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Jahay 05.10.2010 07:41 PM

Got a vid up... had a few problems with the pinion staying on, but the red loctite is holding it in place now...

My ESC, Lipo and motor temps are 50degrees c and below!!! Great temps... i was thinking about increasing the gearing but i am very happy with it... I will extract more speed by using an 8s for speed runs on the road. Cant decide on what ESC to get...???

http://s878.photobucket.com/albums/a...rent=001-2.flv

suicideneil 05.10.2010 09:51 PM

122*F, those are great temps for sure. Looks to have plenty of power and is nice and sharp on the steering, I think you got that setup pretty damn well. As for a future HV esc, I still say wait for the Castle one to come out, shouldnt be too long now- cant beat having proper brakes and reverse..

Jahay 05.11.2010 08:27 AM

Thanks a lot neil!
Its running nicely... i may lower it a little bit more so it handles a little better when im not jumping... Going out now to see if it can handle air with the extended chassis...

Im in no rush just yet to go 8s but i will want to within the next month or so... So ill be patient and see what escs come out. I dont need reverse or motor brakes as my mechanical brakes are so much better and user friendly.

Vids coming this afternoon :)

Jahay 05.11.2010 07:39 PM

i wasnt even thinking of driving the car today as it kept on raining on and off but as it was in the boot of the car and a full set of batteries, why the *censored* not...

Ive only run flat grass to make sure it was all put together before trying something a little more stupid...

Short vid of jumping on tall grass, mind the driving, still getting used to it in the air.... I also took it out one more tonight on some gravel and dirt... too dark to get videos, but its 100X better and way more fun on these surfaces. Just need to find more areas which are disused...

Will be updated with vids frequently when i can find better bashing spots.
Thought i would also mention that temperatures are still cool to very cool... averaging 30-50degrees c...

No damage was caused in the most recent videos...

But after running this evening, i blew one of my dirt claws on grass whilst the truck was driving on two wheels... So frustrating!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXsXbNZXwSI

and my first vid of the car running now on youtube... better than photobucket...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MsiR0mF2oc

Kcaz25 05.11.2010 10:36 PM

Its got TONS of zip! Its flying instantly! The temps sound great, sorry about the ripped tire! I would wait for the castle HV like Neil said.

Jahay 05.12.2010 05:48 AM

im looking forward to the castle HV... do we know when its going to be around? Is this HV specific for cars? its not like their plane or boat ones?

andreazinno 05.12.2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 362222)
As i only did a short run and didnt record temps ill have to check next run. Didnt want to run any longer not knowing the temps....

I did notice that the fan was on quite a lot of the time on the esc, but many people say that theirs is on. Im very tempted to work out a way of installing my own custom fans which remain on at all times.

Thanks for the info neil! ill use that as a general rule of thumb...

40mph is a little slow... My exact gearing is shown below... I was easily hitting 50-60 on short grass today!!! It was just as fast if not faster than my standard flux with the torq2200 i may gear it down to a 17t clutch bell.

Differential Ratio: 3.2222222222222223
Transmission Ratio: 1.5366847826086956
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 44
Pinion Tooth Count: 21
Total Voltage: 25.2
Motor KV: 1600
Tire Diameter (inches): 5.5
Tire Ballooning (inches): 0.5
Motor Current Draw: 0
Motor Coil Resistance: 0
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.1 : 1
Total Ratio: 10.37465 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 20.42 inches (518.68 mm)
Rollout: 1.97:1
Total Motor Speed: 40320 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 75.15 mph (120.72 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 1600
KT constant: 0.85 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Power: Amperage not specified...

Hi, are You sure the values are correct ?

With Savage flux, bulletproof diff 9/29, 44 spur and 21 pinion, the total ratio is 14.95606 : 1, not 10.37465 : 1 (definitely too high).

Specifically:

- pinion-to-spur (44/21) = 2.09
- first tranny reduction (44/18) = 2.44
- second tranny reduction (29/32) = 0.91

- total = 14.95606

Bye.

Jahay 05.12.2010 11:11 AM

im not running 44/21 anymore... im running 47/18... top speed is 53mph and after 20mins of hard bashing im getting temps of 100-120max

andreazinno 05.12.2010 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 364097)
im not running 44/21 anymore... im running 47/18... top speed is 53mph and after 20mins of hard bashing im getting temps of 100-120max

I see, but the problem is that the error seems to be in the gears ratio coming out from tranny-to-diff, not that of pinion-to-spur.

Using the Top Speed Calculator with 47/18, You get a max speed of 36.85 mph (a bit more if You assume Lipo at max charge of 4.2 volts per cell), not 53mph.

Bye.

Jahay 05.12.2010 11:22 AM

awww. but you have probably forgotten to take into account tht i am using the flux high speed idler which essentially locks the tranny in second gear... Instead of using the savage flux tranny use the savage x 2nd gear

andreazinno 05.12.2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 364103)
awww. but you have probably forgotten to take into account tht i am using the flux high speed idler which essentially locks the tranny in second gear... Instead of using the savage flux tranny use the savage x 2nd gear

Oops....I missed the point :angel:

suicideneil 05.12.2010 06:07 PM

The Castle HV controller will be car- specific ( or truck I suppose ), and will have brakes and reverse. If you really arent worried about that, then I'd say pickup one of their current ICE HV controllers, or for a cheaper option their is that hobbyking 200amp monster controller ( and numerous similar boat or plane escs ). The only trouble with alot of those kind of escs is that they wont work with pistol radios without a special adaptor called a 'Pistix'- it converts the throttle signal into something the esc can interpret ( since boats/ planes dont have reverse normally, but a car does, so the signal a pistol radio sends out is different to that of a stick radio ).

Jahay 05.13.2010 04:12 AM

has anyone seen what the new truck specific esc will look like??? maybe they will have a built in cooling fan??? If so i woldnt mind waiting... Are there any pics of them?

Jahay 05.13.2010 07:38 AM

here is a quick run on dirt... I was using my dish rims for this and dirt bonz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh7-wU71z-w

after this vid i caught a bit of air, cartwheeled and stripped m y plastic servo horn, i have an alloy one on there now

Jahay 05.14.2010 11:57 AM

I found some more dirt places to run, and the truck is getting run hard...

Blew anotehr tire yesterday! THIS IS SO ANNOYING!

first my dirt claws now my dirt bonz... so 2 pairs of tires now useless!
Back on stock for the time being... cant decide what new tires to get.

Also has anyone got any tips for keeping dirt and dust out of the esc? im worried about rocks etc getting in there! but i dont want to restrict air flow


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