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Jahay 02.28.2011 12:21 PM

I thought the LST2 Spindle was tough! but the CEN is a beast! im interested to see how this works out! i have come too far with the CEN! I just hope they can handle 9s power ...

The CEN Shafts are just ridiculous! interested to see if a CEN Spindle and CVD work with a LST2 Hub!

mothman 02.28.2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 399481)
I thought the LST2 Spindle was tough! but the CEN is a beast! im interested to see how this works out! i have come too far with the CEN! I just hope they can handle 9s power ...

The CEN Shafts are just ridiculous! interested to see if a CEN Spindle and CVD work with a LST2 Hub!

Yeay Im anxiously waiting for pics and updates from linc. cant stop checking this thread.. lol..

lincpimp 02.28.2011 04:49 PM

Ok, tried the cen knuckle with the lst c hub and a savage arm (as it normally attaches to a savage bulk.

The cvd is too short. Not by much, but it is too short. This fits with the fact the cen arm is slightly shorter than the savvy arm.

Since the cen arm is a direct fit for the savvy I will continue with that. Will need vorza diff output cups, so I will order them today. Might also snag up the required cen hingepins to mount the c hub to the cen arms. I am also looking into a way to use the cen upper arm.

I will get some pics up in a few.

lincpimp 02.28.2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aqwut (Post 399478)
That's Awesome linc. Those CVD's seem to be the only thing that could handle my setups. I remember in my maxs days, I paid about $100 for RCalloys to make me 10mm Stainless CVDs. Great Job man!..

Thanks Aqwut, I did get this idea from another guy, but figured I could put my own spin on it!

thzero 02.28.2011 09:08 PM

Maybe just get a CEN truck instead? ;)

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 399505)
Ok, tried the cen knuckle with the lst c hub and a savage arm (as it normally attaches to a savage bulk.

The cvd is too short. Not by much, but it is too short. This fits with the fact the cen arm is slightly shorter than the savvy arm.

Since the cen arm is a direct fit for the savvy I will continue with that. Will need vorza diff output cups, so I will order them today. Might also snag up the required cen hingepins to mount the c hub to the cen arms. I am also looking into a way to use the cen upper arm.

I will get some pics up in a few.


lincpimp 02.28.2011 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by thzero (Post 399560)
Maybe just get a CEN truck instead? ;)

Check out my thread in the project x section...

mothman 02.28.2011 11:46 PM

Linc, if you have the time, I would really appreciate if you could post some pics of the savage arm-lst hub and cen spindle..

lincpimp 03.01.2011 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mothman (Post 399581)
Linc, if you have the time, I would really appreciate if you could post some pics of the savage arm-lst hub and cen spindle..

Sure, did not have the camera handy when I mocked it up. With the X diff outputs the shaft is about 3mm too far out. I am not sure if you can get longer diff outputs, that would be what you need to get the cvd end seated in the cup correctly.

I will also post pics of the cen lower arm, with the cen c hub and cen spindle. With the lst diff outputs the cen cvd is in just the right place. The cross pin on the ball end of the cvd will have to be trimmed slightly, but I have high hopes that the vorza diff outputs will be a perfect fit. You can even use the cen inner lower hinge pin to hold the lower arm to the bulk, fits perfectly and is reatined by a nylock nut.

mothman 03.04.2011 10:25 AM

Linc, can you please list down all the parts needed for this cen arms mod? Since Ive already bought the CVDs, I think I have to proceed with this.

And would also appreciate if you could post some pics on the savage arm- lst hub - cen axle carrier mod.

lincpimp 03.04.2011 12:37 PM

Ok here we go:

cen lower arms
cen cvds
cen c hubs w/bolts and spacers
cen knuckles
cen bearings
m3 bolts to hold c hub to arms
savvy ss adj upper arms
vorza diff cups (waiting on them to make sure they fit and work)
spacers/washers to take up slack between savvy upper arm and cen c hub
cen 23mm hexs

Pics:

Note the small spaces on either side of the upper arm, this is where the washers need to go:

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF4882.jpg

Diff output cup in pic is from a lst, but it is too tight in the diff case. The vorza cup looks to be identical but should fit the hpi savvy diff case better.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF4881.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF4880.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF4879.jpg

lincpimp 03.04.2011 12:40 PM

And here is the lst c hub pics. The diff output cup is a stock X cup and it is the longest cup I have seen, and the pics shouw how the cvd is just not long enough.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF4878.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF4877.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF4876.jpg

mothman 03.04.2011 01:00 PM

Thank you very much linc. really appreciate your help. still contemplating whether i should proceed with the cen arm mod. didnt realize its gonna cost quite a bit to get all the required parts. i only have the cvds at the moment.

Jahay 03.04.2011 01:08 PM

hmmm this is a great mod! I would have gone this route, but the availability of CEN parts for me are minimal.
The HPI Sway Bar kit does not work with the CEN Arms...

Otherwise it is so worth doing this just for those shafts!!! LOOK SOLID!

I just hope the LST Shafts are just as strong as the SHD shafts.

mothman 03.04.2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 400067)
hmmm this is a great mod! I would have gone this route, but the availability of CEN parts for me are minimal.
The HPI Sway Bar kit does not work with the CEN Arms...

Otherwise it is so worth doing this just for those shafts!!! LOOK SOLID!

I just hope the LST Shafts are just as strong as the SHD shafts.

If only Savage arm could be used.. I just dont want to waste my Flextec arm.

And Jahay, you can always use bluegroove sway bar. reviews say they are quite good.

Jahay 03.04.2011 03:30 PM

mothman... i would love to buy your flextec arms from you please :)

Im not a fan of the bluegroove sway bar and they wont work with my custom tvps.... i like my HPI sway bar...


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