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BlackedOutREVO 11.03.2008 12:43 AM

Shoot! I wonder if I buy the castle kit, and send in the motor if they will send me a black one?

Im not going to pay crazy prices for the motor, im sure it wouldnt be much more to get a actual NEU.

JThiessen 11.03.2008 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO (Post 228708)
That doesnt help

I want to know how there going to be sold. I want the black motor, not the green one. So is castle making 2 kits by them, or the green castle kit from them, and have traxxas sell the black ones. Or is the motor going to be avalible only by buying the BL e revo?

Or?

:intello:
It does say how they are going to be sold
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Traxxas motors are all black, Castle are black and green
- it just didnt tell you what you wanted to hear!

Unsullied_Spy 11.03.2008 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO (Post 228714)
Shoot! I wonder if I buy the castle kit, and send in the motor if they will send me a black one?

Im not going to pay crazy prices for the motor, im sure it wouldnt be much more to get a actual NEU.

You could try E-Mailing them to see if you could order a Traxxas-style motor separate. It may be possible to order one separate (from Tower, Amain, etc.) but only time will tell.

BlackedOutREVO 11.03.2008 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 228717)
:intello:
It does say how they are going to be sold - it just didnt tell you what you wanted to hear!

Hahahha yeah

Darn. I will shoot CC a email. See what they say about it. I COULD wait for the new E revo, but naw, cant do that:lol::na: LOL

Thanks for the help guys!:mdr:

JThiessen 11.03.2008 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 228718)
You could try E-Mailing them to see if you could order a Traxxas-style motor separate. It may be possible to order one separate (from Tower, Amain, etc.) but only time will tell.

You can purchase all their motors and esc's through authorized Traxxas parts dealers.

But you can also bet that they wont be available until a few months after they start selling the E-Revo's. Cut your loses and buy a Nue right now.

cheesecake 11.03.2008 12:58 AM

im sorry but thats pathetic if you want a black motor just buy a neu and get over it

mikey09120 11.03.2008 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO (Post 228635)
Anyone?

Do we need a new thread?

new thread needed

BlackedOutREVO 11.03.2008 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cheesecake (Post 228723)
im sorry but thats pathetic if you want a black motor just buy a neu and get over it

Ummmm ok then

I dont get whats wrong with wanting a black CC neu? Some of us dont have money falling from every direction, and are looking to save a few bucks here and there:no:

hoovhartid 11.03.2008 01:51 AM

maybe I missunderstood, but I got the impression that Patrick meant that the Castle motors will be available in green or black. I figured black would come with the e-revo and green would come with the CC combo, but you will be able to buy the motors in your choice of green or black.
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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 224307)
Traxxas motors are all black, Castle are black and green.


BlackedOutREVO 11.03.2008 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovhartid (Post 228737)
maybe I missunderstood, but I got the impression that Patrick meant that the Castle motors will be available in green or black. I figured black would come with the e-revo and green would come with the CC combo, but you will be able to buy the motors in your choice of green or black.

Ohhh wow. I feel really dumb about now. I misread that. My bad

So that works better.

Thanks!

cheesecake 11.03.2008 03:11 AM

your complaining about the color of the motor........ is it going to sit on a helf an dloo pretty and never get driven probably not so who cares its a motor run it and dont worry about how pretty it is

Sammus 11.03.2008 06:49 AM

If that post isn't accurate, I wouldn't recomend buying a NeuMotor neu just for the colour anyway, the castleneus are much better suited for a car...

And also, you'll probably be able to buy it under traxxas bandname for a markup lol.

BlackedOutREVO 11.03.2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cheesecake (Post 228745)
your complaining about the color of the motor........ is it going to sit on a helf an dloo pretty and never get driven probably not so who cares its a motor run it and dont worry about how pretty it is


Why are you such a nice man? Wow

If you have ever looked at my racers, I put just as much time into wiring them up, and making them look nice as I do setting them up, I have no shelf queens, I was never complaining, when there is two choices, I can buy what ever I need to.

BlackedOutREVO 11.03.2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sammus (Post 228761)
If that post isn't accurate, I wouldn't recomend buying a NeuMotor neu just for the colour anyway, the castleneus are much better suited for a car...

And also, you'll probably be able to buy it under traxxas bandname for a markup lol.

Yeah I agree. I also like the nice long motor wires, so I can have the motor wires go right to the ESC.

Thanks for the help guys. Much appreciated.:mdr:

brushlessboy16 11.03.2008 04:15 PM

Guys, back on topic please...


