I think CC better turn the MMM from "vapor ware" into reality soon. Right now they could OWN the BL MT market. If they wait too long they could miss this incredible opportunity.

I agree - This is huge for TRX but they are not the first out there as Losi has already done it with the XXX-T.

What makes it huge for TRX is their visibilty and overall dominance in the entry level market. They take a platform that their manufacturing already supports and put a brushless system- hype...errr market the heck out of it. Make it stupid fast and sell more parts... GENIUS!

I think Castle can only benefit from Traxxas' entry into the BL market. It will introduce more people to the brushles arena. And like everyone here, they will get addicted and crave a more functional and powerful system.:004:

Everyone keeps bringing up Losi but come on, they put an old overstocked Novak system in that they probably bought at deep discount because Novak couldn't sell them what with the new releases. Then it's barely faster than the Brushed version and had no other real changes to the vehicle.

Traxxas put a real high performance BL system in , beefed up many areas of the vehicle, and improved a few other things. I think there is a clear difference here. Not too mention is Traxxas was smart and actually used a sensoreless system but still left the option there for someone who still wants sensored.

I guess this means that now that Traxxas has done this that ROAR will have a little more pressure to allow sensorless in.

TEX,

I agree the Traxxas offering is Much More Impressive.

The one thing you are missing, is the fact the Velineon is made for the Rusty, Stampede, Jato type cars. I don't believe after reading everything that it will push the Maxx or Revo's. I noticed there chart went to 3s lipo. So this is basically another system like the MM, which can be run on 4s and even 5s. I bet that if you hook the Velineon on to 4s, it would melt that esc. This is my opinion though after a quick glance, unless there are versions for the maxx and revo's/heavier trucks. So technically, Traxxas is still behind with CC unless it is reated higher for MT's.

Newe,

I'll put money on the fact that Traxxas is developing an ESC/Motor combo for a new release of the E-maxx & E-Revo. I'd also bet that it will handle 6s.

New, I think you are missing what I am saying here.

First, I love my MM setup and wouldn't trade it for anything. I also know that the Velineon is not designed for a monster truck like the Revo or E-maxx.

My point is that Traxxas is obviously thinking ahead which means they probably have or are working on a BL setup for the Revo and E-Maxx which should put some pressure on CC.

I have no intention of putting a theoretical monster trcuk setup in my Revo from traxxas if it doesn't have the options the MM has and the MMM will have.

I think this should be a signal to everyone including CC that Traxxas is serious about the brushless market.

They didn't go for a lame off the shelf system, they designed (or had designed) their own high performance system.

I also have no doubt that the Velineon is not meant for 4s or above because it is stated that way by Traxxas and obvious by other information they give you.

Exactly what I am saying man.

No worries, we on the same page now! LOL, and I agree with the Losi statement as well. It just seemed as though that this was being compared to the MMM, or and esc of 6s. Which I think Traxxas will be farther away from developing than CC or Tekin or even Quark.

How much! You have other companies that are in the process and have been for awhile. Look at all they have upgraded so far, nothing is what it seems. If they are, it will not be anytime soon. Take CC for example and how long it has taken them to get this system out and perfected. Unless they have been sitting on this for sometime (which I doubt due to all the Nitro heads) and it seems that was their focus for some time now, Revo for example.

I still think it'll be some time before Traxxas will come out with a 6s system is my whole point Pro, although, there is always speculation and no one really knows. It is almost pointless to debate as Serum would say.

I would have agreed with this almost 100% before yesterday, but the fact that Traxxas developed their own high powered BL system unoticed then unleashed it in a big bang really shocked me (and most others I would assume).

I guess now it just has me second guessing some of my preconceived notions about them. Which is good on their part.

Only time will tell but no matter what this is an exciting time for electric RC and it just keeps getting better.

Castle needs to get on the stick, or they will be rolled over like traxxas. Traxxas had a year to produce the E revo, before gorilla and Kershaw started to offer theirs. Take into account all the homemade examples out their today they would have had top share of the market, but they will be lucky to get half of what they would have if they did it right.

Castle or Tekin needs to move fast because they don't got much time before traxxas becomes a player in the BL MT market. I know traxxas hasn't offered much in the way of options, but they do offer a true nearly brainless setup for the newb's and the disenchanted nitro users around the world. Some will look to traxxas as a step, but a lot might stick with them if they get there first

Yup! I agree. I did a quickie web search right after I saw it and came up with exactly ZERO hits on any of the names. They kept the lid on it very well. The performance looks to be quite good, and they picked the right KV motor for the job. A lot more people are going to start running brushless now as a direct result of this. I gotta hand it to Traxxas, they do great marketing.

Sleeb

I am kind of anixous to test one of these systems to cc and others.

i am welling to place money on the fact that traxxas has a e-revo in the beta stage. even 2 motor options, brushed or brushless. i just hope they dont crapout with a cheap plastic chassis.