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jayjay283 06.21.2015 03:06 PM

i'll need 2 of the 6's but how about a gofundme.com page to make a hundred gold standard 12s-16s? super expensive gold standard limited edition PDC super esc's ? look how long we have waited.

Pdelcast 06.22.2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 429557)
Pdelcast, Whats the possibilities of making a 1/16-1/18th esc with a 6s max limit? I like building low KV, high efficiency setup's. Right now the only one making that style esc, is MGM and they are too expensive for me. I like castle for my 1/10 stuff, but wish a less expensive alternative were available for smaller scales.

For those that say, there isn't a market. I'm sure these buyers, might be interested in a better esc.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...arehouse_.html

Yes that is a 4s setup in that truck

And Mamba Pro is too expensive to use in something like this?

Kcaz25 06.23.2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 429528)
Yes. Release will probably be early next week. We are planning to run a special for the very first production run... so keep tuned to our web page.

:rules: :yipi: :whistle:

crazyjr 06.23.2015 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 429588)
And Mamba Pro is too expensive to use in something like this?

Not too expensive, but size wise it's a nudge too big. Size wise it's smaller than the VXL3m, except slightly taller. But weight wise it's double the weight, 81 grams VS 37 grams

Kcaz25 06.23.2015 01:42 PM

I saw a mmm in a 1/16 revo once.

Pdelcast 06.23.2015 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 429599)
Not too expensive, but size wise it's a nudge too big. Size wise it's smaller than the VXL3m, except slightly taller. But weight wise it's double the weight, 81 grams VS 37 grams

Not really an apples to apples comparison. The VXL3M is a 25A maximum controller, with a maximum voltage of 3S.

The Mamba Pro is an 80A controller, with a maximum voltage of 6S.

I understand it's a nudge too big... I'll ask Jonathan about whether the Mamba Micro X can be used with 6S -- but I think the answer is "no"

Thanks!

phildogg 06.23.2015 07:31 PM

We still on track for a release this week?

Kcaz25 06.23.2015 07:55 PM

http://www.tenbol.com/images/mini_revo_no_cover_neu.JPG

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...v/DSC05297.jpg

Would be hard to get a body to fit, but I'm sure that could be done too.

You would have an easier time fitting a MMpro.

Anyway lets hear about this release!!

Pdelcast 06.23.2015 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by phildogg (Post 429604)
We still on track for a release this week?

It looks like yes -- I know it's been released to production, but I don't know the status of things like labels (I know we are still waiting on those...)

Thanks!

Patrick

Pdelcast 06.23.2015 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kcaz25 (Post 429605)
http://www.tenbol.com/images/mini_revo_no_cover_neu.JPG

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...v/DSC05297.jpg

Would be hard to get a body to fit, but I'm sure that could be done too.

You would have an easier time fitting a MMpro.

Anyway lets hear about this release!!

Insane! I love it!

Dr_T 06.24.2015 05:36 AM

Haha, that MERV is badass. Mamba Max Pro with fan chopped-off has been working very well in my mini 8ight; one of the few (only?) that has high enough commutation speed to drive a 6-pole outrunner (lightweight! makes up a bit for heavier ESC) to >50k RPM on 4S :).

http://www.rctech.net/forum/members/...photo-1-78.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kcaz25 (Post 429605)
Anyway lets hear about this release!!

Yes, on topic: been F5-ing Castles's website from Monday :D!

outlaw 06.24.2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 429527)

Hi Patrick,

can't wait to have one on hand
what size is the new X ? H/W/L

crazyjr 06.24.2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_T (Post 429608)
Haha, that MERV is badass. Mamba Max Pro with fan chopped-off has been working very well in my mini 8ight; one of the few (only?) that has high enough commutation speed to drive a 6-pole outrunner (lightweight! makes up a bit for heavier ESC) to >50k RPM on 4S :).

http://www.rctech.net/forum/members/...photo-1-78.jpg



Yes, on topic: been F5-ing Castles's website from Monday :D!

