I was looking at zippies awile ago and they seemed like a good deal until I seen the pricing on Neu packs! The neus where about the same price after shipping and I got some of the best cells available and I supported a USA based company. Although they weren't from Mike he does carry some neu packs as well and I have made other purchases from him to support him

please show me the Neu packs that can compare pricewise to TWO ZIPPY-H 4000mAh 5S1P 25-35C for $212 shipped

I have 4 zippy K packs, 2 4300mAh 2S and 2 4300mAh 3S. One of each has failed on me. The 3S that failed had 1 maybe 2 cells puff while the pack was just sitting on my dinning room table this summer. I was monitoring the voltage on a regular bassis and one day when I went to check the pack was puffed.

The 2S that failed had a dead cell from the get go. It never took a good charge on my ballance charger. Returning isn't an option becasue the shipping would be more than I have in the packs.

The other two that are still good work great. I use them in a variety of cars, rustler 2S, and 3S, the converted revo has been run on 3S (becasue I forgot my series connector), but usually 5S (2S + 3S). The packs don't get more than 105f in the heat of the summer.

I must be a glutton for punishment though becasue I have a 3S 4000mAh and 6S 4000mAh on the way that are to be run in series (when I get lutach's 10S esc), and 2 of the 4000mAh (suposed to be 25C)hard case 2S packs that they just released also on the way.

All that said though I do plan on buying two of Mikes 5S2P 5000mAh packs for my Muggy when he gets them back in stock. Sorry for the long winded reply.

-Brian

thanks for the reply, it backs up what I'm saying, people are buying zippys. surely a zippy witn an RCM sticker on it is worth more than one from hong kong:yes:

You can get two 5s1p 4300 mah 25/50c neu energy packs for 125 each. That is .029 cents per mah.

http://www.neumotors.com/2008/store/page6/page6.html

The zippy's you posted are .027 cents per mah and have a lower peak c rating.

The neu are enerland cells and of the highest quality. I think for 35 dollar increase over the zippy with more mah to boot I would go neu.

I paid 95.50 for a 3s 4900mah and 65.00 for a 2s 4900mah neuenergy xp packs $7 for shipping

I paid $128 for a pair of 3s5k 20-30c packs shipped. Neu packs aren't that cheap.

I agree, MaxCramps are garbage. I personally never had the Zippy cells more than .03 out from each other, and that is with a pair of 3s packs in parallel, but I can see where you might need to watch them. I never inspected them. In fact, I left them strapped into my truck even during charging. All experiences will vary, surely, but there are far more great reviews on these packs than harsh ones. If Mike gets his new packs in different sizes, I may take a look at them.

If I may offer a single example/thought about the cost of buying & importing direct from the source, versus buying them from a 3rd party (be it Mike or someone else), then, try this on for size:

ZIPPY 'RHINO' 4900 4S (14.8v) 20C/30C (98A/147A) Lithium Battery £74.99 ($116.76) in the Uk plus shipping.

Rhino 4900mAh 4S 14.8v 20C Lipoly Pack $79.99 direct from Hobbycity plus shipping.

Exact same lipo, yet it costs nearly 50% more for the privilage of buying it from a UK retailer.

Now granted, there are factors such as shipping method, exchange rates and profit margins to concider, but I kinda doubt people would be willing to pay that much extra just to support Mike, when he already sell plenty of lipos that perfom just as well or indeed much better, for a similar kind of price once you factor in shipping costs to get the Zippies direct, let alone after he's had to add on his own costs and profit margins; you might as well buy what he already has if you just want good quality, fair priced batts.

I love my zippies too, but I wouldnt pay over the odds by that amount just to support BRCHobbies for example, I'd rather import the batts and still save money, or look for a different brand already based in the UK (Flightpower/Trakpower for example).

{/economics lesson}

hmmmm........I stand corrected......those neu 5s are worth the extra bucks for sure
although I like the performance and price of the zippy h and r batts the enerland cells do out perform them emencely

Nice to see those prices. :) The Neus have come down quite a bit. I originally bought a 4S 30C 2500 pack for ~$110 or something last year. I see its $75-80 now. The 25Cs are quite reasonably priced too. The 30Cs are still $$$ for the larger mah tho. I can't spend $200+ on a battery that I could easily ruin thru bad luck or momentary stupidity. A dead $80 batt I can live with, but that's just me.

FWIW tho, I got a zippy-h for my .5. a 25C 4S 2100 pack was $40 and I do like it quite a bit more than the 30C Neu. The small mah zips seem to be much more reliable than the large mah stuff. The 2100 packs rarely needs balancing, but the 4000mah always do. I won't charge them w/o a smart balancer. I'm not sure I've ever had to balance the Neu packs.

i wont lie, i bought my friend a 4900 3s lipo for about 100 shipped.

....thats about the price i paid for my maxamps 2s...that btw SUCK. Cant get any punch outa em and run times have seemed to have fallen dramatically...went form about 20-25 mins to 10:no:

Neu have definitely come down in price, as lipo in general as a whole. I still don't understand why FP and TP packs have not followed, as they use the same enerland cells.

I like my FP packs for sure, but any further purchases will be neu.

I've seen prices on the PolyRC packs come down in price as well. A 25C, 4S, 4350mAh pack is ~$138 shipped these days. That's not far off from the Neu prices, and the PolyRC is readily available. If the Neu's sell out at the prices they're currently at, they will not backorder packs for you at those prices. I'm guessing they're replacing their entire line with their "5C charge" packs.

Enerland may be clearing out old cells, or realizing that they have stiff competition from a few of the China battery manufacturers. I just bought 8x 3s 25c 2200 poly rc packs to use on my Ebike. Gonna run a total of 12s2p, and will give a lot better performance than the 12s2p a123 M1 cells I am currently running. Size and weight will be reduced quite a bit too.

hey those nue packs look nice! what taps do those use? i have a blinky can i use that? and i think im going to get a zippy 5s and a Nue 5s and test them out! plus nue is in california isnt it? that means fast shipping for me!