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lincpimp 10.23.2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 124553)
Don't worry, we'll be nice and sell you one of them.... at a 100% markup of course. :whistle::na:

Let me know when it is ok to do that. I have a nib ls10 on my shelf at the moment. I bought it to replace my converted ls10 that i bought used. However the old one is stil going strong so I may not need the new one!

Great truck, superior IMO to the crt.5, maybe not on the track, but it is larger and has more ground clearance. You can actually play in grass and very rough surface, which the crt.5 did not like!

tashpop 10.23.2007 01:21 PM

i actually have the funds to get one, but i told myself i would sell my other cars before i bought another. i'm finding it hard to hold back since i know what i want now and i'm a pretty impulsive person by nature.

tashpop 10.23.2007 01:58 PM

what about parts for these? i'm not finding alot and do they share alot with the hpi mt's?

crap, you see, i just ordered it. you guys pressure me too badly.

skellyo 10.23.2007 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tashpop (Post 124637)
what about parts for these? i'm not finding alot and do they share alot with the hpi mt's?

crap, you see, i just ordered it. you guys pressure me too badly.

Parts:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.php/cPath/1_25_236

BrianG 10.23.2007 02:53 PM

Parts availability is one of the main reasons why I like Traxxas; most LHS carry just about everything in stock without waiting for shipping. Just about every other brand requires that dang waiting period. When I break a part, I want a replacement now! :smile: I usually end up getting an assortment of parts that I think will break, but I'm usually missing that one little part to complete the repair. :grrr:

lincpimp 10.23.2007 03:29 PM

I agree with you Brian, nothing more annoying than waiting on parts!

I purchased a few spur gears and a set of arms for my LS10. I can safely say that the spur gear will never wear out. It is more than 1/4" wide and is mod 1. I have about 5 hours on it, and I bought the truck used. It has not worn at all. The arms are also very sturdy too. I have replaced the front dogbones with hpi mt2 cvds. And the rear dogbones will pop out from time to time, some shock limiters seem to cure this. Other than that nothing else has broken, so it seems to be a good truck.

tashpop 10.23.2007 07:30 PM

so are you confirming that this truck is simular and will share some parts with the hpi mt/mt2/mtss/mtss+?

lincpimp 10.24.2007 12:43 AM

I would not say that it is similar. The mt2 is not anywhere as strong as the ls10. The cvds fit fine though.

tashpop 10.24.2007 05:43 PM

ls10 being stronger sure sounds attractive, i can't wait till fedex shows up.

rootar 10.25.2007 09:15 PM

I got the 9L motor in today, looks brand new, thanks Lincpimp. Im gonna try and start on my motor mount tomorrow but im pretty swamped since i just got a new job at a machine shop. Hopefully ill have it all together by the end of next week and ill order my charger and have it here by the next weekend.

tashpop 10.26.2007 09:19 AM

hey, for motor mounts, i noticed offshore has a few generic mounts. would that be an easy option or do you guy recomend something custome/one off?

lincpimp 10.26.2007 10:11 AM

The OSE motor mounts are to thin IMO to be used in a rc vehicle, they will most likely bend, with a heavy motor and alot of jumping.

rootar 10.26.2007 11:23 AM

im using .160 7075 T6 for mine. im gonna go through a few drill bits but itll be ok. It should be just like yours lincpimp except ill have a bolt on "L" to attach it to the chassis plate also instead of just the center bulkhead.

lincpimp 10.26.2007 12:59 PM

The angle should work well and it wil draw some heat out of the motor too, bonus!

tashpop 10.26.2007 05:26 PM

i found some aluminum online and in the angled stock i can go anywhere from 1/8th to 1/2" in thickness. i'm thinking the 3/16" would do fine to make something. also its 6061 t-6, so not as strong. the 3/16 is good for making an L_____ shape, but i'm also thinking if i get something like the 3/8-1/2", i could just stand it on its side and tap/thread right into it. any opinions?

rootar 10.26.2007 10:13 PM

1/8 inch thick should be plenty thick for you tashpop. the .160 7075 T6 that im gonna use is completely overkill and when i get some pics up of me bashing mine yall will see why. my truck will be tortured, i have a motocross track and full size FMX ramp at my house (its what i started doing two years ago when i got out of RC) and im sure itll see plenty of time well over 20 feet in the air and gaps as big as 45-50 feet on my smaller doubles.