I didn't know a MM pro could be run without the fan, without voiding the warranty. That is my main concern, if doing it. Knocking the fan off would help weight though

That is my plan though, either outrunners or fairly low KV motors (1000-1200kv)

Dr_T 06.24.2015 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 429613)
I didn't know a MM pro could be run without the fan, without voiding the warranty. That is my main concern, if doing it. Knocking the fan off would help weight though

In a mini it will hardly warm up; not sure if it voids warranty, if you're concerned with that, there's the Once Cell edition: http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...o-onecell.html, doesn't have a BEC though either.

crazyjr 06.24.2015 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_T (Post 429614)
In a mini it will hardly warm up; not sure if it voids warranty, if you're concerned with that, there's the Once Cell edition: http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...o-onecell.html, doesn't have a BEC though either.

The warranty would be void with anything over 1 cell to i bet

outlaw 06.25.2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 429615)
The warranty would be void with anything over 1 cell to i bet

nope

Kcaz25 06.26.2015 12:55 PM

I am wanting to get some more going on this thread soo.

Does this mean that there is a new unreleased Traxxas vehicle(s) that this corresponds to?

-Zach

phildogg 06.29.2015 08:03 AM

I think we missed the release of early last week, any new info on when they may be available?

Pdelcast 06.29.2015 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phildogg (Post 429638)
I think we missed the release of early last week, any new info on when they may be available?

We delayed release to production due to a firmware issue.

Release to production (and official announcements!) will be this week.

Thanks!

Pdelcast 06.29.2015 07:28 PM

Up now.

http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...monster_x.html

Kcaz25 06.29.2015 08:28 PM

Awesome!

Mr E-Maxx 07.19.2015 01:38 PM

Hi,

can I use the new ESC with a 6 Pole Motor like the Tenshock X812L? Is it possible to use the Sensor too at this Motor?

Pdelcast 07.20.2015 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr E-Maxx (Post 429734)
Hi,

can I use the new ESC with a 6 Pole Motor like the Tenshock X812L? Is it possible to use the Sensor too at this Motor?

It's compatible with any motor, and with any sensored motor.

Thanks!

Patrick

Pdelcast 07.20.2015 12:23 PM

First units shipped Friday!!!

More shipping today!

nitrostarter 07.25.2015 09:48 AM

Patrick will these new units be making into the RTR vehicles from Traxxas? I'm sure they would love to advertise the brushless Maxx and Revo as waterproof.

ruudxd 07.25.2015 10:26 AM

They already do that, they have the MMM2 in but then in a blue case:

https://traxxas.com/products/models/...less?t=details

nitrostarter 07.25.2015 08:59 PM

Never mind... I'm behind the times.

Pdelcast 07.31.2015 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 429774)
Patrick will these new units be making into the RTR vehicles from Traxxas? I'm sure they would love to advertise the brushless Maxx and Revo as waterproof.

I'd love to get the X series into Traxxas vehicles, but I can't get any response from Traxxas.

I've been trying to get someone at Traxxas to return phone calls/emails for weeks. /shrug

Kcaz25 07.31.2015 11:17 PM

That's so crazy! I am sorry to hear this.

mwe-maxxowner 08.02.2015 02:44 PM

I'm so excited about this esc. I tend to do different things with my vehicle periodically, for example sct to truggy to monster truck to trail truck to speed demon to bored to something else.

So, when I purchase an esc, I love for it to be capable of anything. I've wanted a sensored mamba monster for some time. I have a g force 2250 sensored motor I tried to run in a telluride off of a mmp, but it drew too many amps. Now I'll have a sensored option that already works with all the castle link stuff I have.

I am also hoping the telemetry stuff can work with traxxas stuff and the tqi linked to my phone?

Lizard 08.05.2015 03:41 PM

There is some logged data on the brand new ESC already. Is that some kind of testrun on a bench? Looks interesting.

Dragonfueled 08.06.2015 01:20 AM

Hi just got to play with my monster x and have a few questions.

