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VintageMA 09.14.2007 08:26 AM

Thx - This is only the 3rd body I've painted so I am still trying to get the hang of it. I am using spray paint - so my control is pretty bad - would've preferred the fade to be a little closer to the middle. I did a good chuck of browsing through image galleries to pick out the two colors to go with the yellow wheels and wing.

Still getting some serious glitching even with the ferrite ring - breaks jam on mega hard and engine cogs bad while the steering servo maxes out to one direction or the other - a nice flip inducing combo. Can't wait to get my React radio.

squeeforever 09.14.2007 08:13 PM

Why not set the endpoints so they don't max out??

VintageMA 09.14.2007 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 118364)
Why not set the endpoints so they don't max out??

I do have the endpoints set - it's just when the glitch happens that it brakes hard and steers hard - I've read on a few other crt.5 threads that this has happened to other people. I am hoping that it is due to the electronics being cramped so close together and the React will take care of that - should receive it on Monday so we will see.......

BrianG 09.14.2007 10:11 PM

Definitely sounds like the radio since it's affecting the steering too. Is your receiver and antenna close to any high current wires (esp the motor wires)?

VintageMA 09.14.2007 10:20 PM

Yeah if you take a look at the pic on the previous page with the yellow antenna - yeah they are only a few inches apart. Tight chassis.

MetalMan 09.15.2007 12:30 AM

I was just out running my CRT.5 with React, Feigao 8L, Mamba Max, and 2s Lipo geared with a Robinson 14t pinion on the stock steel spur. No problems with glitching :party:. 2.4ghz makes a nice difference from 75mhz.

lincpimp 09.15.2007 12:34 AM

Metal Man, what size tire are you using? With the stockers your crt.5 would be doing 22mph. I am guessing you are using a bigger tire?

MetalMan 09.15.2007 12:45 AM

It's at roughly 22mph with stock tires on 2s Lipo. That's why I bought a 3s Lipo today :). If I wanted to, I could throw an 18t pinion on it and get 40+mph.

lincpimp 09.15.2007 01:04 AM

Yeah, that sounds about right I had mine geared with a 20tooth pinion with the 10l on 3s and it did near 40. I did have jato wheels/tires on it thought. I have since converted to 4s and now use a 14t pinion, so much better that way.

jnev 09.15.2007 01:19 AM

lincpimp - any pictures of the 4s battery installed? If I remember correctly, people were having trouble fitting a 3s battery pack onto the truck. I can't imagine how a 4s pack would fit with so little room...

lincpimp 09.15.2007 01:29 AM

I am using a 4s 4000 maxamps pack. Basically took the emaxx chassis and cut out one battery tray. Made a plate to go across the top off the CD and stood the tray on its side. The stock hold down can be used with 3s but I used longer screws with 4s. Heres a few pics, works fine for me. I have the same setup in a LS10, slightly larger truck, but slightly lighter than the crt.5!? The pics show a 20 tooth pinion, that is what I ran with the 3s setup.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF1219.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF1218.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF1221.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF1216.jpg

jnev 09.15.2007 01:35 AM

Very nice job on it. I really like that top plate. I hope you can make replica's :lol: since I'll want one similar in the future. :smile: Where do you get that antenna mount also? I have seen it before, but couldn't find it. Let me know.

Thanks. :smile:

lincpimp 09.15.2007 01:50 AM

The antenna mt is an integy mount, can't rmember the number but it came from tower hobbies! I am sure that I can replicate the top plate, and thread it to mount the tray. In fact I could do the whole thing with the tray too, if anyone wants one. Pm if interested for a price.

VintageMA 09.15.2007 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 118455)
The antenna mt is an integy mount, can't rmember the number but it came from tower hobbies! I am sure that I can replicate the top plate, and thread it to mount the tray. In fact I could do the whole thing with the tray too, if anyone wants one. Pm if interested for a price.

