It's just that I think using fans is compensation for bad gearing. I generally like to add larger heatsinks and position them so they take advantage of airflow when possible. Look at the BL Conversions link in my sig; all my Quarks have added heatsinks and run very well. The two MM ESCs I have are in smaller vehicles so they're fine as-is.

Adding from two to four caps does help with heat issues, but you don't see as noticeable gains going more than that. Put them in parallel on the power leads as close to the ESC as possible. Generally, 330uF caps are the normal size to choose and find ones with a voltage at least 25% higher than the max battery voltage you plan to use. So, for a 4s setup (16.8v max @ 4.2v/cell), I use 25v caps. Using higher voltage ones is fine but they get physically bigger so placement becomes an issue.

I had one nitro revo for about 6 months before I got tired of nitro mess, noise, engine break-in proc, after run proc, tuning hassles, etc. I've always been an electronics type of guy so the progression was natural in my case.

HAHA, I once accidentally hit a homeless guy with a half full dr pepper. Talk about aim, directly over my truck while moving. I was trying to make it into a dumpster, but hit the guy digging in it instead, I yelled I'm sorry, but I do not think that came out well over the laughing. I would never hit a dog though, that is just cruel.

BrianG likes fans as much as I like MLST trucks!

So what are the final specs?

6s-18 cells
PC Programing
Does it come with a motor?
And is there an estimate of the price?

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Good point, I like the way you think. This would be me and this would be the misses .

PS: If you see a homeless guy with a little black dog don't throw bottles.

Hey there Mt are you working:whistle:? If so why don't you put your foot down about how you spend your hard earned money:na:? Show her who wears the pants in your family.....:whip: Life is too short to be pushed around by the woman in your life. Sometimes you just have to go for it and do it your way. You could live your last day at any time you know?:lol:

Are we there yet?...Are we there yet?
This all seems like an endless roadtrip.:lol:
Just when you think you're getting closer to the trees on the horizon by driving over the hill, there's another looong stretch of highway you have to sit through!:rofl:
If you think about it, both situations are like illusions.
Anyway, I'm not in a hurry since practically all of my time goes into studying to become an electrical engineer.
My trucks are getting neglected ever since the semester started.:oops:
I know I won't be among the first to get one so I'll just let you guys have all the fun.:lol:

The motor isn't going to be a Neu, but the motor design is licensed from Neu. The motor is gonna be a doozy, from what I hear.

Final specs as I know:

6S LiPo
200A continuous
Built-in CCBEC
Has a fan
Comes with motor, but will be available as ESC only

Sleeb

has anyone noticed that joe hasn't popped his head in for comment lately? probably doesn't want it chewed off by the angry wolves... :lol:

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I do not know if anyone has caught this or not, but if you go visit the Mega motors website and look at model # (ACn Car8) which is the square blue finned motor. In the specs section they have suggested setups from testing criteria with 21volts & 22volts for the MMM at 40amps geared with a 14t pinion, at 29,000RPM's.:intello: So they must know something that we do not.:eyes:

According to Mega, you can run a MM on 6s, but there are no confirmed setups that survived. They have a vid of an XB8 supposedly on 6s, and they told me the 8ight made for robinson racing and profiled by RC Driver was a 6s powered MM. I'm not sure how they did it without modding like those here that tryed it, but if they did it with a stock MM, I htink the mmm might be a real hoss and can be possibly overdriven by at least 2s lipo

I thought it turned out that those dual 3s packs were running in parallel instead of series? Even with the older version, I only know of people running 5s, and don't remember anyone running 6s...

I thought the caps and fets on the MM were 25v components. If you run them on a fully charged 6s pack that would be 25.2v

Thats a littel close for comfort on the MM. The MMM will likely be 35v or 50v components. if they are going to spec it at 6s. They gotta have room for any voltage spikes when braking on a near full battery.

so is it really coming out now?
phil

Ummm...DEAD WRONG. We beta tested all of those products and have testers for the MMM as well.

Here I am. :lol:

And for those that are looking for specs, here ya go. The MMM should be available in March. We're waiting on the things that are out of our hands right now. Boards, cases, boxes, manuals, etc. It'll be able to handle up to 6s lipo and 200A continuous. It'll also have our Castle BEC switching regulator integrated into the controller so you'll be able to dial your output voltage to your servo(s) to anything you want between 4.8v and 9v in 0.1v increments. The motors we've licensed from Steve Neu (arguably the best motors in the world). Total cost of the combo should be around $300. If any of you want to be notified when it's released shoot me an email at support@castlecreations.com and I'll add you to the list. When it's released you'll get an email from yours truly. :)

<-- Outta here. I don't like angry wolves anywhere near me!