Its personal preference on what color motor you want... the color has no relation to what type of person, car, etc or how its driven or lack there of.. End it.





Back on topic.. The motor wires are great but when your esc is close to your motor they become a pain and beleive me-they throw up interference if you dont have them twisted... My truck still is only getting 50ft range. =/

hoovhartid 11.03.2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 228841)
My truck still is only getting 50ft range. =/

50 feet?!? that sucks. what Transmitter and receiver are you using?

DRIFT_BUGGY 11.03.2008 04:48 PM

The motor should be red, red goes faster :whistle:

BlackedOutREVO 11.03.2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 228841)
Guys, back on topic please...


Its personal preference on what color motor you want... the color has no relation to what type of person, car, etc or how its driven or lack there of.. End it.





Back on topic.. The motor wires are great but when your esc is close to your motor they become a pain and beleive me-they throw up interference if you dont have them twisted... My truck still is only getting 50ft range. =/



Well I like the length, and then I can always shorten them if I need to

Are you using 2.4 ghtz? I have never had ANY range issues. With any of my BL stuff, especially in something like my Cyclone, everything is jam packed in the car, and the RX is in-between the servo, and esc

BlackedOutREVO 11.03.2008 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 228854)
The motor should be red, red goes faster :whistle:

Right on!:mdr::mdr::mdr:


:party::lol::na:

brushlessboy16 11.03.2008 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovhartid (Post 228850)
50 feet?!? that sucks. what Transmitter and receiver are you using?

Airtronics M8 with 75mhz module
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Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 228854)
The motor should be red, red goes faster :whistle:

No it should have horizontal flames- that makes things go faster.:yes:

Raze ST Truggy 11.03.2008 06:26 PM

I get crappy range with all my BL stuff also, so I'm subscribing to this thread to see is it's my raidio's that suck or if my setup's need some rearanging.

-brian

E-fanatic 11.03.2008 06:49 PM

I had a m8 and got crap range with my brushless set up. So I bought the spektrum system for it when they first came out (alittle better 200ft range max) So the m-11 came out and I bought it but the spectrum system from the m-8 didnt fit. So back to the really bad fm reception. Bought the spectrum system once they mad the board changes to it. With the new one I couldnt get over 100ft or so. Then futaba put out the 3pm 2.4 and now get about 1000ft of range wit no issues ever. My neighbor has a dx2 spectktrum and my brother has the dx3.0 and my futaba has twice the range of them.

mikey09120 11.03.2008 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 228841)

Back on topic.. The motor wires are great but when your esc is close to your motor they become a pain and beleive me-they throw up interference if you dont have them twisted... My truck still is only getting 50ft range. =/

wait... twisting the motor wires limits interference?
did i misunderstand?:oh:

BrianG 11.03.2008 11:16 PM

No, you read right. It's common knowledge (or maybe not?) that twisting wires so they intersect as close to 90* as possible helps reduce noise. If the wires are kept short, noise is minimized (and would be hard to twist anyway). Personally, using a 2.4GHz radio along with keeping the antenna away from high current wires is plenty.

mikey09120 11.03.2008 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 228977)
No, you read right. It's common knowledge (or maybe not?) that twisting wires so they intersect as close to 90* as possible helps reduce noise. If the wires are kept short, noise is minimized (and would be hard to twist anyway). Personally, using a 2.4GHz radio along with keeping the antenna away from high current wires is plenty.

would braiding the three work? :neutral:

BrianG 11.03.2008 11:32 PM

Depends. How long are the wires? If they are so long you can braid them, then they really should be shortened IMO. I've never braided/twisted the motor wires and I have as much range as I can effectively see.

mikey09120 11.04.2008 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 228991)
Depends. How long are the wires? If they are so long you can braid them, then they really should be shortened IMO. I've never braided/twisted the motor wires and I have as much range as I can effectively see.

like as long as in the 4th picture of the very first post in this thread

BrianG 11.04.2008 02:17 AM

This one?

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...1008082231.jpg

Eh, might help a little I guess. Most of the time, twisting wires is done for long runs to either reduce noise being emitted from the wires, or more commonly, to reduce noise being induced into low-voltage/high input impedance wires (think audio).

I think the problem with that pic isn't whether or not you twist the wires, it's the placement of the antenna. For one thing, it is running parallel to the motor wires (albiet a few inches away). It would be better to mount the rx in the rear instead to get more distance from those motor wires. Twisting is probably helping, but still not ideal. For another, that's either an AM or FM radio (judging by the length). AM is really susceptible to interference, and FM is a bit better, but not perfect. AM usually is affected by glitchy operation, whereas FM usually just gets washed out by the noise and has limited range.

