*Grumble grumble*

Well, I'd put it down to the traxxas batteries maybe then- would be nice to see some eagletree data on his failed runs.

All the same though, squirrel was stripped of his Moderator status & banned from the BYT forum for a good reason; the guy is really not as clued up as he makes out & has a really nasty personality when you get on the wrong side of him ( narcissism is just the tip of the iceberg.... ).

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All the same though, squirrel was stripped of his Moderator status & banned from the BYT forum for a good reason; the guy is really not as clued up as he makes out & has a really nasty personality when you get on the wrong side of him ( narcissism is just the tip of the iceberg.... ).[/QUOTE]

Defending Squirrel is the last thing you will catch me doing. I had a run in with that Jerk a couple years ago. You are right on with your comments. I was defending the Dean's plugs.

I find it funny/laughable that people don`t prep the tires with some sorta traction compound or tire warmers.Also people drive it on public streets that obviously have dips and cracks and then people are surprised that they have crashed or flip over/blow overs.The XO-1 is meant to be low to the ground and use aerodynamic effect to help achieve the 100 mph.
As for 1/8 buggies they are using shear horse power to get to these speeds and they don`t come RTR out of a box.






P.s. I think the OP is trolling or being meme

wait wait wait, so I shouldn't use Deans in my Baja 1/5 Brushless conversion?

...seriously even I knew that one! I think I have peeved off squirrel more than anyone, I am banned from the toyz forums, and the toyz owner has blocked me from purchasing from his store or his ebay id.

Whoopdedoo!

Another XO-1 blow-over & crash:

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That isn't air getting under the chassis. Thats called he hit a bump at high speed.

A bump the size of a pin head maybe- that is perfectly flat concrete afterall, not a cambered tarmac/ black-top side road; this is the issue we're talking about though, how unsuitable the XO-1 is for use anywhere besides a purpose-built track...

More lulz:

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The only video I consider a valid blow over you posted is the last one. And that one specifically states he did NOT use the splitter. You HAVE to use the splitter.

I don't see why people are complaining about the XO-1. 100mph is not joking around, and a 10.5lb car at 100mph and a flat pan chassis WILL lift if air gets underneath it. Traxxas didn't put the splitter there for no reason, and they tell you to USE IT. And if you hit a bump at 100mph it WILL catch air. It doesn't take much more than a centimeter or two extra gap to lift the car at 100.

So all this complaining about the XO-1 is stupid. Its not like the problems people are having are unexpected and have never been encountered. If you are gonna make a 100mph run dial down the dual rate, and take care with the throttle.

I crashed my truggy at 36mph the first time I attempted to roll into the throttle on 6S. It was a combination of cold/damp pavement, cold tires, and a throttle curve I hadn't mastered yet. Now I can handle the car on 6S with little trouble. I know how fast I can feed it throttle input before shocking the tires loose.

Now you see why I said none of the xo1s I raced even finished a race.the xo1 is a waste of money its a bad set up per iod y
ou pay 1000$ for a maserati body and plastic

It lifted and destroyed at 40mph yep yep thats traxxas

No, its actually easier to drive than a modified DM-1, Inferno GT, or otherwise vehicle would be. The aerodynamics package Traxxas created WORKs, but that doesn't mean Joe Dummy off the street can drive it. Nor does it mean that nothing can upset the car. Pavement imperfections, rocks, and the like will still cause problems for ANY similar scale car traveling at those speeds.

Properly driven, it works right. What would happen if you put your 100mph buggy in the hands of anyone on the street? Do you honestly think they could drive it like you can?

there is nothing wrong with the design of the car, all the videos show people that have little or no. control over the car. Most look like they have no idea what dual rate is, you can't just go from a car that tops out around 40 to a 100 mph car without a learning curve. Just. because the car is smaller physics still maters.

I agree - the drivers in those videos looked pretty suspect on their 35mph "warm up". No RC this size will make it to 100mph without a smooth surface and a smooth driver, regardless of what is says on the box. Replacement parts should be popular at hobby stores! :)

Traxxas should of equipped it with a gyro for stability
mabey then people will stop bouncing from curb to curb. People also forget set up of the car is paramount at those speeds, alignment, ride hight, preload on shocks etc etc matter remember a 100mph is 700mph scale speed a damper low on oil will cause the car to be unstable and these are rtr cars do think that the person assembling these really care about proper set up?

Wrong- speed does not scale like size does- it's only doing ~270mph scale speed.

Like I said from the start though, this is the wrong car at the wrong time from traxxas; trying to market it as experts only ( by having an insane price... ) is stupid as rich idiots will buy it, thinking they can drive it down the street at 100mph without doing any work what so ever to the setup & radio. Heck, I have dual rates set up on my ~40mph MTs that run offroad when I do straight line runs...

Scale is an odd word in RC. What is a 1/10th scale TC a scale model of exactly? What model car? The basic rule of scale is that it takes 10 1/10th scale cars to equal the length of 1 full size similar type car. But with the different makes and models its a very broad term.

