Brandon,
I merely offered my observations on your offering - I didn't bash your mount, nor will I(unlike your jabs at mine). I wish you good luck. How exactly did I contradict myself, though? I didn't compare your mount to anything made in China, mass produced or cast. My motor mounts are cnc machined right here in the USA and always have been. I simply made an observation in relation to my own offering. And why would I try your motor mount? - I created an original design that happens to work extremely well and is proven over time. My philosophy is to innovate, not duplicate - note that my mounts are the original (and still the best). I simply created an innovative and new product idea, produced it and brought it to market. I then continued to develop that same idea and product for several years. I didn't disrespect anyone along the way. I didn't didn't promote my stuff on any competitors site(there were none initially, but I still haven't done so).

I approved Linerv's account the day he signed up - he simply hasn't posted(maybe the approval was caught in a spam filter or something - I don't know). I also emailed him several times and posted on RCTech regarding the bent mount. It happens, Brandon. When you get a few thousand motor mounts sold and in service for a few years(if you do), you will experience a few failures - the failure rate on mine is far less than 1% and I replace bent or broken mounts for 1/2 price - I wish you luck in achieving the same success. I believe in my own product, as you do in yours.

And I deleted your threads here(and I didn't think it was funny) - and if you continue promoting your directly competing products ON MY SITE, I will delete your account. I explained this over several PMs to you when it happened, but you somehow can't understand my stance? It is called respect and common sense. I haven't disrespected you, so please don't disrespect me(especially on my own site). This includes trying to drum up sales here - it is akin to me setting up a shopping cart on your site. Pretty sure any manufacturer will feel the same way - particularly when you are attempting to enter the market with offerings that are directly competing with mine. This is my site - you are welcome to discuss the hobby here, but I ask that you(and anyone else) remember that this is my site and how I make my living, so be respectful and courteous of this when you are here.

I have spent several years building this business and fueling the brushless 1/8 scale segment of the hobby and created inertia in this segment in many ways. I support the hobby as it is my passion. I work tirelessly to remain innovative and competitive without "selling out" to China or Taiwan. I have continued to develop and offer innovative products for my chosen segment of the hobby(the segment which was developed almost solely by RC-Monster for several years prior to becoming somewhat mainstream). In some ways, I created my own market early on(how many people even had a clue about brushless cars and trucks when I started this site almost 6 years ago or 10+ years ago when I started to use brushless in my gen1 Emaxx?) - this takes a little more salt than entering a growing and established segment with a slightly different version of someone else's established and proven product.

This segment of the hobby has grown tremendously and will continue to grow in the future. Major manufacturers have entered the segment, along with several smaller start-ups like Elite and RC product Designs(one of the early comers into this segment), and "bigger budget" entities like Novak, Castle Creations and Tekno, etc. As the market grows and competition sprouts up, the products continue to evolve and prices come down. Welcome aboard, Brandon. There is going to be enough business for anyone that can offer a competitive product and service over time. Let your product and service speak for itself and you will be successful. Please be respectful of RC-Monster when you post on this site - you are welcome to use the site as you have in the past and likely still do for information and expertise, but you are not authorized to use my site to promote your new business venture. :)

Brandon i was not knocking your particular product as i have never had one in hand,but honestly dont see how your design "cam locks" into place, i see a pair of screws on top instead of one, and i dont like how you use statement "I had sponsored drivers use my product" whoop-de-doo trust me having a sponsored driver run your product does not give you good durability testing..... they are smooth and experienced drivers generally, they arent out there flat landing or nose diving huge jumps every other lap...

besides i thought it was distasteful on your part from the begining to "advertise" your products on here, you got your yourself a cad program and drew up some "slightly different" mounts from those already out and then made them for other brands of cars, you have your parts made by a machinist, well guess what, mike is a machinist and has much more knowledge on designs and how things are made than you do. I think your poking your stick in the wrong fire over here.

we werent condemning whitrzac for using your mount, but i didnt under stand why he would pay a silly high price for your mount over mike's and then get those cheapo novak trays


sorry for cluttering your thread whitrzac do you have any updates on your buggy, pics would be nice.

Generally not a good idea to call the site owner an idiot... Just a bit of friendly advice for you:rules:

I understand the desire to try something different, I did the same thing with lipos (and will continue) as it was better in my mind to have 1st hand experience.

I have to side with Mike on the "business ethics" discussed in his previous post. Plus, this is his site, and what he says goes. You always defer to the guy paying the bills, that is how life works!

I am sure the elite mount is nicely made, and will hold the motor in place and hopefully keep the mesh consistent under a range of use common to rc driving. If it is more expensive than a rcm mount, I see no reason to use it. That is just me, if both items perform the given task, the cheaper one is a better purchase.

As for bringing up some other user's issues from another forum and attempting to belittle your competition over their "purported" actions toward said person, well that is dick. You are showing yourself up Brandon, not a good idea. Let other people deal with their own business, trying to stir the pot in order to make yourself look better is never productive. Trust me on this, I am far from perfect and own my own highly competitive business (auto body repair), and I have made these mistakes. Nothing positive is ever gained trying to make your competition look bad. Just do right by your customers and they will refer you and your business will grow.