Unsullied_Spy 11.04.2008 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 229046)
I think the problem with that pic isn't whether or not you twist the wires, it's the placement of the antenna. For one thing, it is running parallel to the motor wires (albiet a few inches away). It would be better to mount the rx in the rear instead to get more distance from those motor wires. Twisting is probably helping, but still not ideal. For another, that's either an AM or FM radio (judging by the length). AM is really susceptible to interference, and FM is a bit better, but not perfect. AM usually is affected by glitchy operation, whereas FM usually just gets washed out by the noise and has limited range.

+1, my Spektrum used to glitch terribly until I moved the Rx and antenna away. It only takes a few inches and it makes all the difference. I can drive my RCs so far away I can't see them anymore and still get reception.

lincpimp 11.04.2008 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 229048)
It only takes a few inches and it makes all the difference.


Taken out of context this is quite funny:whistle:

Unsullied_Spy 11.04.2008 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 229055)
Taken out of context this is quite funny:whistle:

:lol: Gotta make sure your antenna isn't too short, that could cause issues as well :na:

lincpimp 11.04.2008 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 229057)
:lol: Gotta make sure your antenna isn't too short, that could cause issues as well :na:

Isn't that the truth!! Some people are never happy, no matter what, just keep telling yourself that...

brushlessboy16 11.04.2008 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey09120 (Post 228972)
wait... twisting the motor wires limits interference?
did i misunderstand?:oh:

Motor wires are 7 1/2in long.. i tried braiding them- no avail, i even moved the speed controller to the rear chassis brace, no difference. receiver is on the front brace- as far away as humanyl possible from the noise

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 228977)
No, you read right. It's common knowledge (or maybe not?) that twisting wires so they intersect as close to 90* as possible helps reduce noise. If the wires are kept short, noise is minimized (and would be hard to twist anyway). Personally, using a 2.4GHz radio along with keeping the antenna away from high current wires is plenty.

do they have to be at 90 degree angles?
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Originally Posted by mikey09120 (Post 228984)
would braiding the three work? :neutral:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 228991)
Depends. How long are the wires? If they are so long you can braid them, then they really should be shortened IMO. I've never braided/twisted the motor wires and I have as much range as I can effectively see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey09120 (Post 229044)
like as long as in the 4th picture of the very first post in this thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 229059)
Isn't that the truth!! Some people are never happy, no matter what, just keep telling yourself that...

:lol: beleive me its sticking strait up and as high up as possible:na:



Would haveing the aluminum antenna mount hard mounted to the aluminum chassis affect anything?

brushlessboy16 11.04.2008 07:38 AM

The antenna has since been moved to the main chassis right next to the left bellcrank.. i thought that would help but it didnt.

E-fanatic 11.04.2008 07:52 AM

I run alot of IT and communication wires and let me tell you that a twisted pair wire helps geatly with reducing noise. There are a few system that will not work if the wires are not twisted b/c of the excesss noise.

I wonder if you put a sheilded tube over you high current wires if that would help to? I bet raping your wire would help keep it clean.

brushlessboy16 11.04.2008 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by E-fanatic (Post 229089)
I bet raping your wire would help keep it clean.


Now that is news to me:yes::rofl:


But anyways, im thinking of moving the speed controll to behind the motor and shortening the wires.. is too short a bad thing?

BlackedOutREVO 11.04.2008 11:06 AM

I run Futaba FASST 2.4, and it never glitches. I had a few issues with speky, but it wasnt horrible, but the Futaba system is great

I agree the motor wires are to long, but thats great, so we ccan cut them to what ever length we need, and make out wiring nice and neat, with out having to have another set of wires coming from the speedo

E-fanatic 11.04.2008 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 229092)
is too short a bad thing?


Do you really have to ask that :whistle:


BlackedOutREVO, That futaba fasst system is second to none. I couldnt be happier with mine. I will never buy a spektrum again!

I just with castle would hurry up with there system so I can run my truck!!

RBMike 11.04.2008 05:05 PM

I ran the old Spektrum (in an M8) & am running the DX3R now and do not have range or glitching issues. (As long as the BEC is good. If you have a dodgy bec that does not put out clean DC, you could have glitches. that's what Spektrum sells the cap for.)

brushlessboy16 11.04.2008 05:37 PM

Question to Castle
 
Can I shorten the motor leads?


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