tashpop 10.27.2007 09:38 AM

i think i need to see more custome motor mounts. i'm having a hard time deciding best/easiest way to do it. i noticed tower also has some ammo mounts for their motors that support the front and rear of the motor with adjustible lengths

tashpop 10.29.2007 01:57 PM

sorry, i don't mean to keep trying to take over this thread, but it seems to fit.

do you guys think the motor mount will work? this shop is a couple of miles from my house.

http://www.newcreations-rc.com/Produ...umber=HLAN2097

rootar 10.29.2007 11:40 PM

i dunno if that would work or not. i have my truck here now. Im very impressed wait till you get yours tashpop your gonna love it, very well built. Im pulling the gas motor out tomorrow and will try and mock up a motor plate and show you, i could even make a second one if you want (pm me about it later this week).

jhautz 10.29.2007 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tashpop (Post 125866)
sorry, i don't mean to keep trying to take over this thread, but it seems to fit.

do you guys think the motor mount will work? this shop is a couple of miles from my house.

http://www.newcreations-rc.com/Produ...umber=HLAN2097


Doesnt look like it has any adjustment for gear mesh. Probably not ideal.

tashpop 10.30.2007 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rootar (Post 126000)
i dunno if that would work or not. i have my truck here now. Im very impressed wait till you get yours tashpop your gonna love it, very well built. Im pulling the gas motor out tomorrow and will try and mock up a motor plate and show you, i could even make a second one if you want (pm me about it later this week).

actually, i've had my truck since friday. everything nitro has been pulled and is on ebay.:party:

rootar 10.30.2007 01:05 PM

mine arrived on friday too but it got shipped to my dads business and he was gone this weekend so i couldnt get it till last night when his secretary got home and got her keys to get in.

tashpop 10.31.2007 03:03 PM

please show some pics of your mount when you get it done. i'm going for a different layout than the others i've seen. i want to put the motor where the nitro one was and use saddle packs for batteries. one where the gas tank was and one where the radio box is. i measured and it looks perfect for 2 4s1p of a123's.

rootar 10.31.2007 10:24 PM

my layout is going to be just like lincpimp's. I didnt quite finish the motor mount today at lunch break gonna try and finish it tomorrow heat treat it to T6 on monday. i changed materials today when i started im using .100 7075-o which is untreated and will allow a sharp bend and then can be heat treated to T6. Which is gonna be very very strong, it will attach to 4 points on the bulk head and two places on the chassis (again overkill to have 6 mounting bolts). I do have my drawings i did for it today ill get those scanned and on here for you to see along with some pictures. Wish i had a spare couple hours at work one day to cnc a few of these, our machines programing are setup like autocad so its easy to program if you know autocad fairly well. My battery and RCmonster heatsink/clamp should be here this week also.

rootar 10.31.2007 10:41 PM

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sorry the motormount sketch didnt show up very good, i inverted the colors so you can see it better and two of the mounting holes arent shown either.

tashpop 11.01.2007 08:10 AM

looks good. i started something just to get me going, but i'm sure its not as strong, or as good looking. i'll post pics when i get it on there if it works out. i have to use hand tools so its more crude. how hard do you think it would be to reverse your mount for the other side? maybe just make the L face the other way and its done? i can't remember if the center diff supports are simmetrical.

rootar 11.01.2007 01:12 PM

they are simmetrical but the lower mount holes in the L portion i think would have to be longer to make it back to the nitro motor mounts, i could make one like that, or just draw it up for you if you wanted. i gotta get off here and go finsih mine before my lunch break is over.

tashpop 11.01.2007 03:48 PM

also, one more thing. i could probably find this in the owners manual, but are the diffs sealed so we could use diff fluid?

