarios, this worries me.

I am a toddler. Age 4.

"Big Brother has these neat trucks, much like mine. I have to push mine around, but Bubbies trucks go like fast like Dad's, only smaller.

Big Brother puts Blocks in his truck that look alot like my Legos. They snap together and everything.

Big Brother won't let me play with his trucks, but some day I will play with them. As soon as school starts, he will be gone during the day.

I will play with his trucks and stack his "Legos" just like he does."



What is going to happen as soon as Big Brother goes back to school and Mommy runs to answer the phone?

Remember, Dad is at work.

Even a Toddler can figure out how to stack these "Legos" up wrong.

Don't injure people in your quest for money or you will learn hard lessons, the hard way.

Why do we have health and safety standards for products?

They are creating something alright, along with the rules.

I dont see that happening, this system offers more cons than anything else.

More risk of miss conections, more risk of inbalance, more connector loses, bulkier packs, The so called "advantage of parallel charging" is the cover for the lack of balance connector ...

Get the right pack for your aplication and leave the legos for your kids

You guys all make some good points, but I see a fexibility in this system that might be useful. Right now I have differenent battery configurations and I usually buy a battery per vehicle or plane. Then the lipos might sit for a while before it gets some use. Sometimes they puff and I have to take apart the packs and rebuild them which is a pain and I have to come up with a new plan to get a higher voltage pack

Here if an individual cell puffs, then you just throw out the cell.

I'm not so sure mixing old and new cells is a bad idea. There is so much variance between cells that a cell thats been run 40 times might be in the same condition as a cell you just bought that wasnt quite right. Even new cells dont discharge at exactly the same rate.

Couldnt the same be done by just selling single cells with a separate connector on each one and then using series or parallel connectors to get the same result? That might be a better idea. You can charge the cells separately so you each cells charges to its maximum, no risk of missed connections. You could buy some heavy duty discharge batteries that would work in all your applications from large to small.

OK, done some more thinking about this.

What you need are connectors that are polarized, so they can only plug neg to pos to avoid incorrect wiring. You also need those connectors solidly attached to the cells. I think a piece of flat plastic that the cell is double stick taped to, then the connectors are glued/screwed to that. Then the whole thing is shrink wrapped. Each cell is made like that.

I would like to see the connectors stick out so they can just plug into each other without the need for addl jumpers. This would limit the number of connections. Not sp easy to do, as the cells have to be flipped over to get the pos and negative tabs in the correct orientation to run in series. So the cells would have to be used in order. You would have a cell with the pos on the left and neg on the right, and the next cell would be flipped. So all even cells in a pack would be wired one way, and the odds wired the other.

So maxamps method of having female connectors pointed out the sides was a way to get all of the cells wired the same way. Not the best as the tray would have to be wider or cut out at those locations.

My next idea would be a 2 piece battery case. Imagine a traveling soap dish, where the top fits snugly over the bottom and you will get the idea. If the sides were made long enough it could accommodate different numbers of cells in series. Then the chassis would not require a battery tray, just straps to hold the case to the chassis. Put some velcro on the chassis and on the bottom of the tray, and use some chassis mounted velcro cinch straps to hold it down. Cells would be completely protected, and no weight would be added over a std battery and tray setup. Plus you could make this idea a quick change by mounting female connectors to the underside of the tray, and the male connectors wired to the esc mounted to the chassis. This is all based on a 1/8 truggy/buggy layout, and would work well for racing. You could even work out some sort of latch arrangement so that getting the battery out would be even faster.

I read something on the youtube video comments that says they arent going with banana plugs anymore, but a different type of connector instead. They may still be tweaking their design.

How about we get all the RC car manufactures to standardize on battery trays. Then we wouldnt need so many different size batteries for so many different configurations. But I guess the battery manufactures like it like that so they can sell more batteries.

Yes, they have changed their connector to eliminate dead shorting the cells.

Someone must have had an accident right there in the garage. LOL

Well I guess they are finally listening to the educated public...

Well, that proves we're all a bunch of over-reactionary idiots. No wonder they hate listening to us. WTF do we know?

Must be their new marketing director making the difference.:lol: