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V0RT3X 01.08.2010 05:56 PM

Don't know, probably the ballooned radius was too small and it didn't provide enough punch, I couldn't do backflips on the skate ramps and diving/lifting sucked too. No problems with the stock Talons though.

_dV 01.25.2010 06:55 AM

Update on how the HPI GT S tires, HPI firm foam, JConcepts Rulux 1/2 offset half ups combo went.
I have about 8-9 runs up on this combo so far and im pretty impressed. I've driven on various dirt surfaces, skate parks, skate bowls, grass. This was mostly bashing, some jumping and even some track racing(:lol:). They have held up really well, lotsa grip, very little lateral tyre roll, enough cushioning for landing high jumps and cartwheels. Strapping tape is also holding up so far(probably because i only vented the wheels). Gluing is also still holding which i'm happy about as it was my first effort.

If a manufacturer starting making a 'medium' profile tyre to suit a 3.7 inch wheel that had built in belting and was a little lighter than the GT S i would love it

JERRY2KONE 01.25.2010 07:57 AM

Just some info.
 
Just an added trick that really helps with handling issues. After putting all of that work into putting your wheels and tires together you might want to balance your wheels for better performance. If your wheels are out of balance even just a little bit it can cause allot of vibration, which slows your top speed down quite abit, and also retards your accelleration. Once you test the difference between a set of balanced wheels and an unbalanced wheels the results are amazing. It really does help even if your just bashing. Unbalanced wheels take more effort from your drivetrain and powerplant, which shortens your run times and affects your overall handling. Not to mention shortens the life of your bearings. Just my 2cents. Good luck with that.

JERRY2KONE 01.25.2010 08:07 AM

Check it out
 
check this thread out. It is about taping, balancing, beadlocks, or gluing.

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...highlight=GLUE

_dV 01.25.2010 09:08 AM

The wheels are balanced, although it's with blutac atm. Suprisingly it hasn't come off once. Certainly makes the truck run smoother at speed.

If i remember the largest blutac chunk was 11gm and the smallest was 6gm. The 11 gm one is reasonably large and you can see it easily through the wheel but once it gets dirty you don't even notice it all while driving.

I was trying to devise a way to double sided tape a plastic cable holder to the inside of the wheel and then put various small lead sinker weights inside it. Just seemed too dangerous though even if i glued them in so i have just stuck with the blutac.

JERRY2KONE 01.25.2010 10:00 AM

Weights
 
I just use modeling weights with double sticky tape, and then once I have a full set of wheels properly balanced I use the hot glue gun to make sure they will not come undone. Yea they do run allot smoother balanced for sure at higher speeds. Once you do the first set the process becomes fairly easy to do.

_dV 01.25.2010 10:13 AM

'modeling weights'? have they ever come loose with the hot glue?

JERRY2KONE 01.25.2010 10:42 AM

Nope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by _dV (Post 345809)
'modeling weights'? have they ever come loose with the hot glue?

No the hot glue sticks very well on the plastic rims. Plus remember that the weight also has double sticky tape under it. No way it is comming loose. Hobby wieghts like the ones that are used in the pinewood derby cars. I have different weights from a few manufacturers that are 3gms to 7 gms. They work pretty well for doing wheel balancing. I use a dubro prop balancer, but had to mount it on one of my truck stands, because it was not wide enough for MT wheels. Plus I had to make up my own custom balancing shaft using a 17mm adapter for the Maximizer wheels. Like I said it is a bit of work getting it setup, but once you do the first set it is easy from there on. I have balanced a half dozens sets of wheels now.

Bondonutz 01.25.2010 01:00 PM

I balance all my tires also, I found the lead weights work very well and I secure them w/Med CA and accelerator.
Heres the balancer I have, zero set up needed. It's for 17mm hubbed rims but I can also do all my 23mm rims. I do this by adding some 1/4" tape around the hub to bulk it up for the 23mm rims .

http://www.redrc.net/2007/10/ultimat...tire-balancer/

_dV 01.25.2010 07:12 PM

Weights like these? They seem like a nice solution. They look thin enough that you could hack them in half or quarters to get the weight you want.

Bondonutz: Did you use the double sided or just CA the weight directly to the rim? accelerator?

JERRY2KONE 01.25.2010 07:58 PM

Yes!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by _dV (Post 345891)
Weights like these? They seem like a nice solution. They look thin enough that you could hack them in half or quarters to get the weight you want.

Yes those are the weights. If you look deeper you can find some others that come in different weight as well, which will make it possible to combine in various percentages to achieve your goal. I have never had to cut a weight to get the desired results of smooth rotation without any lundging or ocillation.

Bondonutz: Did you use the double sided or just CA the weight directly to the rim? accelerator?

The only issue with CA glue is that it becomes brittle after it hardens/sets up, which will make it suseptable to cracking and comming apart during stress. The double sticky tape works very well, and if you hot glue over it, then trust me it will not come loose.

Bondonutz 01.25.2010 09:06 PM

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I cut the size weight I need for a perfect balanced tire and stick it on w/the supplied 2 sided tape. Then ooze some Med CA around the weight and spritz w/the kicker. Too much CA will throw offf balance so be careful.

Buggy wheels will take only a little pieice of lead where as the big Ol' MT tires might take a 1/4oz or more

NOT argueing about the CA getting brittle, but I have some tires I balanced over 3-4 yrs ago and are still sticking like gangbusters ?

JERRY2KONE 01.26.2010 01:25 AM

Got ya.
 
We got ya man. I thought from reading your earlier post that you were just using CA glue by itself. The double sticky tape really does hold the weight on without help, but using another adhesive over it gives that extra measure of satisfaction regardless of what you are using. I just like to use the hotglue because it is somewhat flexible and can take allot of punishment and abuse. I have only used the CA glue for gluing the tires to the rims(in the past), and have noticed that it does not hold up well. Creating the need to reglue or even remove and clean off the glue for re-application. Thats why I only use the beadlock wheels now. Initial setup is somewhat teatious, but worth every minute to me. I do not race so the added weight is not that much of an issue with the power of batteries and such now-a-days. If you balance your wheels correctly things roll without much problem anyway as long as your setup is up to the challenge.


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