It's the same mount I am using too - very easy to install and convenient for anywhere on the chassis:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...+antenna+mount

jnev 09.15.2007 12:58 PM

Thanks for the link Vintage. :smile:

BrianG 09.15.2007 01:10 PM

I use that mount on a couple of vehicles and it works surprisingly well. Go figure: something that Integy actually makes well! :smile:

Of course, it would be difficult to poorly make something that simple unless you tried to...

VintageMA 09.17.2007 10:27 PM

4 Attachment(s)
Almost done!

Just got the React in the mail today. This radio is really cool.
Installed the transceiver in the buggy with the temperature sensor.
I've got the basics configured for the system and the difference is amazing.

The steering response with the digital servo is so smooth and instant. The motor response is smoother as well. I'll get the chance to run it outside tomorrow, but just running around the house there is no signs of glitching at all.

VintageMA 09.18.2007 11:23 PM

OMG - I love the React!!!!!:intello:

Took the buggy out to the park after work today. Ran the car pretty hard in grass through 2 of the 3S 5000 mAh packs and a 2S A123 pack.

Goodbye glitching - and goodbye heat. Seems the glitching was causing some pretty high current surges and heating everything up.

Running temp of the motor is now 110-120* and the ESC is warm to the touch. Batteries only just warm as well.

The range on this radio is really awesome, as is the feel driving with it. I am absolutely loving the telemetry - the heat sensor is just awesome. Hooked up the voltage sensor as well when i got home. I love the ability to change the alerting settings on the fly right from the menus.

I think I can consider this build complete. :party::party::party:

Thomas P 09.26.2007 12:27 PM

I just ordred the Motormount, and some Mod1 pinions 12-13T..

Motor will be a Sintred 7.5r from Novak(will race this one indoor) ESC a GTB.

Now the LHS have some Serious outsale on Lipos here in Swe, so i was planning on 3600mah Lipo (2s) 20-30C do we think they can handle this?

info

3600 mAh - 20-30C - 2 celler - 7,4V
3600 mAh - 20-30C - 2 celler - 7,4V

7,4V

3600mAh

72-108A (20-30C)

2s2p

75x34x43 mm

190g

Kontakt: nej

Balanskontakt: ja - Typ APACHE/Polyquest

VintageMA 09.26.2007 02:24 PM

The Novak 7.5r is a small can motor rated at 340 watts output for 6 minutes. Because you are using a lower gearing I want to say that you might be okay, but I would have to digress to someone who has used this motor a bit more.

I think the lipos will be fine in this application, but I am concerned about the level of current draw for such a small motor with that high a kv rating. You will have to monitor the motor temp very closely for your first few runs to make sure it doesn't get too hot.

Personally I would prefer a lower kv motor on 3S lipo in a larger can size. If I were to go for a Novak for the CRT application (it's a much heavier 1/12 scale than most 1/10 scale on-roads) I would go in the direction of one of the HV motors myself - I like the torque that a larger motor can produce to get the car moving.

Thomas P 09.26.2007 03:38 PM

Hmmm...that dont sounds soo good :/... how about the GTB ESC then? can that one handle the HV?, or do i need a new ESC?

Maybe il get a MM system? a 4600?

i will use this truck for indoor racing, no rocket is needed...

Thomas P 09.26.2007 03:54 PM

maybe this one? the HV 4.5r with a controller? or do i only need the motor, can the GTB handle ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Novak-HV-High-Vo...ayphotohosting

aidE 09.28.2007 11:14 AM

Vintage: Then you would prefer the MM 4600 over the 5700? ( I can't make up my mind of which one to buy for my crt .5 conversion.)

BrianG 09.28.2007 12:34 PM

I wouldn't use either of those motors. I tried them both and the motor/ESC gets a little too warm for my taste. An 8L 0r 9L motor on 3s would be better IMO. Or even an S motor. The outside dimensions of the MM motors are very close to an S motor, but the S motors have more of the can filled with coil wire so they are stronger. So really, the MM motors are kinda like a sub-S size IMO.


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