But if you want to fall into that category than a 1/7th scale car like the XO-1 at 100mph is doing a scale speed of 700mph. Its true and not true at the same time. Since at 100mph the aerodynamic forces acting on the car are 100mph forces, and not 700mph forces which is near Supersonic at sea-level.

Look at what happens to this famous clip of a Porsche GT1 flipping at Road Atlanta. I believe the turn is just coming out of the Esses after turn 5. Which means he likely isn't going much more than 140mph but its hard to tell with the camera zoom. But just like the last Traxxas video posted air got underneath the car, not much. But it was enough to act as a wedge and lift the nose more. The more it lifted, the more air pressure there was under the car and the more area the air pressure had to act directly against. Hence the GT1 took flight.

If the air can FLIP a full sized race car why is it so surprising that it can do the same to a 1/7th scale model traveling at 100mph?

Wrong & wronger :lol:

http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/scalespeed.html

Like I said- speed does not scale like size; you can't multiply 100mph by 7 times just because the xo-1 is 1:7 scale, there is far more complicated maths involved in calculating the speed other than relative size... :yes:

Anyway, about that Squirrel fellow & a few of us guys not being able to point out why he is so wrong on numerous aspects of r/c, plus just being an arse-hat in general; he signed up to this forum a while back:

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/member.php?u=1698

squirreltoyz@hotmaill.com
dilbeckb@yahoo.com

Feel free, to do with that information, what you please...

I have to disagree. Ive been all over google and not once did anything say that scale size multiplied by actual speed does not equal scale speed.

Not True
 

Not true Cmac, I love my Losi 8 for that reason, it is completely stable at all speeds. I've had my losi 8 up to 113 MPH so smooth and stable it's not even funny. Just look at my videos. I have one pass at 106mph and it's a cadillac going down the street. So if you guys have any doughts about the stability of a buggy, i just proved it..

Not a bump
 

hey 89GTA, I held the camera in this video and this pass and I can tell you it was a blow-over. It just looks like a crack but it's smooth and we drive our high speed buggies there all the time.They never flip at 110mph and no problem. The XO-1 just flips all the time a pinch of air gets under it. My friend got rid of it right away...

I love that website, brilliant idea.

This is my car and my video, the street you see is smooth as glass, the line in the road is a water pipe that was installed a few years but the street is perfectly matched. My and my friends have used this street for years with out issues for cars over 100mph

The problem in my video is air under the car, not the street!! :)

Exactly right these guys on here have never even touched a xo1 ive beaten three and driven one the body is flemzey as a zephyrhills water bottle thats empty.

^That. Traxxas does use very thin polycarbonate for it's shells, once you get up some kind of speed it'll be flexing and deforming all over the place due to the air pushing down on it = unstable. Chassis and shell flex is one of the issues Mr Case had initially, now he runs a CF chassis and a rather thick shell ( not sure if it's CF, GRP or just really thick lexan )...

Excellent Example........ Its tru

Me and my buddy tried to change the tires on his xo1 no luck you can only use traxas wheels

^^^ yup, one of these reasons I sold mine with a quickness, I put my grps on it and the car was basically on the ground..... Fail!!!


You going out to day to race your car?? Let me know I'm down to go!

I'm down. Meet in Minneapolis?:intello:

Um, that's a little far....... LOLOL

:lol: It's hard to find fellow enthusiasts in rural Minnesota:yes:

LOL, yes i can image!!

You ready for I-95 crazy car chasin speed huh ha hahhaa Ill call you later

That's good to know that it is possible to maintain stability at that speed. I myself have never driven a rc vehicle at those kind of speed. If I can find the right kind of place I might give it a trying. What kind of gearing, motor,esc,tires etc did you use for that kind of speed?

I'm in Lauderdale.. PM me with some info the next time you guys are gonna run.

Speed Run
 

Dude, come out to Doral on Sunday afternoons and do some speed runs with us. We have a perfect lond street that we do our speed runs on. 12th ave and 93 Court.

Never got the call!!! Did you end up running anyway

almost ready
 

I have addressed many of this cars shortcomings, and there are a few. Primarily the cut of the body, (to be expected), and the sloped section right behind the front splitter. At high speed the angled section behind the splitter is a great feature for creating lift. Maybe it was designed in to make the car more aero neutral, because I can't believe it was overlooked with as much development this car supposedly went through, but I think it is a good variable in the blow-overs that plague this car in running videos. The novice of the current drivers is probably a huge factor as well, but that goes without saying. The body has too much flex and is unsupported in key places in the front. Interestingly, if you keep cutting it down and lower the body mounts two holes, a lot of the flex goes away. It is almost solid enough for me to try it without bracing it, but I doubt it. The slots the sides sit down in also get a firm grasp once the flared section on the lexan is what seats there, after all the material below it has been removed. I have a few more secrets that I have done to it to improve the aero signature that I won't reveal, but I will say this. The front high downforce splitter should be reinforced at its widest points. Too much flex before any downforce produced there gets transferred to the chassis. Finally let's change out that motor and speed control, and bump this thing up to 8s.....

Interesting ideas myndseye....

I'm going to look into lowering the body, did you leave the rear the same?