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brushlessboy16 09.02.2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 317815)
Buggy on 4s = ~250mah/min @ track

My Revo on 6s/4200 pack = ~160mah/min @ track

Mind you that is two different owners here.... the buggy number is from a guy at the track, he's fast around the track, and still uses a 'nitro finger' for throttle, so that number should go down as he adjusts.

sweet.

My 8ight comes up at 8lbs flat in race trim with a 1515, 4s 5000mah pack, bow ties and a personal transponder.

anyone else know there specs?

Ryu James 09.02.2009 06:44 PM

thats cool. my 8ight 2.0 comes in at EXACTLY 8lbs also. that is with bow ties, 5s 3850mah, hacker c50 7xl in a tekno 44mm mount, my homemade 3mm carbon chassis, and pers. transponder too.

zeropointbug 09.02.2009 07:00 PM

What's your mah/min range there James?

BP-Revo 09.02.2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starscream (Post 317001)
The ability to "blow him out of the water down the straight" is based on the difference between the electric setup and the nitro setup as well as the length of the straight. Nitro's gain their power at higher RPM so although you will have an advantage at the start of the straight, the nitro engine may actually surpass you if the straight is long enough. Electric cars definetly have an advantage on a smaller track.

Against this specific guy I was still faster. I pulled hard out of the corner and when he hit his powerband I stopped pulling (but he didn't catch up) and as speeds increased I started to pull away again.

starscream 09.02.2009 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BP-Revo (Post 317900)
Against this specific guy I was still faster. I pulled hard out of the corner and when he hit his powerband I stopped pulling (but he didn't catch up) and as speeds increased I started to pull away again.

I guess its possible that particular guy's nitro engine is not running optimally or that particular engine doesn't produce the same hp that your BL system can. This is why I don't like nitro's, they require alot of work to keep them at peak performance.

Power to the ground is advantageous but its more about what you can do with all that power.

zeropointbug 09.02.2009 11:22 PM

It is how you use that power. Also, most nitro engines have almost twice the HP rating that our track BL counterparts have, and yet they are still slower! Don't you love electric torque bands?! :mdr:

Ryu James 09.02.2009 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 317881)
What's your mah/min range there James?

i have no idea. how would i figure this out? i have the hyperion charger and i have been told that i can look at how much mah i have used after a race but not sure how to do this. if i knew how to view the used mah after a 10min main then its just simple math to know the mah/min.

brushlessboy16 09.02.2009 11:37 PM

My pack (4s 500mah) took a little over 2500mah after an 11 minute run. seems about right.

ryan, did you get my last email?

aqwut 09.02.2009 11:40 PM

I agree with the skills.. I'm still lacking in that department.. and for almost a decade already.. haha

ZeroPointBug... You wonder if you are that great of a driver?.. LOL Truth is, the guys you race with just sucks... hahaah J/K

When I race at my track, I have to set it all the way down to 40MP to run.. even that is almost too fast... but the brushless really have an advantage on the oval track.. offroad, not so much.. but that's from our local track.... But it does make a difference.. Tires, Servo and Weight....

The Dan 09.03.2009 12:48 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCSjK2gzxBE

Listen at 3:08 minutes in.

Ryu James 09.03.2009 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dan (Post 317991)

dude, those drivers are f***ing amazing! they take every corner as tight as possible and perfect every time. that is probably the best video i have seen that displays the skill of the pros. all the other vids i have seen it is hard to tell if they are any better than the average club racer.

so what did he say at 3:08? how many volts are they running on? and the are a "tad quicker" than what?

Ryu James 09.03.2009 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 317977)
My pack (4s 500mah) took a little over 2500mah after an 11 minute run. seems about right.

ryan, did you get my last email?

yeah got your email. just sent reply. started on reply yesterday and got interrupted.

zeropointbug 09.03.2009 01:08 PM

That's a beauty track, I would love to be on that surface for a day!

James, I think he says "just a tad faster than the ICE buggies..." ICE = internal combustion engine. :smile:


Aqwut, NO, nahuh! lol I am not sure whether they just suck or I am that much better, but I do know that on practise sessions I was passing lot's of buggies and truggies and they couldn't keep up. I had the suspension very low, P-3 rockers in rear, the rear skid was almost dragging when on power, crimefighter LPR's, handled wicked anyways. Should gain an even gibber lead once I lower the CoG of it, check my thread on it...

zeropointbug 09.03.2009 01:11 PM

Oh, and James, which model Hyperion charger do you have?

If you have one of the fairly newer units, then all you do is push mode ONCE after the charge has ended, that will bring you to the other screen that tells you mah put into the pack.

kalbien 09.04.2009 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 318069)
If you have one of the fairly newer units, then all you do is push mode ONCE after the charge has ended, that will bring you to the other screen that tells you mah put into the pack.

if you have one oof the older ones you push that button that you change battery type before charging....


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