Right on Joe!!! Dude, welcome back - hey, let me get this started by asking for a quick clarification from you - what are the specs going to be?

Hey Joe. Glad you chimed in. Is this new March date for real?

What will the KV rating be on the packaged motor Joe?

and which one first? or will all be available at the same time?

I think they'll be offering three motor choices - 1500 2000 and 2200. Is that right Joe?

thats awesome! My bday is march! looks like it will be a timely upgrade from my cheapo esc/motor combo :D

March what? Just curious cause mine's the 25th...

5/3/85 right here or as you might prefer to see it.... 3/5/85 :P

Hello? Joe? Dude, please don't tell me you left already. C'mon - give us the low down on the KV of the motor(s) that will come out.

Great to see you here Joe. That is what I want to know too. If it is just going to be the higher kv motor i'll probably grab another motor until the lower kv combos are released.

Look above for ESC specs. Motor specs have not been finalized but rough kv's are 2200, 1750, and 1550. We're not saying exactly which date guys...we can't see the future. :wink:

Nope, was just on the phone picking up a new sponsored driver.

This sounds incredible, and it's good to have you back here on the forums Joe. :-)

So the MMM is officially going to be 200A continuous? I was sure that it was posted before that it would be 175A cont., and 200A burst...but hey, the bigger the better!

The woman isn't really that bad. I just use her as my excuse. I do work and I am paid well (maybe not that well) but being young and having lots of bills and rent and saving for a house at the same time doesn't leave a lot of spending money for me, especially after the repair bills :whistle:.

And I know what you mean about any day could be your last. I ride to work down the road and every day I get on the bike I pray the tools who think it's clever to drive down the cycle lane to give the cyclist a fright don't actually hit me. Or the people who pull out in front of me cause they don't realise I'm doing 50kmh (down hill with tail wind :lol:).

I too only know of 5s being used in a MM, but here are mine and mega's emails about the subject.

Here's mine ;
here is Mega's reply;

Yeah, I saw that after I put my question up. You must have gone back and edited your post while I was typing. Sneaky. :lol:

Anyway, thanks for giving us an idea on the KV's of the motors. This is excellent news. And it's so nice to see you'll be giving us a nice ESC that will handle 6s. I'm not as concerned about high amps as I am high voltage so I'm stoked. Especially since I already bought a 6s battery betting on you guys coming out with the MMM in the spring! :whistle:

Thanks for the update here Joe - you can get back to your phone calls! :lol:

Thanks for the updates Joe. It is nice to hear that it will be a 6s esc. Cant wait!

On a side note I just received my Sidewinder. Very nice looking esc, well put together. Case design is nice and construction/appearance looks to be even better tha the MM. I will try it out with a novak motor in my xxx-cr and see how it does.

yes - thanks for the update, joe - and welcome back! sheesh, what will you do with your time once the MMM is out and no once can complain about the next project due date??

the wolves must be busy elsewhere. i'm more the red riding hood type... 'my, what a big brushless motor you have grandma!'

Nice Clodmaxx :) just made my evening (big smile, kids are asking what is so funny, don't think they will get it :)

Is there a possibilty that we can exceed 6s to 7-8s without making the controller go smoky?

I some how don't think you will get a yes answer to that. It will be a smoke it at your own risk like everything else.

Joe will the Neu motor have the 5mm shaft? will the motor be the same length,diameter,Finned case what are the similaritiesThanks for the mm software upgrade it has eliminated the cogging in my Neu 1515/1.5d/f in my Brushless Losi 8ight T.:diablo::diablo::na:

well the MM was only rated to 3s and people put 4-5 and even 6s through it. So basically, going by that it means that the MMM, rated to 6s, shoud take 8, 10 or even 12s :lol: doubt it, thought I'd expect you could put a couple extra cells worth of V through it...

So is this "neu" motor going to be a 2 or 4 pole motor?

I'm sure you will be able to go higher V but the head room will get smaller and the margin for error less and the chances of letting out the smoke far greater. CC won't endorse Higher V.