I did the kv test on my 2650 and it came up as 3250. Wouldn't that make the motor a 1600 kv motor? That was with no pinion just the motor spinning. It's a new castle 2650.

Does it matter what I set torque control to on the castle link when I assign the aux wire to torque control?
Or does setting the aux wire ser to torque control overide Whatever I have it set on the castle link.

On the aux wire it seems to work from neutral to full negative travel. Does positive travel do anything? Like is neutral basically torque control disabled and full negative travel full torque control?

Lizard 08.06.2015 04:08 AM

This is what the help text in the CastleLink software says:
Quote:

Torque Control Adjustment
The controller's torque limit is controlled by the AUX wire signal. The torque control is scaled from 0.1 at 1.1ms signal received on the AUX wire to 5.0 at 1.9ms. Torque control is disabled when the input exceeds 1.9ms. If the AUX wire becomes disconnected, the controller will use the torque limit set in Castle Link.
It depends on your radio make and model what the 3rd channel does. And of course how it is configured. The range for "servo signals" is usually from around 1.0ms to 2.0ms (depends on make and model, there is no real standard). E.g. the throttle channel gives 1.0ms at full brake, 1.5ms at neutral and 2.0ms at full throttle.

This box can read out the signal from the receiver channels and show the ms values, makes it a lot easier, sometimes it's hard to tell from the manual what the extra channels do exactly.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ogram_Box.html



Here is the log already on the Monster X:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...f.jpg~original

Dragonfueled 08.06.2015 07:18 AM

Ahh ok so I guess .2 to 5.0 is the common settings for torque control. I'll set mine at like 8 in the castle link to give me a nice range if I want less torque control by disconnecting the wire. And I'm using a 4pls futaba

Anyone do a kv test and get weird numbers like me?

Dr_T 08.07.2015 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizard (Post 429836)
Here is the log already on the Monster X:

Cool you got yours already! Will try and pick mine up at Customs next week. Looking forward to your first impressions.

I remember my XL2 had some bench log on it too. What's interesting is that yours shows max Voltage 32.3V?

Dragonfueled 08.07.2015 04:10 PM

Maybe it's me but wow the start up is really smooth. My old monsters would kinda leap forward from a start. This one has a nice slow almost sensored like start.
Torque control works better to. Old monster had a weird delay in power where this one is consistent . So far I really like the small improvements Over the old monster.

Is there a way to know what number torque control I'm using when using the aux wire to control it? will the controller remember what setting it was on when I plug into my laptop?

Lizard 08.08.2015 05:05 AM

What firmware where you running on the old Mamba Monster, dragonfueled?

From my experience, v1.24 is quite smooth, between 1.24 and 1.45 it was cogging pretty bad, from 1.45 on it got a lot better but still not as smooth as the v1.24. If it's as smooth as the old v1.24 that would be really cool.


Dr.T: Yeah, it arrived pretty quickly.
Have also seen the 32V in the log and hoped for 7s. But there is no throttle applied during that time, maybe that is for a reason.

Really cool that Castle seems to do a benchtest on every ESC before selling it.

Lizard 08.08.2015 09:55 AM

Just tried the HPI Vorza ESC tray for the old Mamba Monster: It also works with the X. Hole spacing for the switch is different, but that's no big problem I guess ...

Thomas Porfert 08.10.2015 07:13 PM

What you are seeing is the testing done to the controller during the production process. After the board is populated and the wires attached it goes to "first test". We run the motor in reverse with no load and then forward on a 50 amp load for at least 5 seconds.

After the case and labels are attached and the ESC is potted (waterproofed) it goes in for "second test". We apply 20 then 30 volts and then run the same power test as before.

The last test is the low voltage cut-off test. You can see in the 3rd session where the voltage slowly steps down and then cuts off.

This is done to every single ESC that we manufacture.

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizard (Post 429834)
There is some logged data on the brand new ESC already. Is that some kind of testrun on a bench? Looks interesting.


Arct1k 08.11.2015 12:27 AM

Impressive 2min cycle testing time is quite a lot. What's the actual test failure rate dare I ask?


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