of losi and asso i'd say without second tought losi, quality is better.
losi!always racing towards the future!

I think Tamiya would be the lord of MTs if it gets serious about it.

there is no MT imo that is good out of the box, they all require hop-ups and mods. and in racing, give a pro any truck out of the box and he'll beat the average joe with a top-level tuned-up truck.

That is because the maxx is old news! Come on how old is it? Give the lst/lst2 some credit they are great trucks. Give it some time and some manufacturer will do the same for the lst as far as a super maxx type of deal. The lst was truck of the year when it was first introduced. It is my opinion that they are the best monster trucks out there but out of the box there is no question that the maxx has seen better days and the revo needs lots of money dumped into it so that it is reliable enough to race. So how can that be the best monster truck? Have you ever added all of the money you have tied up in your revo or asked any racer how much he has in he revo? Most people who have revo's put bigger motors in them, that tells us that they don't have enough power, add cvd's because the driveshafts break all of the time. that tells us they are not durable, they add allumium diff cups for higher stength for their diffs,once again it comes down to a durability issue? You said the best monster truck, to me that sounds like a inferior product not the best. Oh yea by the way the LST has all of those things stock.

It's quite simple;

all the cars have their flaws and serve their own purposes. (one for bashing, one for racing)

While a savage is pretty tough, a revo is topnotch design when it comes to engineering. everything is thought thru. Makes an lst and a savage look like vehicles made by fred flinstone. And i am not saying fred didn't know his share about technique.

The savage with its long shocks, the losi with its fat shocks. the revo with his tupperware®© drivetrain.. (which is pretty tough though)

The revo has got his flaws. 1/10th diffs, popping shock-ends. but so is any other truck

with every truck you drive/use you will tear/use parts. no way around it.

While one prefers losi, another prefers traxxas/hpi or some other brand.

This forum is about sharing knowledge about brushless and setups.
Not about useless debates over different manufacturers.

this is the same useless discussion with nitro vs electric. Do/choose what serves your needs in this hobby..

we are all driving stupid little scale cars..

I guess your username isn't mr.lst for nothing..

Now can we get over it and stop this ueseless debate? (towards everybody that is..)

A question, with no flaming intended; have you had a revo?

I agree with serum. There is no way to objectively measure this, so there is no point. It is all subjective. Therefore, buy all the MT's and you will own the best one.

-Chris

I had both a 2.5 and a 3.3 revo's that is where I base my opinion on from cold hard facts

Well obviously not. No offense, but the Revo only has a few things that need to be upgraded to make VERY reliable. And like it or not, some of them are even the same things that would need to be upgraded on a LST. Why do you say that about the sliders though? I have NEVER had a problem with one. 95% of racers know now to use CVD's on a Revo. Its dead weight. The sliders will withstand a my 2000 watt BL setup, so I highly doubt a nitro engine will do anything to them. Diff cups, so what? Thats $20 to solve a problem, and its not even a problem for ALOT of people. I never had a problem with the diffs...It seems to me that you just never gave the Revo a fair chance. I read your post about how the Revo handles like "mush" but thats not true. I don't know of ANYONE that things the Revo doesn't handle good...

I want you guys to behave now, or i'll lock this thread.

This is not the place to have this useless and endless debates.

Calm down.

It's funny, that all of this debate is going on. I said that I think that the MGT is the best monster truck, and I do own a Losi Muggy. My reasons for making the MGT my pick are completely subjective. I like the truck because it's tough and they use duplicate parts on the front and back making parts replacement and stocking parts easier, should they be needed. The truck is also super easy to work on. Everything is out in the open.

On an overall though, the argument here can pretty much be ended with an anology. I once read in a cigar magazine where the editor was asked what he thought was the best cigar and his answer was, "whatever you are smoking now." I think that this statement pretty much covers it. They are all good, but for different reasons and any particular one will satisfy one person's needs while not doing the same for another. Of course, there is trash out there, but if you stick with the reputable manufacturers; I don't think that any one manufacturer's model is overall or generally "better" than any other. I think that I can safely say that, although I haven't owned every monster truck being made right now, I've probably broken them all. LOL.

I agree with some of that aangel. There is not one thing that makes every one
happy. If that was the case we would have one monster truck.

And having only one would really limit the fun and the options.

THREAD CLOSED!..:)

Well, I've said this before............

LOL! somehow i was thinking about this pic once this started.. you must realize that about 20-25 posts are deleted from this thread already.

I kind of figured that you "cleaned things up"!

