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sleebus.jones 12.10.2006 11:48 PM

That's true, but like you, I wouldn't want to test it out!

Sleeb

crazyjr 12.10.2006 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG
Well, the difference here is that nbcaz is running LiMn, which are supposedly inherently safer, but I personally wouldn't want to test that theory...

I agree even if its safer, do we need to prove it is? It has lithium in it and it can still catch fire. If it were mine i wouldn't trust it near my friends, house or me

squeeforever 12.11.2006 12:57 AM

Ok, to be honest..I don't see why some of ya'll are waisting your breath...I have found out first hand that he is gonna do what ever the hell he wants and isn't gonna consider the consequences before hand...I wouldn't run them...But then again, I'm not him...I actually care about things other than my truck...Like my house, track, etc. Ncabz, ever consider this? How about considering this: If you're pack blows at the track, hurts somebody, say a little kid being the corner marshal, what then? That would be the end of the track since chances are the insurance company would drop them, the parents would sue, and the track could even catch fire...

MetalMan 12.11.2006 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr
I agree even if its safer, do we need to prove it is? It has lithium in it and it can still catch fire. If it were mine i wouldn't trust it near my friends, house or me

The Lithium in these batteries isn't the elemental Lithium you might have seen burning in some old video for sciene class. The Lithium in these batteries is in a compound, so it's different.

crazyjr 12.11.2006 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MetalMan
The Lithium in these batteries isn't the elemental Lithium you might have seen burning in some old video for sciene class. The Lithium in these batteries is in a compound, so it's different.

I understand, but nobody has had a meltdown yet, to my knowledge, so we don't yet know if it will seperate. I'm just warning to possibilities. even if it doesn't catch fire it can possibly release a superheated gas that can hurt him or somebody else.

I understand the chemestry is different, but batteries are batteries and are volitle in nature, if not treated with respect will hurt somebody/thing

Squee, I know it might not help, but if nobody does anything, We'll never hear the end of it

Why did nobody tell me of the dangers?, ect, ect

nbcaznmaster 12.11.2006 07:32 AM

alright! alright! i wont use em! maybe i could screw around with them and charge it on a nimh. See if it blows, and get a nice vid of it too. Of course i'll be safe!

crazyjr 12.11.2006 11:49 PM

It you're life, do as you please. All i was trying to do with the banter earlier was to keep other people and property safe. Like Squee said earlier you are going to do what you want, I was just trying to help you see the potential in your actions. With talk like that, you don't need Lipo/mn.

I'm tired of trying, this is my last post. Some people just don't need to play with fire.

squeeforever 12.12.2006 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr
I'm tired of trying, this is my last post. Some people just don't need to play with fire.

See why I said what I said :p.

BrianG 12.12.2006 12:08 AM

Well, as crazyjr said before, at least we did our civic duty by warning of the risks. If the person continues to pursue unsafe practices, at least they have been warned and can blame no one but themselves if/when something bad happens. Plus, maybe some nameless person was planning the same thing and the warnings helped them. Who knows.

nbcaz: I sincerely hope you do take the proper precautions if you decide to mess around with a bad pack. At least do it outside so the risk is only to yourself. Wear eye protection, etc.

coolhandcountry 12.12.2006 08:41 AM

I have a bad pack my self. It is not limn but lipo. I may take it out in the drive way and see how many volts it will take ot make it blow. Curious to see what happens first.

abiye 12.12.2006 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nbcaznmaster
well, i mean the blowing up as in flames. Nimh vent and crap, but they wont damage the truck. i heard limn only smoke but no actuay fire.

i've seen a nimh reciever pack blow away the radio box in an 1/8 scale bugy... litterlarly blow it out of the car... the poor guy got some shrapnl in his eye and almost lost it...

Cartwheels 12.12.2006 07:22 PM

Nbcaz, you may already know this but an airplane lvc goes to to nuetral when it hits low voltage which is full reverse for us car guys. I have experienced this several times myself and even puffed a pack because of it.

nbcaznmaster 12.12.2006 08:38 PM

Then why mike sell em? I emailed PDF distribution (aka apogee) about over discharge and explotion, and they responded by saying "With all of our testing and repeated abuse, we have yet to be able to get a pack to rupture in any form."

squeeforever 12.12.2006 09:16 PM

Still don't do it...I wouldn't care what they said...What did they say about replacement/warrantee? By the way, the reason it went into full reverse on you is probably because of the Spektrum you use...Others haven't had a problem with the Li-Saver unless they were using Spektrum...

crazyjr 12.12.2006 09:20 PM

Note to self, no failsafes with an lvc and a 2.4g radio

squeeforever 12.12.2006 09:26 PM

Actually, I think its just the Spektrums because the failsafes they have when they lose the radio signal. I think the Spektrums have a longer period to connect than most, so I'm not sure...I don't know if its the same with your Nomadio, but I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that there 2.4g radios, just were you set the failsafes, the radio losing connection, etc....

coolhandcountry 12.12.2006 09:46 PM

You can program the spektrum to go to neutrel for fail safe.

crazyjr 12.12.2006 10:01 PM

Nomadio has a failsafe

Procharged5.0 12.12.2006 10:11 PM

They make the liposack and the lipobunker for a reason.

I've seen enough pictures & videos to know that you discard a puffed pack.

Cutting the leads and soaking the pack in water is supposed to settle the pack and prepare it for disposal. Someone posted the "how to" on this recently.

coolhandcountry 12.13.2006 03:06 PM

You supposed to discharge first. Then You can stab a hole in it and soak it in
salt water. Salt water has lower resistance. I talked to some one at maxamps.
They said to discharge the pack to 0 voltage. Then throw away. I still need to peel some stuff off mine.


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