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tallyram 10.17.2006 06:45 PM

stock maxx and revo diff ratio is 2.85/1! hope this helps.

captain harlock 10.17.2006 08:02 PM

No wonder you're fast.
A center diff or a slipperential will add more speed, right?
Or is it just about handling?

tallyram 10.17.2006 08:24 PM

i'm not sure on that one.

squeeforever 10.17.2006 09:47 PM

No....It won't add speed....Just handling...You have to compensate for gearing when you change diffs or whatnot...

Promod 10.18.2006 12:29 PM

A center diff will give speed maybe not directly. There is less drivetrain drag with a center diff but not sure how much this helps in speed.
The center diff will give you the ablity to run a very high gear ratio. Much higher than you can get with a trans. Which equals higher speed in low rpm set ups. The best gain with the center diff is it will keep the front wheels on the ground(mostly:027: ).
That 1950/10 on 6s is what I would call a low RPM set up and will need a tall gear to get speed. Just keep adding gear to it and watch your temps. If it cogs your pulling the trigger to slow:) .

Thank you,
Promod

Serum 10.18.2006 12:33 PM

Yes, because of the ballooning tires, the front wheels get larger than the rears. Due to that, there is a relative large stress on the drivetrain. With a centerdiff this stress is taken away (for the biggest part, it is just sucked up by the 50K oil in the diff..)

and it looses weight as well.

Quote:

If it cogs your pulling the trigger to slow .
memorable quote..

captain harlock 10.18.2006 04:14 PM

I remember that you once recommended ducted tapes, Serum.
Where can I find them and how do you use them within the tires?
Also, Promod, the 2240 you are using produces more RPMs than my motor: 2240/10= 1480 1950/10= 1254.
To reach a speed such as a 55mph, with a slipperential or a centerdiff, I dont need to go very high in the number of teeth of the pinion, right?

Promod 10.18.2006 10:53 PM

Yes, that is correct with a center diff you can run a much smaller pinion to get the same gear ratio as a transmission.
Even with a center diff you will be surprised at how tall a gear it will take to reach 55 mph with your motor.


Thank you,
Promod

captain harlock 10.19.2006 12:47 PM

Then, probably I'll have to go up in cell count. Either 7 or 8s.
Torque will be rampageous, though.

tallyram 10.19.2006 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain harlock
Then, probably I'll have to go up in cell count. Either 7 or 8s.
Torque will be rampageous, though.

yep, learn to embrace it, lol! torque rules! i'm guessing you will love driving that truck on 7s or 8s. my 8t is loads of fun on 6s, and my quark will only work when the lipos are about half discharged.

captain harlock 10.20.2006 12:47 PM

But it'll be dangerous for the trucks drivetrain.

tallyram 10.20.2006 09:32 PM

you gotta pay to play!

Serum 10.21.2006 03:24 AM

I duct-taped the tires from the inside. wrapped it around twice.

On my site i have a short movie of the tires, showing the difference between the taped tires and the ones without tape.

here is the link to my site..

captain harlock 12.22.2006 12:11 PM

Guys,

I have something I need to make it clear.

The 149.18 controller is rated for 5 lipos maximum and I want to use 6s with it. The capacitors are rated for a pure 25v and 6s would give something above that easily(25.2v). I'm sure now why the truck was stuttereing like crazy with the 6s evo20, 1950/10 and the 149.18. Its because of the higher voltage the controller is being supported by. When my lipos lost a few voltages, the truck's capabilities increased dramatically. Acceleration, torque and smoothness got much better. It still coggs very little, though, but I dont care.
Once the Monster Max is released, I'll be sure to get it and dip that schulze in the sea and kiss its wires goodbye.:)

neweuser 12.22.2006 03:43 PM

Get pics for Serums Gallery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

captain harlock 12.23.2006 12:38 AM

It's not blown up, yet.

neweuser 12.23.2006 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain harlock
It's not blown up, yet.

YET:005:

Serum 12.23.2006 05:43 AM

Arh, you can sell it on ebay for decent money and get a mamba maxx.

jhautz 12.23.2006 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
Arh, you can sell it on ebay for decent money and get a mamba maxx.

or a 9920 this week.

captain harlock 12.23.2006 09:08 PM

Mamba Max or probably the new Quark.

Serum 12.24.2006 05:09 AM

New quark? share your knowledge?

captain harlock 12.24.2006 09:28 AM

Jhautz said in one of the forums that he spoke with some of the people at Quark about the Monster-Pro being not very good with 6s and if there's gonna be any changes to the controller's software.

The guy, as far as I knew, does not have any plans in modifying the controller, but in accordance to Jhautz's statements, the guy said that they're developing a more powerful controller due to be released sometimes next year.

I think its good news.

It's gonna take a while, though.

coolhandcountry 12.24.2006 12:43 PM

Is this project on hold for now captain?
For a 1950 10t motor. I would run it on 8s lipo.
The motor would still be in the safe limits of rpm and stuff.
The power will go up as well.
It will be easier on the esc for it won't have all the amp draw needed for the
higher gearing. Less amps for same wattage. :D

captain harlock 12.24.2006 01:42 PM

My truck is only needing the monoblock and body.
Either than that, I'm using the g-maxx extention with my truck and it looks almost like the Mugen MBX5-T.

I'm also discussing with Mike the possibility of installing a 1/8 buggy/truggy stabalizer to the front end of my truck.

jhautz 12.24.2006 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain harlock
Jhautz said in one of the forums that he spoke with some of the people at Quark about the Monster-Pro being not very good with 6s and if there's gonna be any changes to the controller's software.

The guy, as far as I knew, does not have any plans in modifying the controller, but in accordance to Jhautz's statements, the guy said that they're developing a more powerful controller due to be released sometimes next year.

I think its good news.

It's gonna take a while, though.


Serum,

I was asking about a possible design revision to the 125 to help with heat disapation and the 6s issues and they told me that rather than revising the 125, they were going to come out with a new ESC designed for the large scale apps like we are using the 125 for. I guess the 125 was intended as the ultimate 1/10 but through the use of heat sinks we are finding it a good 1/8 or bigger esc. They basially said they were going to come out with a new ESC to add to the product line with better heat sinking and a more traditional package with the heat sink on top. It will be intended for the large scale apps like MTs and 1/8. He had no firm info on this, just that it was high on the list for 07 projects at Quark.

Now you know everything I know..... Not much. Just talk right now.

captain harlock 12.24.2006 09:26 PM

Thanks alot for backing me up.


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