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thzero 01.12.2011 06:05 PM

If its closer to 22" you'll probably be just fine. I know I had at the LHS a 5T body on my TCS Crawlers 5T conversion and while it worked well, it was definetly huge. Unfortunately didn't get any pics, doh.

Due to the construction differences, the 5B body, is actually a tad short by about an inch. So you could probably run a 22" wheelbase to get it to better fit. I'm having to run about a 22" wheelbase, because of available dogbones, myself as I convert to a center diff. But it helps with using the 5B body and rollcage.

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 393616)
The baja body I have is the proline body 5t body that fits the 5b. Not sure if the wheelbase is different, but I will have a finalized dimension when I put the rc alloys front driveshaft in and measure the result. Will do that later and see how the body looks. But rough math puts me somewhere around 22 to 21.5" for wheelbase.


Overdriven 01.12.2011 06:49 PM

The 5t body actually looks a little better with the 1/2" shorter wheelbase. On the Baja the wheelbase actually shortens slightly when the suspension is compressed because of the kickup in the front of the chassis. With a 4wd MT chassis this isn't usually the case and the tires can be centered more in the wheelwell of the body as a result. I know the Proline body Linc has was considered a conversion body for the 5b and is shaped slightly differently in a few areas. Either way, should do whatever "looks right" for his combination. I just know on my 5T bodied Revo build, the 1/2" shorter wheelbase centered the tires in the wheelwells better IMO.

lincpimp 01.12.2011 08:50 PM

Well, I did a makeshift chassis by clamping 2 tvps together and fitted the custom driveshafts I have. Wheelbase ended up at 21.5, and that looks perfect with the 5t body I have on it. So that is what the new tvps will be cut to.

I was getting a bit disappointed with the 19" wb truck, and really considered ditching the project. But after seeing it with the 5t body on I am ready to do more work.

thzero 01.12.2011 09:33 PM

Cool. What are you doing your chassis in? Aluminum? Carbon Fiber? And what thickness?

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 393645)
Well, I did a makeshift chassis by clamping 2 tvps together and fitted the custom driveshafts I have. Wheelbase ended up at 21.5, and that looks perfect with the 5t body I have on it. So that is what the new tvps will be cut to.

I was getting a bit disappointed with the 19" wb truck, and really considered ditching the project. But after seeing it with the 5t body on I am ready to do more work.


lincpimp 01.12.2011 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thzero (Post 393657)
Cool. What are you doing your chassis in? Aluminum? Carbon Fiber? And what thickness?

Aluminum, 6061. Not sure on the thickness, must be slightly thicker than the stock flux tvps. I plan to make a full length skidplate for the bottom and to tie the chassis together well between the bulks and the trans case. In the front I will have a crossbrace for the top of the steering posts and a few more cross braces for the battery platform. Behind the tranny there will be the stock nitro motor plate and braces, and a platform for the esc. I will also cut the right side tvp so it has a large window for the 1717 motor to stick thru. This will keep the cross section of the chassis thick. I would like to make some X braces to go between the tvps, behind the motor and behind the steering posts. Might just use some thick al for those. I want to make sure the chassis is strong in all directions, and in torsion too.

Semi Pro 01.13.2011 03:24 PM

im glad you are back at it

lincpimp 01.21.2011 01:01 AM

Ok, lets talk chassis material. Guessing the stock tvps are about 3mm - 1/8". So I am thinking something like 4mm would be good. Probably 6061 al, as it is cheap and easy to cut with the tools I have. I have read that people think 5mm is overkill, and I am inclinded to agree.

As far as tvp design, I figured I would match the profile of my 19" wb savvy chassis, and alter it to fit the battery location, and clearance it for the motor on that side. I may make cutouts to lighten it, but that is more work and I am not sure if it is really necessary. I guess when I weigh it assembled I will decide if it is needed.

Time to scour ebay for some deals...

lincpimp 01.21.2011 01:28 AM

Ok, whatcha think about this?

6061 t6 sheet, 12x24", .160 thick, so right at 4mm. About 26 bucks shipped. Sound like a deal?

lincpimp 01.21.2011 02:10 AM

Oh, and I put together the other GH bulk today, as my other XL bulletproof diff setup arrived. A bit disappointed, the bulk had to be filed/saned quite a bit where the diff bearings sit. Took about 5mins to do, but took 15 to figure out where the problem was... So to recap, improperly finished threads in one, and so machining issues on the other. Everything else on them seems to be good, we will see how they hold up to a 21" plus chassis and 1717 power.

Dj_Sparky 01.21.2011 07:34 AM

Good deal sounds like. Do you buy materials locally or online? I've been looking for some cheap materials. Want to try making my own stuff as well.

And it's odd that you had to sand the GH bulk. I thought all the Savages shared the exact bulkhead/diff area dimensions.

Jahay 01.21.2011 07:49 AM

the only problems i had with my bulks were that the threads for the sway bars were not tapped...
They will definitely hold up to the 1717 power. THey are awesome bulks!

thzero 01.21.2011 09:53 AM

The TCS Crawlers TVPs are about 5.25mm, probably a bit of an overkill. I'd say 4mm is probably ok.

I'm trying out 3.5mm carbon fiber myself.

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 394730)
Ok, lets talk chassis material. Guessing the stock tvps are about 3mm - 1/8". So I am thinking something like 4mm would be good. Probably 6061 al, as it is cheap and easy to cut with the tools I have. I have read that people think 5mm is overkill, and I am inclinded to agree.


Jahay 01.21.2011 10:57 AM

4mm alloy would be plenty! 5mm is definitely un necessary!!! added extra weight too...

lincpimp 01.21.2011 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky (Post 394747)
Good deal sounds like. Do you buy materials locally or online? I've been looking for some cheap materials. Want to try making my own stuff as well.

And it's odd that you had to sand the GH bulk. I thought all the Savages shared the exact bulkhead/diff area dimensions.

I just go to ebay, best prices i have seen so far.

The bulk was not made correctly, that is why i had to sand it.

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Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 394750)
the only problems i had with my bulks were that the threads for the sway bars were not tapped...
They will definitely hold up to the 1717 power. THey are awesome bulks!

Good to hear.

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Originally Posted by thzero (Post 394755)
The TCS Crawlers TVPs are about 5.25mm, probably a bit of an overkill. I'd say 4mm is probably ok.

I'm trying out 3.5mm carbon fiber myself.

Sounds like fun. I am not really familiar with cf

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Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 394760)
4mm alloy would be plenty! 5mm is definitely un necessary!!! added extra weight too...

Yeah, I was worried about the extra weight, especially since I might not cut alot of windows in the chassis.


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