Sower 11.01.2007 07:07 PM

I'm just catching the tail end of this thread, so forgive me if I am hitting on something you've already dealt with. But I would offer one suggestion that in my opinion is huge - change out the stock tires to Proline Snake Eyes. The handling of my LS10 was horrible with the stock rubber and improved tremendously with the Prolines. Also, you can add two more shocks like the Lightning GT10 has if you're not happy with the suspension. Hope that helps.

tashpop 11.01.2007 08:05 PM

yeah, i've already heard about the tires. that'll come after i get it going though. the shocks, i may look into, depending on how much my batteries weigh the thing down, but im really a fan of one shock per arm so i would probably just upgrade the ones i have instead of adding more.

rootar 11.01.2007 10:42 PM

yea im gonna have to find some stiffer springs these are gonna be a little too soft for anything but rough track with no big jumps, i dont remember if the manual had different spings in it or not. I might could just change the shock oil and get by on that. Yes the diffs are sealed, so you can had fluid and ditch the stock grease thats in there. Thanks for bringing up the tires, doesnt this thing accept associated T4 rear wheels ???? i need to order some so i can mount the moabs i have and run them.

rootar 11.01.2007 11:47 PM

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My motor mount in chassis, i still have to cut the motor slots and drill two more mount holes, then heat treat it on monday.

tashpop 11.02.2007 07:42 AM

it never crossed my mind to use the break hardware/spot as a mounting location. its looking good. i'll have mine mounted today. wife wouldn't let me finish it last night after work. everything is done, but i need to open the hole a little where the motor shaft goes through. last test fit, my pinion set screw was contacting the spur a little and i couldn't set it back further because the mount hole wasn't big enough for it to pass through.

mamba esc's have 3.5mm plugs right? my feigao didn't come with any plugs so i have to hit the lhs on the way home tonight.

jhautz 11.02.2007 08:06 AM

MM comes with 4mm plugs

Sower 11.02.2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rootar (Post 126597)
yea im gonna have to find some stiffer springs these are gonna be a little too soft for anything but rough track with no big jumps, i dont remember if the manual had different spings in it or not. I might could just change the shock oil and get by on that. Yes the diffs are sealed, so you can had fluid and ditch the stock grease thats in there. Thanks for bringing up the tires, doesnt this thing accept associated T4 rear wheels ???? i need to order some so i can mount the moabs i have and run them.

For the tires, I just ordered the HB rims and put on the Snake Eyes. I looked at some Losi rims and they fit, but don't have as much clearance as the HB's so I didn't risk it. As for Springs, I ended up using some threaded shocks and springs from a Duratrax buggy - just the rear ones. I think you can use the Losi ones too. Here's some pics of mine when I had it:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...lecOverall.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...13/Overall.jpg

rootar 11.02.2007 05:20 PM

yes ive seen that truck when i searched for other threads about an ls10, i like the green look, all my trucks have blue and white bodies. i notice everyone's spektrum reciver's antenna being fairly long, mine is only 3.5 inches it came like this and works just like my dx2 i used to have, it had a longer antenna.

im waiting on my battery, charger, balancer, Mamba Max, CC ubec, and pinions to get here. after they arrive my truck should be running the next day.

tashpop 11.02.2007 05:44 PM

my wife said my mamba max just arrived, but i forgot to order a ubec. i guess i'll start stealing parts off the emaxx to get mine going since i'm waiting on my hot body diff upgrade. i wanted to redo my batterys anyways so i'll steal my cc ubec and batts/wires to get it rolling.

rootar 11.02.2007 08:13 PM

come on now man you gotta put some pictures up, its a must...we gotta see your setup and layout to.

tashpop 11.02.2007 10:07 PM

i promise a pic in the morning. i didn't get the esc, it was my hb diffs for the emaxx. that means i won't get to drive the lightning this weekend. my emaxx on the other hand is about to be completely bullet proof except maybe a single speed trans mod maybe.

tashpop 11.03.2007 08:52 PM

sorry i had to wait so late to get pics up. seemed like everyone in my family needed something today which took all my time. any way, heres where i stand now. mamba did come in today so i found its new home. it'll rest on the plate above the steering servo. you can see in this pic my layout. i'll also use a pair of 4s1p for juice. one on each side of the car.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...tning10001.jpg

here is a pic of my throw together motor mount. it seems plenty strong so it might just hold up. also you'll notice due to my lack of hardware and taps, i used the nitro motor mounts to hold my new mount inplace.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...tning10003.jpg

i'm really happy i came across this idea. i noticed with most setups everyone cut the servo mount plate, but i'll be using mine. i was able to use the on/off switch hole for the mamba's power switch, it gives me a spot to mount my rx, and the best part is i took the gas tank mount and used it as a support on the end. i simply flipped it over and there was a perfect hole there for my antenna mount.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...tning10005.jpg

this is all just rough fitted for now. i have some clean up work left while i'm waiting on my batteries and bec. i still have to remove my breaks also. but this is where i'm at for now.


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