:005:

Sorry i'm late to the party :005: but heres my take on this. I have both trucks a REVO & LST2. Both are good but there are differences between them. The REVO is more fine tunable but the LST2 is still very capable. When racing in my opinion the revo suites a driver with more finice, while on the LST2 you dont need as much finice. Both are great trucks i'm just as slow with either of them :005: .

Low self esteem Mike..

Are you using swaybars on your LST? a nice add-on IMO.

Rene what is this self esteem you speak of :005: ?. I use a rear swaybar only on the losi but it depends on the track, sometimes the truck works better with no swaybars. It's more about fun & hanging with friends rather than winning for me.

LOL.. Lack of self esteem would be a better choice of word in your case then..

the tracks the swaybar is unneeded; are they too bumpy?

at least he's honest about his driving skills! How many others are???? :005:

serum
Yes i would'nt say uneeded but just not for my style.

Pro
Not very many :005: .

Other than the Grasshopper and Associated RC10 I had over 20 years ago, the only one I own is my e-maxx (for now). I love it. I tend to beat the ever living snot out of it and found almost every out of the box part not up to par for my needs. So I reached into my pockets and upgraded!!! and the assebly of the upgrades to me is just as much fun as driving it... well almost anyway. I know in the future I want to build a custom maxx crawler, 2.2 clod axle crawler, and build a truggy. I'll probably go with a 8IGHT-T BL rig for that. however that is a few years down the line. The wife said 1 a year... and next year is definatly a BL maxx crawler.

I know the feeling. Once I got started with the E-Maxx I was hooked! Several thousand dollars later (and after having had several suspension systems, motors, etc. ) I'm still hooked on it. My Revo 3.3 is awesome but the tricked out maxx can easily hang with it if not outperform it!

:027:

Procharged.. get some pics of your maxx! :)

Sorry Sylvester....

Still apart! I can't find the time to get it all reassembled! :035:

Too many family and work obligations....they seem to never stop!

I wish I knew someone I could trust to assemble it with the same care i would...I might farm it out....

i could put back together pro.

Thanks for the offer M1. Still planning to find time for it, but the Mustang NEEDS to be prepped for summer first. For my mental well being it needs to be out and tuned for June! I plan on some dyno time to tweak the new fuel system, supercharger, and the upgraded software in the engine control system. Plus the datalogger has been upgraded and a wide-band O2 monitor will be addded shortly.

The Nitto Drag Radials will take a beating this summer! LOL!

haha ok if you change your mind let me know, and we are doing a little work on our mustang but we have been busy with the real horse (devils).

MGT - 1
Hpi - 2
Traxxas -3


That he way i see it , and have a one of each

Traxxas Revo all the way!

Hmmm since an flmrpm supermaxx doesn't count as a traxxas manufactured product for me, my vote goes for losi followed by MGT and TRX. I dun like hpi ;P

I like CEN for 1st.. HPI for 2nd.. and Traxxas for 3rd... Those are my thoughts...

After Market.
 

What really makes any of these vehicles great is the after market products that we purchase from places like RC Monster:angel:. Out of the box they all have much to be desired. Thank God companies like UE, FLM, Hardcore, Integy, Quark, MGM, Maxxamps, Neu, and Novak are out there looking to improve on what the vehicle manufacturers failed to do. Provide us with parts that will hold up to the adult punishment that we force upon our very expensive toys. None of them can do it alone, that is obvious. Nothing in this world is perfect and we are faced with finding the best combination which works for our own individual requirements so that we can try to compete with everyone else. Sorry that you feel that what we do is play with little stupid trucks. This is how genious engineers are born, and how retired engineers keep their skills alive. Sure a lot of us are just out here having fun, but a lot of others are findng out about the engineering gifts that they/we were born with, and just how to use them in a way that satisfies our own curiosity. The thing that I have always been very much impressed with about this sport is that even though there is a huge level of competitiveness between us, we still manage to be here to help out anyone who asks no matter what part of the world we come from. That is totally cool:lol:.

Traxxas all the way!

i've had traxxas for a number of years and thought they were great... that is, until i started putting together my eXT8. one word: WOW.

XRAY all the way!!!!!!

I've only owned Traxxas and Losi, so my vote goes to Losi. With Traxxas I kept breaking parts. Losi Muggy > Revo, it doesn't have the nifty suspension design but it is FAR more durable and still handles offroad very well.

Lol thats funny. My experience is the exact opposite. Every losi I've owned was pathetically weak, and I bash my traxxas cars harder and am yet to break a thing...

That is funny....I broke a skid plate, snapped a chassis, broke a control arm, broke part of the slipper clutch, and stripped a differential all within about 1 hour of run time with my Revo, that's why I sold it.