Hi Mike, I didn't mean to stir trouble..I have never trash talked nor made any comments to you here nor any other forum until yesterday.. It's really pointless to express what I think cause obviously whatever I type hear right or wrong it will be viewed as WRONG by you or your users.. Like Lincpimp said "you're the Boss"
Whitrzac is right, no point going back & forth like idiots, but I can't sit there & read how you describe my mount as a Losi kockoff. I don't think you would like it if tables were turned, but it's your forum so It's my fault for even trying..
If you say my product is a good knockoff and yours is superior then that's what it is, end of discussion.
I will personally apologize to everyone who I have offended.


Thank you for those who have supported me..

Brandon

Guys is it really worth the aggrovation to get at eachothers throat.


I have used an rc-monster mount, Not the elite rc.


To be honest I bent the crap out of my mount, it was my fault i might ad... off a 6 foot kicker ramp strait up. and strait down nose first.... Broke A-arm, body mount, bent a chassis ETC


Not the MFG's fault.

This isnt a Flame thread.
Brandon, dont take me wrong I may not know the whole story- but isnt mike being very kind to allow you to post and advertise your product- which is a direct competitor to him?

Thats love of the hobby! (try that on traxxas or MA forums and see what happens)

Mike respects you enough to let you post your work on his site. and brandon respects mike and knows the best place on the web to post it.


You both are innovators of the hobby- dont interfere with each other.


No offense to either of you but your both driving in the same direction, dont fight for elbow room on the center armrest.

If you catch my drift.

-Ben

Hi Ben,

Actually I think you must've misread Mike's post, I can't post anything regarding my product. I wish he was that considerate, I mean Tekno & RC-product have threads here, maybe because I'm Chinese :lol: JK.
If tables were turned & when I get my own forum up & running Mike & others are free to come and talk, share about their products or ideas all they want..

Everyone here on this forum are good people, they're knowledgeable and love this hobby, that's why I chose to talk about my designs and builds cause I respect RC-monster as the leading place to be in 1/8 electric, but some see my intentions differently, they seem to think I want to steal business away..so I respect their wishes & have never posted since... I would love to show off my work, but I can't..

Well Thank you anyways for your insight..

Brandon

now that it seem that you 2 are done fighting....:slap:




I plan on making a chassis from 3mm alloy before I atempt a CF one...

the chassis will be ~3mm longer in the rear, and I will do away with the stock mudgaurds and just run alloy alltheway out to the body.

there's only 71mm between the motor mount and bellcranks:gasp::neutral:the way it looks is that the tekin motors are outa the runing:cry:

motors that I know will fit
NEU 1512/1509 60mm/53
medusa 60mm


hackjob layout pics...
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...8/IMG_0491.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...8/IMG_0489.jpg

after get low on $$ the buggy was placed in a drawer and forgotten about for months...


now a simi local track is geting an indoor 1/8 track for winter:yipi: rules state that it has to be <1900kv, and 4s HARDCASE limit...

neu 1509 2y is on its way
mike should have an 808 chassis kit, soon:neutral:
that leaves me with geting a bat...


needs to be light, 2x2s, or 4s able to make 15min on a 100x50ish track the celing is only 10-15ft up so there wont be any big jumps, and the dirt should be rock hard 3wks in...

would it be possible to make 15ish with a 4000mah?

TP makes a 4s 4200 hardcase pack that better than any other 4s hardcase i have seen. very stout packs. 15 mins should be very easy to get on a hard pack indoor track.

$200... ouch....


http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...C-148V-4200mAh


edit, $180 isn't tooo bad, does anyone have info on how much the pack wights?

they are not light, well over 500 grams but i dont have an exact weight.

cf chassis ordered:party:

after seeing the track layout, I decided to go with a tekin 1400
still looking for a good deal on a TP 4s 4200 hardcase....
http://www.rcshortcourse.com/forum/s...&postcount=120


http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/IMG_0715.jpg
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/IMG_0714.jpg
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/IMG_0713.jpg
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/MattSunderlage/IMG_0712.jpg

http://www.rcshortcourse.com/forum/s...&postcount=120

Super Lightweight 1/8th scale buggy.
 

I'm very interested, how is your project going? what do you have so far? and how much do you weigh in at?

I'm running the Hyper 9E with Complete Matrix Concepts Inc Carbon Fiber Chassis, Shock Towers, Radio Tray, Center diff-Top Plate, Rear Chassis Brace, and Ackerman arm. The chassis alone is almost 1/2 the weight of the stock metal chassis, has more flex than the stock metal chassis, and is quite strong as well. Robert of Matrix Concepts has been making carbon fiber chassis for the Losi 8ight Buggies and Trugies for just over four years now, and not one chassis has broke. I've not weighed my buggy yet, but it's quite light. Light enough to run the 1409 1Y motor and not get hot. The motor did break because the magnet was defective, Steve Neu is fixing it as we speak. The motor runs between 125 to 151 degrees. and I've been using the Mamba Monster Speed Control. Though I just purchased the Mamba Max Pro ESC which will also bring weight down, as well. Please let me know how this project is doing. Pictures and such would be very interesting to see as well. In fact, I have many pictures of my carbon fiber Hyper 9e, if you would like to see them, please let me know and I can post them up. Have a great day, and I'm looking forward to hearing how this project is doing :)

I still don't have a battery, but the chassis and motor should be here this week.

I decided to go with a tekin 1400kv over a 15/1409 because the track is a tight indoor track, and I will need the smoothness of the sensors...

Mamba Max Pro ESC, Sensored.
 

Sounds great. Thank you for the update. Will you be using the Mamba Max Pro sensored ESC? have you considered using all aluminum screws to help bring the weight down? I'm going to go with all aluminum screws and if any break, I'll replace those with a stronger material screw.